Is it my imagination or does Hubpages rely mostly on its authors to be the major

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   Misfit Chickposted 11 years ago

   Is it my imagination or does Hubpages rely mostly on its authors to be the majority of its audience?
   
   It's easy for author's to follow hubs and/or other authors, etc. And generally participating is rewarded via scores. But, it almost seems like an enclosed online community. I know articles can be found in online searches by the public. I came across Hubs once in awhile before I started writing for it, and It felt like I had to become a member. I often saw it in places advising how to make money online. Is there some way to include the rest of the world beyond other people who want to make money writing? Authors are supposed to market hubs, but this might be one of our lack-of-traffic problems.

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   peeplesposted 11 years ago

   The majority of my readers are Google traffic who do not belong to this site. I think the majority of us who have been here for a while get most of our traffic from non HP members. The rest of the world is included in the sense that almost anything they want to know can be found here. The site is for writers, the articles are for every one else.

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   CraftytotheCoreposted 11 years ago

   I think it's encouraged to use social media to market hubs such as Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, other blogging venues such as WordPress.  I'm not much in to social media, but that's what I hear a lot of the successful writers saying they do to get traffic.  I know people share and pin others hubs.  I'm not sure what extend this is encouraged, I personally know very little about it.  Just from what I've heard others say.

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   chasmacposted 11 years ago

   HubPages has to rely on outsiders, not members, for traffic. Our reading other members' hubs and following them, etc., makes no (or little) money for HubPages because we can't (shouldn't/ mustn't) click their ads. That's why there's a lot of posts and hubs about search engine optimization (SEO) or about using Facebook, Twitter or Pinterest, etc. to get traffic. Like Peeples, most of my traffic is from Google. We don't get money from Hubbers. Lots of love, but no money.
   
   If you don't mind me hijacking your question - I have a related one that maybe someone can answer while answering yours. Those of us who are in the HP ad program instead of the 'Adsense only' program make money from visits to our hubs; no clicking ads necessary. What I'd like to know is whether hubbers' visits to our hubs generate paid impressions or if HP have a way of discounting those 'internal' visits.
   
   Anyway, the bottom line is, if you want to make money, you need to aim for outside traffic sources.

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   duffsmomposted 11 years ago

   For me that is true, and I understand views by HP members do not count.

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   Misfit Chickposted 11 years ago

   This is all good to know, but my main point is... Is there a way to make outside readers feel like they've just encountered a non-enclosed online community? Like I said, it's the impression that I would get as a reader when I would cross paths with a Hubpage article. Also again, does Hubpages reach out to the rest of the world any other way than to have each author promote their own hubs? I've seen it in how to make money online places... Is there any other way Hubpages is promoted, like in reading circles instead of just writing ones? Not every reading lover is into writing. For instance, I think it might be helpful for outside readers to easily be able to follow an article or writer some other way than via social media. You can't really follow an article or an author that way.

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   ScarlaBlackposted 11 years ago

   A lot of traffic does come from Google.  Like the past answers have been saying, it's encouraged to use social media to promote your blogs.  I occasionally add one of my pages to StumbleUpon and I'll add a link to my Tumblr, but other than that I don't use social media.  Sometimes if someone does like your article they will share it with their friends via FaceBook or Pinterest and that usually bumps up traffic as well.
   
   As your hubs mature, depending on how good Google deems them, and how many people search for your topic and click on your article, they should climb the Google ranks.  A good bit of my articles are on the second search page, but some have climbed to the middle of the first page, and my most successful one is ranked first for a number of similar searches.
   
   Unlike Bubblews, Helium, Triond, and a bunch of others, I've noticed that HubPages hubs actually get seen by people NOT in the website's community, and that's why I'm most hopeful about this site.

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      Misfit Chickposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Scarla... Maybe it's just my perspective since I'm newish and it will change.

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   Ari Skyposted 11 years ago

   I am brand spankin new to the community. Fresh off the boat this morning. While looking into what it's all about, how to get started, how to write interesting hubs, etc., I noticed that the majority of pages I looked at were from HubPages users who taught and learned from each other. It seemed to me that these people were talking about how to be an effective money maker on this site, while their fellow HubPages friends were helping make that happen by keeping up with their informative hubs.
   I mean unless my understanding of the community is totally messed up which is also totally possible.

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      Misfit Chickposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi, Ari... I'm not sure I understand your point. Yes, Hubbers teach and learn from each other.

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