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Does the Internet Archive have a copy of your hubs?

  1. RonElFran profile image99
    RonElFranposted 13 days ago

    In checking to make sure that all my hubs are saved in the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive, I found many that were saved, and some that surprisingly were not there.

    My hubs on these niche sites were saved in the Wayback Machine: soapboxie, letterpile, turbofuture.

    But my hubs on these sites were not there: axleaddict, pairedlife, toughnickel, owlcation, healdove, and pethelpful. (The pethelpful hub is new, and may simply not have been scanned yet).

    Hubs that had not been picked up were first published as far back as March, 2016, and so should have been saved automatically long ago. I have no idea why they were skipped. Anyway, I manually added them.

    If you want to be sure copies of your hubs are archived and available to you in the Wayback Machine, you might want to check to be sure they have been scanned and added. If not you can go to archive.org and do it manually, as I did. It's good protection to have.

    1. chef-de-jour profile image97
      chef-de-jourposted 11 days agoin reply to this

      This website is news to me, ignoramus that I am. Are you saying that all articles published online are scanned automatically and filed away on this website?

      1. RonElFran profile image99
        RonElFranposted 11 days agoin reply to this

        They say that their mission is to be a repository of all knowledge, so I'm sure they try to cover the internet as widely as they can. But they don't get it all. They try to identify "important websites" to preserve. For example, while my articles on Hubpages and Yahoo Contributor Network are saved, my Bubblews articles are not.

  2. eugbug profile image99
    eugbugposted 13 days ago

    It's better not to rely on the Wayback Machine and simply save pages as an HTML file from within a browser.
    The archive is useful, but is there any advantage having backups there other than for retrieving hubs if your local backups get deleted or corrupted somehow? Its probably a good idea to backup to any of the available cloud services though.

    1. RonElFran profile image99
      RonElFranposted 13 days agoin reply to this

      The great advantage of the Wayback Machine is that provides you with an online copy that can be used to prove ownership in copyright (DMCA) cases.

      When Yahoo Contributor Network went away in 2014, I had more that 100 articles there, many of which had been stolen and posted to rogue websites. I didn't think to save those articles to my website until the closure of YCN was announced. By that time, unbeknownst to me, many were already copied by thieves. As a result, their publish date could actually pre-date the publish date of the copies I saved to my website. But if an article is saved in the Internet Archive at the time it's published, it provides ownership proof even if the original website goes away, as YCN did.

      For those who don't own a website where they can archive their articles online, I think the Wayback Machine is an absolute necessity. Otherwise, you can find yourself unable to prove your original publication date to Google, Bing, etc, and effectively lose control of your own articles if a site closes and thieves have already posted copies to their sites.

      1. eugbug profile image99
        eugbugposted 13 days agoin reply to this

        That's good to know, but is it guaranteed that they'll hold stuff indefinitely and not do some "spring cleaning" sometime, removing older copies of webpages?

        1. Garry Reed profile image95
          Garry Reedposted 11 days agoin reply to this

          I'm not much interested in copyright protection but I do want to keep a copy of everything I write, which I've done since 2001. For that reason I create all of my articles in MS Word which I can then copy/past into the pub tools of online publishers and then save my text and photos in my own folders in my backup drive. Still have everything I ever wrote. Might consider posting them to the cloud some time though.

          1. eugbug profile image99
            eugbugposted 11 days agoin reply to this

            Well it does help if your house burns down or burgled and data is lost. It's always a good idea to backup data off site (maybe even put stuff on a USB memory stick and store it in a glass jar in the garden!)