I decided several weeks back to move one of my niche sites onto the maven platform, but I am kind of unsure now whether to go ahead or not. Has anyone who has moved over officially let me know their experience so far?
I have a few concerns. First of all, I have come to rely on my monthly AdSense income and by switching, Maven controls all the ads and that makes me nervous.
Secondly, I have a large following on my Facebook page and recently the whole Facebook Zoo thing has me concerned that if I am associated with the Maven platform my FB page may be one of the ones that gets censored.
I have been growing and building this site for a few years and it's really taken off the past couple of months with me doing my thing with it using Wordpress. The Maven site look is radically different than my websites look, even though I was told initially that it would look very similar and my visitors wouldn't really see too much of a difference. (this is not true if the training version of the Maven site is any indicator).
I know what Maven has to say about it, but curious what any of you who have already made the switch think - honestly think, about moving your site to their platform.
I haven't done it but, frankly, feel it's pretty risky...especially if you are having success here. If you want to make the change, however, I suggest you read their terms of service very carefully before you do. I would never take that risk because I don't want to be burdened with having to continually produce, and I don't think there is any guarantee that you would make more money than what you are making here.
If you are making money and are happy how it is all working, right now, I would not change. Who will benefit from the switch? You? Maven? Both? What happens if you switch and it doesn't work out?
If you're doing well, I would say stay away. I don't think you would have problems with FB, but you losing complete control and losing the design of your website (or the freedom to design it the way you want) is not worth it.
If you were struggling and saw your traffic go down all of a sudden, that's a different story. Maven seems to specialize in "ads", that's not worth anything if there's no one to see those ads.
I wouldn't do it. If your site is doing well look into mediavine or adthrive networks instead of AdSense if you want to increase income.
I've read that most publishers see 5-20 X the revenue of AdSense from those networks.
I don't think you'd get anywhere near that with maven.
I've just been accepted for mediavine with my new site and very much looking forward to getting going.
Mediavine sounds promising, I may contact you a few months from now asking you how it's going if you don't mind I am currently revamping my site and it would take me a month or two to get it done before I look into new advertising. Right now it's Adsense and Amazon. I am at 22k monthly visits, need to get that up to at least 30k (25k required by Mediavine), but with the new On-Page SEO I am working on, I hope to get there.
Absolutely. I'd love us to be able to share this kind of stuff with each other (and also other hubbers who have their own sites or who want their own sites).
Where's the best place to connect? I spend a lot of time on Facebook and messenger (way toooo much to be honest).
I wouldn't mind adding you on FB. But I will send you an email with my profile, don't want to share it here.
Count me in too, I'd do this. Would be nice to talk to a few fellow hubbers who are also blogging and doing niche sites on the side.
It seems that Mediavine requires 25k sessions (specifies sessions not page views so not sure exactly what the difference is - someone who reads one post then reads 4 more would count as one session not five views?) and adthrives lowest category is "under 100,000" and goes up to "over 10 million so seems like maybe they want at least 100k? (10 million views a month! Holy cow! My head about explodes just thinking of this!) I wonder if there are any good alternatives for lower traffic blogs? I've tried a couple of them but the latest employs popups which is a problem and others just didn't show any kind of return above a penny or two a day.
I think you're right about the definition of a session, it counts everything that happens during the total visit by one person.
25k sessions sounds a lot but it's been pretty easy to achieve using Pinterest so if you have pinnable content that's worth looking into.
Yes adthrive is minimum 100k.
AdSense is probably the best ad network for lower traffic blogs. Depends how much time you want to put into it but you could create an e-book to sell on site or promote some affiliate products that match your content. There are a lot of possibilities for increasing income.
I'm looking at that too. I am just a hair shy of the threshold but should hit it very soon as my site is a bit seasonal and Fall is when I get a major traffic increase.
After a lot of consideration, I decided to bow out of working with the Maven network. I am too Type A to give up that kind of control and frankly, the look of their websites are just not what my visitors would like.
I was told initially the look of my site wouldn't change much, but that was not true, which makes me wonder what else I was told would also be untrue.
In addition to AdSense, I also do well with Amazon and another specific niche affiliate and to gamble all of that income is just not feasible. I haven't been shown any tangible evidence by Maven that they are more profitable than what I'm currently doing.
I was just not comfortable with it and I will wait a month or so and go for Mediavine instead.
Thanks for all the input.
Would be cool if Maven started an ad service of their own. Something like Adsense, where you don't lose control of your website.
I believe that is Maven's intent to run ads as a service.
I agree and would maybe consider it then. The lack of transparency and complete loss of control over everything but developing daily content is very off putting though. I think Maven needs to do a much better job of explaining things and showing examples if they want to pull our niche sites into their network. I was just unconvinced with what they showed me. I do hope others who have made that switch do well, but it's just not for me.
Unless Maven provides some transparent info about their monetization (e.g. average CPM) I would see no reason to give them an already successful and money-earning site.
I agree. After working with them for a bit I found I didn't feel confident at all that it would be a good move for me. A lot of talk about how great their platform is, but I was never shown numbers that would tell me maybe what I could expect. At least while controlling my own ads, I can see and know what is working and what i should maybe change. I don't like the idea of no control and no transparency. I am just not that much of a gambler.
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