Plagiarized... or not?

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   theraggededgeposted 6 years ago

   While chasing down a couple of copiers this morning I came across this, published this year:
   
   https://bodymindspiritguide.com/2018/04 … cs-traits/
   
   Would you say there are enough similarities to this, published last year, to submit a DMCA?
   
   https://exemplore.com/auras/Indigo-Crys … w-Children
   
   It's also been published in a digital magazine. She has taken many sentences word-for-word and reproduced the lists almost verbatim.

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      snakeslaneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Sure looks that way!

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      Bethieannieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I am glad that they took it down. I had the same situation and when I filled the DMCA, Google would not take it down over a similar type of issue.

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         theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Google can't take down a website unless they own it. You have to go to the webhost.
         
         As a last resort, I'd go to Google to remove the site from search results, but I'd rather the offending page be deleted.

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            Bethieannieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Well, they couldn't offer any help. They weren't willing to remove it from search results. I had other successful requests, I guess you can't win them all.

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               theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               That's crazy, if it was a clear case of plagiarism. So have you gone the webhost route?
               
               I've laid out the process here: https://hubpages.com/community/forum/34 … ca-report-

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                  Bethieannieposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I've only been brave enough to go that route once, and it did work. Perhaps, it's something I need to consider more seriously.

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                     theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Don't worry, they can't see you. Their clients are the thieves, not you. You have every right to have the stolen content removed. And the webhost doesn't want that sort of thing happening anyway, it's probably against their ToS.
                     
                     Once you do a few a week (I did three yesterday), you won't think anything of it.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If there is anything that has been directly copied...even one sentence or phrase or photo...it is plagiarism.  Even if she "spun" your thoughts, it is plagiarism.  File a DMCA asap.

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         DrMark1961posted 6 years agoin reply to this

         People spin my thoughts all the time. When I write an article on the six best breeds, or seven best breeds, a few months down the road the exact same choices I have made, with the exact number, is being produced elsewhere.
         As far as I know you cannot file a DCMA for stolen thoughts.

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            lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            This is also what I thought when I sent the Copyscape compare link, the thoughts and ideas were definitely copied, but most of the words weren't. In such cases, I do not think the host would take the content down with a DMCA.

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   lobobrandonposted 6 years ago

   Maybe it is a copy, but it's mainly a copy of ideas and not text. This will not be taken down if you file a DMCA. You could try, I could be wrong. But too little is actually copied. Compare two webpages here: https://www.copyscape.com/compare.php

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      theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I contacted the editor and she agrees that it is too close in wording, language, style and structure and they have taken it down So I can't compare it now.

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         snakeslaneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Good work! Great to get immediate results.

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            theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            The editor is lovely and we are now talking about me writing some material for her publication. I like it when that happens.

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               snakeslaneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Perfect. I was thinking that when I saw the site.

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               lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Ooh, that's awesome. It had 4% copied content according to copyscape in case you wanted to know

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                  theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  That low?! I kept seeing duplicated sentences all through. I know she added her own writing into it.
                  
                  The writer, herself, has been in touch and it's all sorted.

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                     lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Yup. There were whole sentences in there highlighted but by word count it was that low, I was surprised myself. The tool takes into account all words on the page, so sidebar, footer, etc included.
                     
                     
                     I'm glad it's sorted out.

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   psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

   It is page not found -- so I guess they took it down?

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   Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

   I was copied and just rewrote my piece.I thought the article came out better than before. It is ranking much better, now with red triangles. : )

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      lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Nice. Red arrows <3

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   RJ Schwartzposted 6 years ago

   I'm sure there are people who may be new to HP that would find a quick tutorial on "how" you do your checking on-line.  It's a difficult task, but you've seemed to have a good system.

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      theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Here you go:
      
      Copy the first sentence or two from your hub. Paste it into Google's search bar. Check the results.
      
      Now take another couple of sentences from further into the article. Repeat as above. Sometimes they don't take the intro.
      
      I also find it helpful to check Bing. I've picked up a couple that Google didn't show.
      
      My take-down strategy:
      
      1. Go to whois.com, type in the domain name and find the webhost or registrar.
      
      2. Go to *their* website and find the contact email or page for reporting abuse. It sometimes takes a little detective work.
      
      3. Copy the text from Hubpage's DMCA (go to your account page https://hubpages.com/my/hubs/copied then to the copied article, then on File DMCA. Copy the text. It will contain the original HP URL and the offending URL.
      
      NOTE: If you have found the article yourself, you can still use HubPage's text but you will have to change the URLs yourself. It's worth saving the pro-forma text to a document file so you always have it to hand. I'll paste it in to this message.
      
      4. Paste it into the email or webform, making sure to insert your name and contact details where indicated, and your name again at the bottom. Send.
      
      HP DMCA
      
      I am writing to you to avail myself of my rights under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). This letter is a Notice of Infringement as authorized in §512 of the U.S. Copyright Law.
      
      1. The copyrighted work at issue is the text that appears on:
      
      [HP URL]
      
      2. The URLs where my copyrighted material is located include:
      
      [Infringing URL]
      
      3. My contact information is as follows:
      
      [your full name]
      [your address]
      [email]4. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above as allegedly infringing is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.
      
      5. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
      
      [your full name]

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   DrMark1961posted 6 years ago

   Bev, do you go through this procedure if it is a .ru site?

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      theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If I can find a webhost, yes.
      
      Argh, I cannot get that #4 to drop down from the [email].

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         lobobrandonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I should report that error. Spam like this is not acceptable
         
         It would be a nice hub to have or something on the learning center. It's hard to find forum links all the time.

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