A Question of Morality

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   L. Andrew Marrposted 14 years ago

   Ok, here is a question -
   
   A friend of mine has some porn on his phone.
   
   Another friend of mine came across the porn when she stole his phone to root through it.
   
   Who is most in the wrong? The guy for having porn on his phone of the girl for stealing his phone?
   
   Hmm, an interesting question me thinks.
   
   Luke.

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This IS an interesting question.
      I would have to say, porn is a relative, altho complicated issue.
      BUT stealing, and invading someones privacy, is wrong on all points.
      so, to answer who is in the most worng..the thief.
      are you the "friend"? is your girlfriend angry at you?

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         L. Andrew Marrposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Haha, it's not me - also the girl and guy don't really know eachother.

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            Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            WHAT!!???? why did she ..wait or he.. take the phone from the other person?

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      what this person does with his/her phone is thier own business, but he/she should know, thre are less expensive way to acess porn then a phone...

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      Stimpposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      looking through someone's mail, email or phone is an invasion of privacy.  having said that and if we r talking about morals...why did she feel the need to check up on him? did he tell her a non truth?  there r 2 sides to every story, i guess.   i know i'd be upset if i were in her shoes but i'm secure in my relationship and feel no need to monitor his activities.  if she was lied to..that also is morally injust.

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         L. Andrew Marrposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         They're not boyfriend/girlfriend - from what I can gather she was just being nosey...

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            Stimpposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Okay....invasion of privacy.  She is definitely wrong and why would someone do THAT as a friend.  That is no friend.  Dump 'er.

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   frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

   The nosy phone thief of course. What's wrong with porn? His phone. He can do what he likes with it.

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      Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah. Some nosy busybody roots through your stuff and YOU'RE the bad guy? Not.

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   L. Andrew Marrposted 14 years ago

   That's what I thought.
   
   Yes, porn can be seen as immoral because it is objectifying women (etc)
   
   But surely it is the lesser of two evils...

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      Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Uh...porn can objectify men as well!
      
      No one has any right to rummage through the personal belongings of another. Apparently you're not telling us everything. What is the relationship of the girl to the guy with the phone?

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      theleftflankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hold on there buddy, the pendulum swings both ways on that. Porn is just sex, with a negative connotation attached too it. His phone is still his possession, like his house. Anybody ever heard of invasion of privacy or protection from unreasonable search i.e. fourth amendment? No!? I concede that porn on your phone probably isn't the wisest thing to do, especially without some sort of pass-code but it's still his phone.
      
      And lastly, on the matter of objectifying women...It takes two to tango.  This is 2009 not 1980. Most of the women on those porn clips, do so voluntarily and sometimes not because they so desperately need the money either. She was probably searching for something anyway.

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   wesleycoxposted 14 years ago

   The silly girl that stole his phone and got upset when she found porn.  For crap sakes, he's a guy, guy's like porn.
   
   Anyway she is in the most wrong.

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   zadrobiposted 14 years ago

   It's against the law to steal
   
   Objectifying women is not.

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      L. Andrew Marrposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Nicely put.

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   Jeffrey Nealposted 14 years ago

   Yeah, I'm on the side of the snooper being the most wrong for her actions.

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   Valerie Fposted 14 years ago

   Depends. Is the "phone thief" married to your friend?

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   Well as long as it's regular porn and doesn't involve children or unconsensual stuff, I'd say the snooping thief is the "immoral" one.

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      hahahahahahahahahah
      regular porn, thats pretty funny
      really tho, the question was not..do you like porn? but, wich wrong is worse? watching other people have sex to get off? or invading soemone else's privacy? tough call I say

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         Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That's why I put the immoral in quotes. 
         
         I think regular porn involves consensual people who know what they are getting in to, think of it as a career, and that's just what they want to do for a living and they will find audience for that. I think invading someone else's privacy is more immoral. It's tough to answer without seeming like a perv.

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            Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Im getting out of this now, before I get myslef into any more trouble. I do believe you and I are on the same page.
            I just meant...regular porn..the phrase..was kinda funny! I do know exactly what you mean, and do agree.
            Children are not adults, stealing is worse then what you do with your own time and morals, without pushing them on someone else.

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               Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               No probs. I just wanted to head off the religious marys at the pass.

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                  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  

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               bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Porn is porn, unless it's Horror Porn, then you've really got yourself something!

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                  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  where ya been all day?!!
                  whats horror porn, or should I not ask?
                  my point was and still is, the question was not..is porn wrong, but wich one is worse?
                  I choose stealing and ivnvading a persons privacy to be worse...

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                     bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I've been busy today.  I had a meeting this morning, and have another one from 3 to 5.
                     
                     Horror porn is basically monsters and ghouls having their way with whom ever they want.....

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                        Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I believe I've experienced that more than once.
                        LOL

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                           Shalini Kagalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           

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                              Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Happy to make you smile, friend.
                              

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                        Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        ok?
                        sounds "interesting"...have a good meeting,hope all is well,  catch up with ya tomrrow?

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                           bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           I'll be here for a little bit.  It's only 1:40 here.

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                              Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              oh, well...enjoy
                              guess I forgot where "here" was..?

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                                 bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 I'm south of Heaven and North of Hell

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                                    Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    so your house is warmer then mine? I think im north of everything...

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                                       bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       Well aren't you special...

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            EmpressFelicityposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed.
            
            Reading the above I can't help thinking of the questions you're asked when you order at places like Starbucks or McDonalds: "Porn, madam? Regular or large?"

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               Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Large, always large!!!

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   Yes blood, that gory eyeball just turn so many people on!!!

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    Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

    Porn is fantasy. It's vicariously living through a fabricated experience.
    Porn is an example comparable to video games, which are also addictive.
    
    Steeling is not a vicarious experience.
    
    You do the math.

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    bloodnlatexposted 14 years ago

    What if you steal someone's porn because you don't want them to see you in it?

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       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       HAHAHHAHA!!!!
       You should just say, I dont remember that, they fed me drugs unknowingly...

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          bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Really Mom, they must've super imposed me!

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             Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             ##gasp##
             MOM, YOU watch porn??!!!

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                bloodnlatexposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                That's not me!...that's Buck Naked!!!

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Nothing wrong with porn, so he isn't wrong. She shouldn't have been searching through though. But I understand it happens. If she's a friend, then it isn't any of her business Even if she was a girlfriend its something that depends on the relationship. In mine... I wouldn't care if his screensaver was naked chicks.

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    poetlorraineposted 14 years ago

    my question would be why should anyone steal anything from anybody.......
    
    My answer would be...... Open pandoros box, without permission, don't be surprised at what you find..................

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    teendadposted 14 years ago

    I vote with the majority for the phone thief. Although, it's pretty dumb to keep porn on your phone, I think.

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Nothing wrong with porn - female or male - as long as the subjects are willing and of legal age. Stealing is wrong!

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