Does Hubpages miss me? So what's new? And where do I start again?

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  1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
    TessSchlesingerposted 6 years ago

    I haven't been on Hubbpages for a while. I needed to develop an alternate form of income and have been focusing on writing ebooks. Still a few more to go, then I'm uploading them altogether and marketig them together. Will be another few months.

    My traffic has dropped radically in the last week, and for the first time, my hubberscore has dropped. I take it that absence does not make the heart grow fonder.

    That said, I've had a few old articles being selected for the niche sites - which is quite touching, and the reason I've come back.

    I need to know:

    1. Through the years, I've repeatedly lost money on content sites that were sold (starting with Associated Content when it was sold to Yahoo). Is it really worth investing time and energy in Hubpages for the medium to long term?  I am so very tired of investing in sites, then seeing a change of ownership, and the owners in their efforts to up the profits and get back some of their investment, penalise the writers. I still don't trust Maven. Do you?

    2. I'm very close to getting my one million views in a few months. If I delete certain articles, will that affect the numbers?

    3. I've noticed that the 'write' criteria seem to have changed. Is writing more than 1200 words now not acceptable?

    4. Some of the books I've written over the last 5 months have similar articles. Is it okay to link them to the article or is self-promotion totally dead on Hubpages now?

    Many thanks.

    1. ethel smith profile image81
      ethel smithposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome back. I am a recent returner too so will follow this thread and see what advice regulars have. I did remove quite a number of my hubs for my own site long time ago. For me I am writing here again as I am rusty and enjoy the process. I am retired now so it is a just for fun venture for me.if I earn it is a bonus

  2. theraggededge profile image88
    theraggededgeposted 6 years ago

    Hi Tess,

    I wondered where you had gone. Welcome back smile

    Nothing much has changed in the last couple of months. You are aware of the Maven takeover, aren't you?

    I think that word count when writing hubs is just a guide. I've written lots with many more.

    As to your view count. I'm not sure about that.

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
      TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. I moved house again, and then started writing books again. Still have three more to do. Plus a ghostwriting gig. Also recently started a blog on medium. I want to transfer my political posts there because it is a political blog, and my political hubs don't do well here.

  3. wilderness profile image95
    wildernessposted 6 years ago

    I would be absolutely amazed if the total views is not the sum of the "ever" column for all the hubs.  Which means that yes, the total will drop if you delete hubs.

    Does it really matter?  How important is that accolade to you?  How badly do you want to get rid of hubs?

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
      TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Sort of thought that might but the case. Thanks.

    2. TessSchlesinger profile image60
      TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Wilderness, I want to transfer my political hubs to Medium. They don't do well here.

  4. Sherry Hewins profile image87
    Sherry Hewinsposted 6 years ago

    wilderness is correct; if you delete a hub, any views they have will be deleted from your total.

  5. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image78
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years ago

    I've close to 300 pages here. I bet I've deleted well over 100 over the course of 8 years. Most of those weren't especially good webpages, but at one time I thought, 'screw it, this thing has ten thousand views? I don't care. I don't like it. I can do this same thing much much better.'

    Delete, and when the page is actually gone after 24 hours or so, the total view count will be adjusted downward.

    1. Jean Bakula profile image89
      Jean Bakulaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I've deleted hubs that were on niches, but because I came to dislike them too. I don't think I suffered from it.

      Usually I come back and write something different. Or write about the same thing, only express it better the second time around.

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
        TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you. Then I'm going to go ahead. smile  Can'tdo it right now, but as I remove them from Hubpages I will write something more appropriate to this platform (or remove from Wizzley and put there.

  6. paradigmsearch profile image60
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Yep. Personal experience. When hubs are deleted, the total does indeed drop.

  7. Natalie Frank profile image91
    Natalie Frankposted 6 years ago

    Welcome back, Tess.  Absence may not make the heart grow fonder but you were indeed missed. Have you had success on Medium?  I have written a few things there to try and see if I can earn something extra as my earnings never seem to go up here no matter how many views I get.  400 views is a buck fifty to two bucks so is 600 or 1000.  Don't know how that is but it just is.  Medium is a bit odd as income is based on "claps" but only for those who have bought a membership and then you get a small percentage of their monthly fee based on how many articles they clapped for.  I have earned 6-10 dollars on a couple of articles the first week they were up, another couple of bucks but then it stagnated.  I seem to be spreading myself too thin, trying to keep up with a bunch of social media sites, bookmarking sites, Medium and HP.  I need to streamline.  I guess everyone gets into that position at some point or another.  Congrats on the ebooks!  That takes a lot of perseverance.  Hope you stick around!

  8. TessSchlesinger profile image60
    TessSchlesingerposted 6 years ago

    I decided to take the patron route with regard to Medium as everything I read indicated it was not likely that one would earn there.

    I decided to use Medium as a blog as it has a collection of outstanding writers. I studied it for about three months before I started (only two weeks ago).

