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   C.V.Rajanposted 14 years ago

   I have been writing at Howtodothings.com which, like Hubpages, shares 50% adsense ad revenue.
   
   This site has now stopped sharing this revenue with its members. I believe there is no official announcement to it.
   
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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's a pity this link was snipped as now we can't see what you were talking about. Can you post a non-live link so we can paste it in a browser?  I just checked their terms and conditions and they're still talking about sharing revenue.

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         darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Stop by C.V.Rajan's profile and it's the second last hub he published. Worth checking out.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks, that explains it!  Does the site allow people to use affiliate links or other means of earning revenue? If not, how do they expect to attract writers in the future?
            
            What I find strange is that their site's FAQ's still talk about revenue sharing, which is disgraceful if they're really intending to stop - it means newbies are still being signed up under false pretences.

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               C.V.Rajanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               That site has been somewhat non-communicative with writers for almost 1.5 years. They had one lack-luster member's forum earlier that they closed subsequently. No site upgrades; no newsletters, no communication with writers.
               
               If you e-mail personally to one of its administrators, reply will be prompt, nevertheless.
               
               Some bugs in uploading articles were very much there in the site ever since I knew!
               
               In fact, surprised at their attitude, I was reluctant to add any new articles there. My last posting there was perhaps some 6-8 months back.
               
               But that site gave me good page views. Some of my articles were no. 1 in google search. I earned anywhere from 0.5 to 1.5 dollars a day easily and the page view to ad click ratio was very impressive. So, despite all the limitations, the site was a good payer for me so far.
               
               I am the copy right owner for all the articles and I was permitted to re-post them elsewhere. In fact, a few of those articles have already been re-posted by me in Helium.
               
               Now I am re-posting some of my good articles in Hubpages now.
               
               Uninvited Writer,
               
               I too am like you. Though I post regularly at Hubpages, I find neither my traffic impressive nor my earnings worthy of a talk! I am yet to get convinced of my earning potential at Hubpages.
               
               
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                  PeterBostonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  It does not appear to me that Hub pages is a good earner either. It is disconcerting that a few weeks absence from Hubpages dropped my rating from the mid-high 80s to low 70s, which takes away the link juice besides! Their game - their rules.

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Why do you think a lower rating takes away link juice? 
                     
                     You've only been here three months, it's too soon to judge earnings.  I earned about $2 in my first three months (with 55 Hubs), but I now cash out every month.  It seems to take time for your Hubs to find their ranking on the search engines.  Patience!

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                        Andrew0208posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                          Exactly!

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      Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for letting us know!

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   easyspeakposted 14 years ago

   Do they let you keep the copyright on your work like Hubpages?  If Hubpages ever did that, I'm sure there would be an uproar, but all I'd have to do is transfer the hub content somewhere else.

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   lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago

   odd. sorry.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   Great, that just cut my Adsense earnings in half...
   
   I just looked at the site, I didn't see any AdSense ads on any articles.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   I haven't earned a cent from them in a week. I was earning more from them most days than HubPages. I am surprised they didn't let the members know anything. It's possible they are working on something...

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   cosetteposted 14 years ago

   so, if they recently "upgraded to a new CMS technology that is not compatible with Google’s Adsense sharing API", why not post that on their front page, or at least email its members?
   
   why should anyone do all that writing and get nothing for it.

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   efeguyposted 14 years ago

   hub page need patience and good writing

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   C.V.Rajanposted 14 years ago

   Marisa,
   
   As per Pareto's principle, 80% of your earnings will come from 20% of your articles.
   
   I have seen this happening at HTDT. about 3-4 of my articles only were generating most of my income and one of it actually accounting the most.
   
   I think it requires some sort of luck to end up in such "potential" topics! Perhaps you too have some such articles that are so good to generate steady income for you in Hubpages. Perhaps I have not got such articles here. Another stark reality is my case is my outside traffic is miserably low. Pageviews to ad click ratio at Hubpages too is too poor in my case.
   
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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That's exactly why I write on a wide variety of topics instead of trying to second-guess what will work.  It allows me to enjoy writing what I feel like, and sometimes I hit the jackpot!

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   Has_aWayWithWordsposted 14 years ago

   I am doing this as a way to potentially add income not be my only income, much like Marisa says, it takes time and variety. I am not giving up hope, if you throw enough sh1t some is bound to stick.

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    MarkAseposted 14 years ago

    Like almost all websites, it takes Hubs time to move in SERPS based on domain age.  It's possible to speed up the process by backlinking your Hubs.

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    Dorsiposted 14 years ago

    Yes it took me 10 months to get a payout from Adsense but now I get a check every month. My topics vary greatly and like someone else pointed out, I also write what I want and it surprises me the hubs that do well sometimes.....like one of my better ones is about my dog getting sprayed by a skunk....who woulda thought??...lol
    Yup, patience and just observing worked well for me!

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    Marisa Wrightposted 14 years ago

    Back on topic - someone posted a comment about Howtodothings on my Helium Hub, saying they'd withdrawn Adsense.  Strange though, I Googled and can't find anyone else talking about it - you'd think the authors would be up in arms!
    
    However, I just had another look at the site and unlike a few days ago, it now makes no mention of revenue sharing. Writers earn points, and it doesn't say what (if any) benefits you get from earning points.  Makes you wonder how they expect to attract authors.
    
    Does anyone live in Seattle?  I found this on their "About us" page:
    "Meet our Seattle-based Editorial team: Liz Smith, Vanessa Raymond and Brian McDonald.
    
    Look for us at coffee shops around the Seattle area where you can chat with us about the site or even suggest an article or two. Some of the cafes we frequent include: Canal Street Coffee, Fremont Coffee, Zoka and El Diablo Coffee.

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       C.V.Rajanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Marisa,
       
       Someone perhaps might have recently told them that drinking coffee is injurious to health!
       
       As for as I know, the number of people writing for HTDT are not too many when compared to Helium, Hubpages, AC etc. I have a doubt that many of the articles there would have been posted by site owners themselves in various names.
       
       Perhaps they are content to run the show this way. They might have opted to keep the articles of authors with them till they come to know of it and complain. I am sure they would have judiciously worded their original Terms of Agreement somewhere to this effect (this is what I suspect, because this is what many business do - you remember Helium), though I don't remember now.
       
       
       By the way, I just now noticed your 100 point author score. I don't know since how long you are keeping it, but congrats for it!
       
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    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    Well, they finally took down my articles. I'll be posting a few of them on hubpages eventually.

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