Help with moving this article to a niche site.

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  1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
    Shesabutterflyposted 9 months ago

    I know this article is not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but it does fairly well for me. I've tried submitting it at least twice in the past and it gets rejected with the basic e-mail. Is it worth editing again and trying to get it approved, or am I wasting my time? Am I focusing on a lost cause? I thought it might be too personal, but then I had a personal essay type article selected and moved, so I'm wondering what type of edits need to be done to get it moved. … -the-Bible

    1. vineliner57 profile image97
      vineliner57posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Did either of the emails mention photo attribution? I think that may be a problem. The pics you are using are okay to use, but you need to try and link directly to the picture itself, rather than the profile page of the photographer. I followed the link provided under your first picture, scrolled down for one whole page on her profile, and the photo was not on the first page. This gal has over 1,400 photos in her portfolio to look through.

      Here is how I have been doing it on my Hubs, and have had no problems. I will walk you through a test run, then you can go from there.

      1. Open the link under your first picture in another tab or window. This will take you to Melissa's profile page. Click on the first picture you see. This is the landing page that you want to link back to under your pictures.

      2. Download the picture to your hard drive. Copy the web address in your browser, then go back to the article. Open a new photo module (to be used for this experiment only). If you feel safer, click on "Don't display this capsule:" in case something wonky happens while you are doing this.

      3. Upload the picture from your hard drive. Paste the web address you copied earlier into the "Source Url" box.

      4. Go back to the landing page. Under the picture on the left side you will see a picture of Melissa. Copy the "Melissa Johnson" text and past it in the "Name of source" box under your new photo.

      5. As for the "Caption" box, sometimes I will use what they have written about the picture or some variation on it. In this case, she doesn't have anything, so you will have to be creative.

      If you desire, you can go back to the landing page and leave a little thank you note for posting such a great picture, and let them know where you are using it. I have seen some authors that request you do that very thing.

      When you use this method, you are (a) linking to the picture, (b) giving the author proper credit, and (c) if you look under the picture to the right, you will find a link to the CC license. All three of these are necessary conditions of most CC licenses, including the ones you are using.

      I also use this method when getting pictures from sites other than Flickr.

      Hope this helps.

      1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
        Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        No, they were the basic e-mail explaining the article was not selected possibly due to the nature of the article and then listed the bullet point list. There was nothing from an editor about what needed to get fixed so it would be approved.

        I didn't realize the links did not directly go to the photo's. Thanks for that! I will try and find them on the site so I can do it the way you suggested.

  2. Kierstin Gunsberg profile image97
    Kierstin Gunsbergposted 9 months ago

    What is your word count on this article? Make sure it's at least 1200 words. Also, what niche site are you trying to move it to? I'm admittedly not familiar with all of the niche sites but I'm having trouble deciding if this would fit well on any of them.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
      Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      The word count is 1,451. I was thinking Owlcation. That is where my other two biblical related articles are. One I submited and the other was hand selected. I thought this article was similar but it's been flat out denied several times now. I was thinking maybe it had too much of my own personal opinions in it?

  3. DrMark1961 profile image96
    DrMark1961posted 9 months ago

    Was Daniel the only brave leader in the Bible?
    Under each of your topic headings, I would include a desription of what that type of leader is, and then add a list of leaders. Then, after that, you can add a full description of how a leader handles situation (similar to what you did with Daniel).
    There is nothing to keep a reader on the page. How long are your readers on this page?
    Like Kierstin, I am not sure which site this would fit into.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
      Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      He wasn't. I simply think he's one of the more widely known characters of the bible and that's why I focused on him. I thought I included the descriptions, but I will double check that. I was thinking the text looked long and needed to be broken up more so maybe a list would help do that. Does something like a top 5 for each section sound okay and then I would go indepth with one of them from each category?

      How do I tell how long people are staying again? Under the stats tab on the hub it shows 5 stars for duration and links. Is there anywhere else I should be looking for that kind of information?