    Yesterday I noticed that both yahoo and google had already indexed my blog. Someone googled me at the local library and as I only posted two weeks ago, I was quite stunned.

    As I have been preparing and writing the blogs for a few months, it has been easy to just copy and paste so it is regular.

    My end goal is more name recognition and a broad following on several fronts. Hopefully, this will lead to selling more books.

    1. Natalie Frank profile image91
      Natalie Frankposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Gotcha.  Good plan.  I'm happy for your about your blog.  That's a great response.  You obviously are an excellent writer with good knowledge about what people want to read about (but we knew that already smile )

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
        TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you, but the truth is I've been slow on the update. I really learnt about what people want to read through social networking - specifically through Google Plus. I made a study of all my posts that went viral (up to 1.5 million readers/views each), and started realizing that if a headline and illustration didn't catch the eye immediately, then it would sink.

        More or less that's why I think there are several factors that need to work in the article. The two things that are vital are the headline and the first picture.

        Also one has to use longtail keywords for one's title/s.

  9. Kenna McHugh profile image92
    Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

    Welcome back!

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
      TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you.  smile

  10. lobobrandon profile image91
    lobobrandonposted 6 years ago

    Nice to see you back on the forums smile Btw, out of topic. But how is the water situation in Cape Town right now? It's been off the news for a while.

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
      TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      We're still down to 50 litres a day. Nothing has been lifted. Tourists are still told we are facing a water shortage. There are still massive fines. That said, many of the dams have filled up, are half full, but some others are still too low.

      There's a weariness that if we just use up all the water, we will face this again.

      South African global warming authorities have indicated that our area will face flash floods and drought, and that is our future.

      1. lobobrandon profile image91
        lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I see. Yes, there is a scare of both in that region and many other regions around the world. I hope they work to make things better.

        1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
          TessSchlesingerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I doubt very much that the bans on water usage will lift. People might be angry that the government didn't prepare for this, but we all understand global warming. We know what the future holds, and we understand that water is a precious commodity. I think there has been a general change of consciousness.

          1. lobobrandon profile image91
            lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            That's good. There are still many in power who say climate change is a hoax. It was the same when the ozone hole was getting bigger, many in power said it was a scam.

            1. profile image0
              RTalloniposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Not sure anyone truly believes climate change is a hoax, though they may use the phrasing because those promoting all of the phrases connected to it have confused the related theories. Everyone knows the climate has always and will always change.

              Water is a precious commodity and in areas where people over build usage needs to be managed properly. The earth is a closed water system that people need to better understand and work with in order to face population concentration issues. Over population is not the problem, but over concentration of populations creates issues. 

              Just as people in hurricane prone areas need to be prepared to deal with all that can happen when a large one hits, growth in areas prone to drought need to realize that if there is an over concentration of people/buildings they need to be prepared for times of drought. The best case scenario for people who do not have a backup plan in these sorts of situations is displacement.

              1. TessSchlesinger profile image60
                TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                ++++++

            2. TessSchlesinger profile image60
              TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Only in America. The rest of us in the world don't argue about climte change. Our identities don't depend on our success and our money. So we don't have a vested interest in destroying the evidence of science because it challenges our profits in business (and that is what is behind climate change denial).

              1. lobobrandon profile image91
                lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Exactly.

              2. DrMark1961 profile image99
                DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Only in America? What about communist China?

                1. lobobrandon profile image91
                  lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Communist China is pushing for green energy more than any other country in the world right now. Mr. Trump says China invented the term to take down the US economy, so even he knows Communist China is better than the US in this aspect. Read this for instance: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/worl … hange.html

                  1. DrMark1961 profile image99
                    DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Really interesting. Thanks.

                  2. TessSchlesinger profile image60
                    TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    +++++

                  3. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I'm not sure that China's push for green energy has much to do with climate change; I would guess they are more concerned with not killing off half their population with intense pollution.

                2. TessSchlesinger profile image60
                  TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  ??? You clearly don't read. China is way ahead of America in terms of preparing for climate change. They are greening their cities and are now planning a city that is completely run on clean energy.

                  Forgive me, but do you actually read news sheets outside the American propaganda machine?

                  1. DrMark1961 profile image99
                    DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Yes, I do read. Amazingly enough, we have education here in Brazil. What we do not have is massive rows of factories leading to even more global warming.
                    Forgive me, but do you think that is okay?

  11. TessSchlesinger profile image60
    TessSchlesingerposted 5 years ago

    Actually, we need to sort this out.

    One of the constants that come up with people who follow me on social media is that no matter what I have said, no matter how much they have disagreed with me, when they have checked my sources, my words, whatever, they have never in five or ten years ever found me to be wrong. And I have had a good few people say that.

    Many of my reviews come from people who have spent years arguing with me, trolling me, etc.

