Can anyone make sense of this?

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   eugbugposted 7 years ago

   The text content of lots of Owlcation articles seem to be copied on this site. It's called Easy Write Service at the top of the page. Studybay is also mentioned and clicking on links navigates to their site but they said they had nothing to do with it. I filed a DMCA infringement report with Google for one of  my hubs, but they rejected it because they said the infringing page wasn't indexed.
   
   http://owlcation dot mobigrigh dot me/stem/

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      There are a bunch of these copycat sites usually from a foreign country like Russia. It is strange how google can do all their tweaking of their algorithms to reduce Hubpages s presence and yet do nothing about these other sites which by the way show up very high in google page ranking...
      It is almost like they welcome it and drive more traffic but care little about the users or the content creators...
      Very sad.

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   Kenna McHughposted 7 years ago

   DMCA?

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A DMCA report is what you file when someone plagiarizes your work.

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      Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) gives you the right to request a takedown of alleged plagiarized content. The hosting company has to oblige to you request, and the other party is given the right to defend themselves and reverse the decision. Of course, thieves will never be able to defend themselves.

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   Glenn Stokposted 7 years ago

   Google will only be able to remove the link from the SERPs, they can’t remove the content.
   
   If you found copies of your articles on “mobigrigh . me” then send a DMCA takedown notice to the host of that domain. That site seems to be hosted by Cloudflare. You can report it using their DMCA form at:
   
   https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us … complaint-

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      eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, thanks Glenn but they normally approve the report, but rejected it this time because "URL not found in the index.". I know they can't remove content but the odd thing is that I found the site listed in the SERPs yesterday when searching for a text string from a hub, but it doesn't seem to appear today.

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         Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Someone else may have reported their content was plagiarized and the host (Cloudflare) took it all down when they saw that the entire owlcation domain was copied.

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            eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            If I can still see the content, does that mean it's still cached, but the original content is removed and de-indexed?

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         TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I believe Google also removes ad income from plagiarized sites as well, making it stupid for people to keep them online.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You're almost right.
            
            The different departments of Google don't talk to each other.   If you report a copyright infringement to Google, you're talking to the Search department, and all they will do is de-index it.
            
            If you really want to hit the thief where it hurts, you can report them to Adsense.  They can't de-index the content but they can delete the thief's Adsense account and ban them from getting another one.

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   paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

   Just thought I'd join this thread for the company. Am dealing with 5 thefts at the moment my own wonderful self. All 5 are complicated messes involving a hub that I moved long ago. The thieves also translated it into a foreign language. Net result being Google won't even index my hub at the new location because they think my original is a stolen copy. Very fortunately, I saved the old HP URL Still awaiting Google's response. Google has the resources to determine I'm telling the truth, but will Google bother to use those resources? Stay tuned.

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   eugbugposted 7 years ago

   Just did a Google search again for a phrase from a hub and it actually does appear in the SERPs both on Owlcation.com and this site.

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   eugbugposted 7 years ago

   If a search term appears on SERPs, does that not mean the page is indexed? However my DCMA filing was disapproved. How can I appeal a decision without having to resubmit?

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      Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I just read your last three posts. I misunderstood your first post. When you said that Google said the link was gone, I thought you meant the copy of your article was already gone, meaning removed.
      
      In response to your last posts, if you can find the article via a search and it comes up in the SERPs then that means it is still indexed by Google (or whatever search engine you’re using). You would have to click the cache button on the SERP Listing to open the cashed copy. So that’s not it.
      
      Based on your last post, it looks like the copy is still there, and that it is still indexed by Google.
      
      You said your DMCA takedown request was rejected. Are you talking about Cloudflare?  They are the hosting service for that site, and that is the place you need to report it to. Google can’t help you.

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         eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I submitted a DMCA takedown request to Cloudfare, but shouldn't I request Google to stop indexing it also and causing it to appear in SERPs? That's what I've always done and Google have approved each request. In this case, they say it's not indexed, but clearly it is.
         Have I been incorrectly submitting DMCA infringement reports to Google all along?

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            Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Once the host takes down the page, Google bots and all other search engine bots will eventually realize it’s gone and they will remove it from the index. So you’re giving yourself double work filing the report with both the host and with Google.
            
            The only time I file with Google and Bing is when the host doesn’t take it down. This only has happened  with a handful of foreign country hosting services who don’t respect United States copyright laws.

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               theraggededgeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Yep. This. I've never understood why people faff with Google unless Google owns the platform in question. Go straight for the host and Google will take care of itself.

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