      1. DrMark1961 profile image96
        DrMark1961posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        I was thinking Owlcation after I typed this.
        Yes, you already have a description of each type. I meant to add the description you have already written above the list. (I would not use "top 5". That sounds a little sacreligious. How about the "Most inspirational 5" or something like that,)
        5 star duration is great!
        edit: You can also check session duration in Google analytics but I only know how to check all of my articles, not one in specific.

        1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
          Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Oh okay that makes sense. I was thinking either just bullet points or numbering them (numbers probably makes more sense), but I don't do lists very often, so top 5 or something similar is all I've ever really done. I can see what you're saying though and like your idea. I think I might combine it with daydream's idea of using some of the lesser known leaders. I had a few in mind before I read her comment, and I'm thinking that's probably the best way to go. It will be more interesting, but I think if I do it right, it could help with search engine traffic as the lesser known one's are harder to find on Google as well.

          Would you do smaller paragraphs with their own text capsules for the other 4 or maybe do only indepth on 2 from each category? I don't want to make the article too long, but it could help search engine traffic if I elaborate more on the lesser known ones. If they all have their own text capsule would it be easy to skim through since they would have their own titles? That's the only thing holding me back from making it longer. I already feel the article needs to be broken up more. Will heading/titles help break it up enough? I'm guessing I would need more photos if I decide to expand on some of the other leaders. Would more photo's help break it up or would it have the opposite effect and make it harder to read? I'm thinking more along the lines from a moblie device in regards to the pictures.

          Part of my problem is/was most of the influental/well known leaders fall into multiple categories so I was trying to pick the category that fit them the best or that they were most known for. It's even harder for some of the lesser known leaders and I think that's why I never updated the article to include a list of any kind.

          I was thinking Google analytics, but wasn't sure if I could see specific articles. I'll check it out anyway and see what I can find.

          Thank you for all the help!

  4. Kierstin Gunsberg profile image97
    Kierstin Gunsbergposted 9 months ago

    DrMark's organizational ideas are good.

  5. daydreams profile image98
    daydreamsposted 9 months ago

    I agree with what Dr Mark said.
    I think you need to make the article more easy to skim read. Maybe under each type of leader, have more than one example with headings for each? I think also having lesser known leaders might make it more interesting/unique. Hope that helps.

  6. DrMark1961 profile image96
    DrMark1961posted 9 months ago

    I do not think each person needs his own text capsule. The way you have it set up now looks great. (It may help for each person to have his own text capsule from a SEO standpoint. When I am writing an article like the 6 best dog breeds for an apartment I do make sure that each dog breed is listed in a separate capsule.) I think it just needs those lists, including the lesser known persons, to make it perfect.
    Let me know if you figure out how to check each article on Google analytics I go there almost every day to check my bounce rate and session duration but for all of my HP articles, not for any one in particular. I would like to know which articles have longer session duration. I do not think it is just based on word count.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
      Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I think I figured out how to find the individual stats. If you go to the behavior tab and click on all pages each page url comes up with stats for page views, avg. time, bounce rate, ect. Mine is showing 6 minutes for this article which I think would line up with the 5 stars from the HP stats tab on the actual article.

      1. DrMark1961 profile image96
        DrMark1961posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks I just went and checked on mine. I have lots of 5 stars on the HP system, but none of them are six minutes on GA.

        1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
          Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Your welcome.

          I updated the photo's as suggested. I double checked all the links and they now go directly to the photo. I also added the lists and revamped some of the titles. I'm not sure if the lists stand out enough though. What do you think?

          1. DrMark1961 profile image96
            DrMark1961posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I think it looks a lot better with the lists and the desription of one person under each list. I am not sure what HP´s waiting requirements are but I would try to resubmit when you can.

            1. Shesabutterfly profile image96
              Shesabutterflyposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Thank you for all your help. It is much appreciated. I believe it is still every two weeks. Although, it should go through the editor's since it was updated, so maybe they will select it when they reassess it for the quality check. Otherwise I'll resubmit.


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