    So I say things that hit at people, at ideas, at cliches, at holy cows, whatever. I say them because I am thinking. I say them because I am sometimes just plain shocked at how little people actually know. I say them because someone needs to say them. But I never, never, never say them in a spirit of malice or vengeance.

    At the moment, there's a meme doing the rounds on various social networks. It says that if you can answer the 7 questions correctly, you will never be taken in by fake news. I got 6. The interesting thing about the questions is that every single bit of it was recently in the news. If one read widely, one couldn't help but get 7.

    But most people don't. They don't read the Guardian. They don't read the Intercept.They don't read The Daily Mail. They don't read Der Spiegel. They don't read France 24. They don't read the Wall Street Journal or the Atlance or New Scientist or Science News or the Telegraph or African News or the BBC or National Geography or Psychology today. So they don't know. They have a narrow perspective, because for the past 40 years newspapers have begun to slant their news in order to garner market share. (I was taught all about that at the London School of Journalism), and so if one doesn't read the opposing views, one cannot be sure what is the truth and what is propaganda. The best way to find out what is going on in one's own country is read the news about one's country is an international publication.

    Yes, I know that for many years I struggled and was virtually destroyed (that's why I left Hubpages the first time), and I know a great deal of this is that I have Aspergers and seldom got the social etiquette of 'if it's not nice, don't say it.'

    I can't say that I'm guilty of that anymore. You all hurt me and destroyed me so much that I eventually learnt. Now I know what is meant by I'm hurting people's feelings and I am being tactless and rude and whatever.

    Here's the thing. Don't you think our personal ego needs to be put behind us and we need to be able to talk about things without having to watch our words?

    As per the last post, only someone who didn't read widely couldn't know that China was at the forefront of converting technologies to pollution free and global warming friendly. Xi Xinping spoke about it Davos. He also made this speech about globalisation.

    https://america.cgtn.com/2017/01/17/ful … omic-forum

    So when someone asks me if China isn't worse than America when it comes to global warming, my jaw drops. I am stunned. That is honestly my first response. And when I ask if they read, it's a serious question -  not a bitch remark. It's idiomatic phrasing, by the way. It means do people read books, reliable sources, etc. It does not mean if they learnt to read at school.

    I am so very tired of constantly having to defend myself. I don't want to be seen as a nasty person. I'm not. I have a genuine desire to make our world a much better place for all. And I've lived in a great many different places, under different political dispensations, and I read a book a day,plus about three or four hours of screening international news wires, magazines, scientific resesarch, etc. I don't speak lightly or write lightly. I want to be sure I'm right. That's why I check things so much. I do that because I care.

    I don't want to apologize constantly because what I said hurt someone's feelings. It's not about our feelings. It's about our world.

    1. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Respect.

  12. EricDockett profile image99
    EricDockettposted 5 years ago

    This thread made me chuckle.

    Starts out as "Does HubPages miss me" and quickly devolves into the OP and others hurling insults at the American people, American business and the American President.

    I suppose it would be useless to point out the irony of this happening courtesy of a platform created by an American company via American capitalism which has a disproportionately huge American audience whom many of the critics here profit from.

    I got a laugh out of it, anyway.

    1. theraggededge profile image88
      theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      big_smile

    2. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      It's not pointing fingers at America if you read it through. It's more of trying to open the eyes of people to the problems of the world. Capitalism and democracy have nothing to do with the bigger picture and everyone needs to work together. But I'm out of this thread, some people are just too boundary centric and can't see wider. Boundaries are man-made. Most of them didn't exist 200 - 300 years ago.

  13. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image78
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

    I'm literally ashamed that I didn't vote for Trump. I'm going to get it right this time though, and in 2020. I can see US democrats for what they are now. I'm voting Republican all the way in November, and I'm going to proudly vote for Trump in 2020.

  14. lobobrandon profile image91
    lobobrandonposted 5 years ago

    I don't want to bring this forum thread alive again, so please do not reply to this post, send me an email if you want to. Check this out:

    https://twitter.com/i/moments/1045785370435043333

    (begin quote) republicans, previously: there's no need to reduce fossil fuel emissions because climate change isn't real

    republicans, now: there's no need to reduce fossil fuel emissions because climate change is unavoidable (end quote)

    I personally don't have the time nor motivation to look into that report, but quite a few well-informed people have commented on it.

  15. TessSchlesinger profile image60
    TessSchlesingerposted 5 years ago

    Why is it that hubpages can't have a BLOCK button. Every other site in the world does.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Who would you block?  Anyone that doesn't agree with you on "your" thread?  Seems pretty boring that way...

    2. theraggededge profile image88
      theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So YOU get to choose who can express an opinion or not? Cool.

    3. DrMark1961 profile image99
      DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You really should consider emigrating to China. When the leaders tell you how much they are improving things you can believe them, and when anyone disagrees you can petition the government to block their site.

  16. Sherry Hewins profile image87
    Sherry Hewinsposted 5 years ago

    You guys really are kind of piling on here.

 
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