Healthcare...One Slimy Can of Worms...

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   BrianFanslauposted 16 years ago

   Politics are confusing. I'm only 22. I have much to learn but I've run 5 different successful businesses so far and the principal of government run healthcare versus private health care just won't last. I know there are facts and figures to support me on this but it is a very unpopular opinion to have in forums and often like this it is buried quickly. Fox may be conservative in their views but what about Jon Stossel or Barbra Walters or the ABC Morning Crew? we rarely hear so much as a peep about their political stances because people choose not to report the obvious Left Wingers because they are popular in their ring of networks.
   
   Sean Hannity whether for or against him like Rush Limbaugh has one of the highest rated shows in radio and television history. Someone is watching them. Maybe many more someones than the main stream media can silence. We will see I'm not to worried the truth always comes to the surface.
   
   Our own president is back on the campaign trail to convince us of his healthcare policies. He is losing his credibility with the people he swung to vote for him and soon will be nothing more than another Lame duck Bush.
   
   If you want to see why in a statistical sense go here to this guys youtube channel he was asked to come to congress to speak but as of now is barred by Democrats.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFV5Tx4LxBM
   
   Note--- I decided it should have its own thread since it was being discussed in a off topic forum.

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   SweetiePieposted 16 years ago

   Like I said on the other thread it is still too early to tell who will be elected in 2012.  Swing voters usually do not fall along definitive party lines, so your feelings for Obama and his policies have much to do with this.  Obama still does have a large majority of support in the US, even if a large number of Americans are against nationalized health care.  There is a difference between these two factors.

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   BrianFanslauposted 16 years ago

   I said earlier that the GENERAL poll of support for Obama is 35%
   This is for his OVERALL approval.

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   SweetiePieposted 16 years ago

   Actually gallup.com shows Obama has a 55% approval rating:
   
   http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

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      nicompposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      You disprove your own point. That is hardly a large majority of anything.

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   BrianFanslauposted 16 years ago

   Yes I see the Gallup Polls but they in steady decline since his election. I'm considering creating a hub for this topic but idk yet

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   SweetiePieposted 16 years ago

   Actually Obama's approval rating is actually higher than other presidents around the sixth month mark.  His approval rating has slipped since he took office, but this is the same with many presidents. 
   
   http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington … racker.htm
   
   Gallup also shows that while Obama may have had a lower early August approval rating than say Jimmy Carter and Ronald Regan did around the same time period, but interestingly his approval rating is one percentage higher than Bush's was.  Clinton on the other hand had the lowest approval rating for the same time period, and George H.W. Bush had the highest.
   
   http://www.gallup.com/poll/122012/Obama … Up-56.aspx

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   BrianFanslauposted 16 years ago

   Regardless it is still declining. Not to go head to head this thread is pretty much dead

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   jaynap01posted 16 years ago

   Guys.
   
   "The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 32% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve"
   
   http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … cking_poll
   
   Bush has a 29% when he left office, Emperor O already has a 32.
   
   "39% Blame Obama Policies for Bad Economy" http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … ad_economy
   
   "42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan" http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … to_new_low
   
   "54% Say Passing No Healthcare Reform Better Than Passing Congressional Plan" http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … ional_plan
   
   
   
   
   
   READ the Bill before you support it, because if you did you WOULDNT.

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   Dolores Monetposted 16 years ago

   The important thing to remember about health care in America is that it is a for profit commodity. You can make a lot of money on sick people!

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