Hub score bombed 50% in one day

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   Appletreedealsposted 14 years ago

   Wow! Hubpage score dropped 50% in one day! Down to 38. Is there a way this can happen other than readers rating it down?
   
   If you could take a sec to peruse this hub I would really appreciate it.
   
   Would love to make corrections if I knew what was wrong.
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Affiliate-Marke … ners-Guide
   
   ps. is there a way to see visitor ratings?
   
   Thanks

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      Pacal Votanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      no way to see visitor ratings, but this has nothing to do with it
      1. visitor rating doesn't have a huge impact on hubscore
      2. visitors don't rate down
      
      apart from that, you are a genius... I've never seen anything like this.

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         Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         ......"apart from that, you are a genius... I've never seen anything like this."
         
         Pacal - Thanks for the comment, I think. Yes, there is a "down" button next to the "rate it" option, so Imma (my aunt) thinking that you can leave a down rating. ???????/
         
         as for your ending comment...????? sarcasim (sp?) is hard to detect in text communications, but sometimes you have to apply the "duck theory"
         
         But I appreciate the effort.

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            Pacal Votanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            None of that kind, Appletreedeals. You misunderstood me.

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               Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Then thanks for the Kind comment. And taking the time to respond.

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      AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would say to many links to google adwords and you truly need some pics that reflect your hub but besides that it appears to be quite thorough Title needs to be tweeked.

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         Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Darn! I just went in and added those Google links, AFTER THE SCORE DROP, hoping they would Help. maybe they should come out if they already draw negative impressions.
         
         as for the pics... I thought they were related to direction of the module content, ie. what the step being discussed was. That is certainly something I will revisit.
         
         Title tweek? Wish I had a clue... but I will look at that too.
         
         ps. there was no sarcasm intended in this reply. I do appreciate your response and will follow through. Thanks

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   I see 3 self-promotional links. Limit is two.
   
   Your title is misleading linkbait.
   
   This really isn't what hubpages is about. The reason hubs get such good traffic is that the rules really discourage putting that many affiliate or self-promotional links. No matter what the other quality of the remaining hub is.
   
   Hubpages is about making money on your hubs. Not sending the traffic elsewhere. And if you follow the rules, you will make money here.

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      fortunerepposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What is considered a self promotional link?  Is linking to your other hubs self promotional?

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      Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Wow Nelle! Please may I use the pun? Please? Whoa Nellie!
      The following is intended as sincere response to your comment, not a combative tirade. So please read it that way.
      
      The Mis-leading title? I don't think so... but I am willing to be convinced.
      "Affiliate Marketing - How to pick your product niche, a beginner's guide"
      
      That is the entire focus of the hub, picking an affiliate product niche to begin your affiliate marketing. with all content purposely directed at a non-experienced affiliate marketer.
      
      So I'm completely baffled as to why you think it's mis-leading.
      
      As for it being link-bait... again I'm baffled, what's wrong with being smart about the title keywords you use? as long as they are appropriate to the content.
      
      And again.. I'm willing to examine evidence I'm totally wrong.
      
      ...about the self-promotional links.
      There are 4 promotional links
      one is a perfectly legit link to another hub that IS relative to subject hub's content
      two of the remaining three are self-promotional, but again they are very relative to the subject hub's content, and I feel both are positive contributions to the hub subject, even if they are self-promotion, and they are two different link destinations
      the forth and final link IS very self-promotional, but is also placed at the very end of the hub content in a module that is very plainly labeled, "Shameless Self-promotion" Perhaps I do owe a "mia culpa" for that one, but I would still need convincing.
      
      Also I believe Hubpages rule/guideline limiting content to 2 self-promotional links refers more to the multiple use of THE SAME self-promotional link, not total links, but I'm less sure of this point so I wouldn't "bet the house" on being right here.
      But I did take pains to ensure none of the links were duplicates. Even though I would/could benefit from the links, I tried to ensure thay were relative to content.
      
      And lastly... I am well aware of the intent of hubpages, because I certainly went awry in my first efforts, and have been trying to be an upstanding hubber since then. Perhaps you could peruse my "horrible Hubpages...etc.." hub to see what I mean
      
      I's sorry for such a lengthy response, I do appreciate your effort to offer a response, but unfortunately your response hit a "raw spot". I do hope to hear more from you.
      
      Gregory

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   tony0724posted 14 years ago

   First thing ,do not take this so serious It Is not a life and death matter . Just enjoy writing . Second do not place your self worth on your hubscore . I stink and I still loiter on this site !

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      AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are so silly!!! I agree with you Tony we only have to relax.

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      Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the response Tony, I do like it here on Hubpages, but I would like my success here to be multi-directional. I enjoy the writing just for the sake of publishing, but if possible I also want to monetize my efforts.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   He has two affiliate links that are not with hubpages programs and a link to his commercial website. I believe the limit is 2. And the limit is two to the same site, throughout all of your hubs.
   
   I'm not sure of the second limit, because I don't use these kinds of links on my hubs. But that's probably the reason for the plumeting scores.

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   jonmarshposted 14 years ago

   I believe you can link to your own and other hubs (on hubpages.com) as much as you like without penalty.

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      Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      But he has/ or had 3 not to hubpages. Limit is 2.

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         jonmarshposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Nelle, I thought it was not more two than two links to the same domain, and even then if it is an authoritative domain (e.g. wikipedia) you could have more.
         
         It looks like he only has one that is really an affiliate link, the others are to his blog and to squidoo. I didn't think that would be a problem, but you are lot more experienced here than I am.

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            Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I really do believe that they are a problem. Linking to a commercial blog is definitely not the same thing as linking to wiki.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   Maybe I was looking at the wrong hub? Sorry. That wasn't the title I was looking at.

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      Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No problem Nelle. I still appreciate your effort to respond. I have become a strong advocate of community participation. Mainly because I was originally such a non-participant.
      
      Thanks anyway.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   Here's the hub I looked at "Horrible Hubpages Experience with Adsense Online Marketing and Promotion"
   
   Sorry about the raw nerve. I'm usually more supportive. But I tend to be very protective of Hubpages.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   I do think the pushing the limit on the links is the issue. But you should contact the Hubpages to make sure.

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      Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      again I appreciate your response. And although I don't think they were such a flagrant issue as to be the cause of the drop, it is not a problem for me to "hedge my bet" and edit them out now.
      
      But I'm still bewildered about such a drastic score drop in one day. I think Hubpages would have flagged the Hub it the links were the culprit.
      
      Great meeting you.
      Gregory

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         relacheposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         When Hub users have seen sudden and drastic plummets that then recover in the past, it's been due to a simple and transitory system glitch.  But since this is a weekend, we won't get any word from admin until Monday.  Since your score has reverted, there's a good chance this was the reason.

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            Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            thanks relache

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   Dale Mazurekposted 14 years ago

   Its really quite simple.  no more than 2 self serving links.  that means to an affiliate product, blog or website.  Those are self serving links.  i believe even linking to squidoo is a self serving link.

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      Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the input Dale, although I'm still unconvinced, I am not sure enough to be obstinate about it. The links will be edited.
      
      Gregory

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      sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ive been seeing this theory a lot lately, lol
      
      By what amazing artificial intelligence does hubpages know what a "self serving link" is?"
      
      Its 2 links to a single domain .
      
      The hubfilters do seem to pick up on overuse of affiliate links, im guessing from the tracking codes attached to each, but if that was true in his case when publishing he would get the message
      
      Spread MAddies hub about "overly Promotional" around , so this disinformational "self serving" meme can die
      
      http://hubpages.com/hub/Overly-Promotional
      
      Im pointing this out because my income comes primarily from affiliate marketing ...you can still write real content with value and have affiliate products.
      
      Tech fields and Affiliate marketing and ebay themes are terrible for adsense revenue since the audience is generally an affiliate marketer or ebay seller or generally a too savvy person to waste their time clicking crap adwords ads

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         Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         sunforged - Thanks for the input. I think your last point was the best. It has sent me in a new direction.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

    Great meeting you to Gregory.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    What Sunforged said.

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    krishnasumudraposted 14 years ago

    More links could mean a hub is overly promoting a site, its better to limit the links as specified by the hubpage.

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       Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       thanks krishnasumudra

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    shinujohn2008posted 14 years ago

    Hubscores bombs up and also down , it is common in hubpages

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       Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       well then...let's stop the bombing now...make love not war.
       
       Ahh, those were the days...
       
       thanks for the reply

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