Yay! Welcome back, Marisa
That's definitely great news. Hopefully, the forums will become a place once again where we can learn from one another, improve our articles, and earn more. Thanks for sharing this!
Welcome back Marisa. I didn´t know that you have left Hubpages until now.
Well, it's less frequent that I pop in to the forums these days I suppose than it is that the news headlines are positive, uplifting and cheerful - but I'm glad I did tonight (this morning). Welcome back, Marisa!!
I've been urging her return for some time and am so glad to see her. Have missed her terribly. Such a good writer and so full of credible and helpful info. Welcome back, my friend!
Marisa. You are hereby cyber-hugged, if you choose to accept.
Welcome back, Marisa!
Just reading the "Guess who's back.." I guessed it was Marisa Wright. The bond theraggededge shares with this community is beautiful.
Another intelligent voice added to this forum. Good news.
Logged in this morning and found this thread. Thanks guys!
I won't guarantee to be a voice of wisdom or to help others learn about HubPages. It's been a long time since I took much interest in the science of getting online readership - I'm sure most of you know more than I do about the current state of play.
The current state of play is a shambles.
Meanwhile, were you here when Maven bought HubPages?
Yeah not really. What nobody bothers to talk about is how Google Android dropped us all almost entirely from search.
So 4 or 5 months ago I'm getting 1000 views a day from Google Android, but today I'm getting exactly ONE page view a day from Google Android.
I keep looking at Hubpages, nobody seems to know the answer to this riddle. And it's not changed.
That's not the entire traffic issue, but it seems to be the most troubling one.
Anyway, nice to see you.
If that was happening for the whole site, then I'd expect HubPages to be launching one of its wholesale redesign/rule change purges. I say that because it has happened twice before and both times, HubPages carried out a massive overhaul.
Have you checked out your competition recently?
Wesmans concerns are valid.
As far as I know, based on the comments on the forums, is that it was a sitewide issue. It was never addressed by HP.
I personally lost several thousand page views per day. I had 39 Google android visits in the last 24 hours.
My pages never lost ranking with Google so it was not a matter of competition. My traffic is back where it was before the loss of Google android, but if we still had that source I would be seeing several thousand per day more visits.
I have asked a lot of people for opinions as to why we lost this traffic source. No one has been able to provide a way to get the views back.
For me, the first question to ask is "what the heck is Google Android"? I just tried to Google it and got nothing useful.
Google searches via Android phones and tablets. All phones, more or less, that aren't Apple or Windows.
I assumed that was what it meant. However, if I try Googling the term "Google Android", it doesn't exist. That surprises me if it's an official term used by Google within Analytics - you'd expect them to mention it in their support documentation.
If we've lost Android searches, then there's something wrong with how HubPages works on cellphones, which has led to Google penalising the site. if that's the case, I'm very surprised that HP isn't doing something about it. It's been well-known for years that most of our readers aren't using desktops any more.
(I haven't used Analytics for years, BTW, as my websites were on Wordpress and there are several much better alternatives available)
I just tried a test on one of my Hubs. The result said the page was mobile-friendly, which I'd expect.
However it also said that "some resources couldn't be loaded" which is a worry, depending on what isn't being loaded. From Google's help screen:
"If a blocked resource is important, it could have a big effect on how Google understands the page. This affects both the mobile usability score and Google's ability to crawl your page."
What's being blocked is probably ads and trackers, which would make sense, but it's a question.
If I were HubPages, I'd be moving the date and the author bio to the bottom of the article, so that more of the article is visible on a small screen.
Yep, if you go to Traffic Sources on your account page. You should see Google.Android.com When you click on it, the page can't load - I thought it was because I was doing it from my laptop but it doesn't work on my phone either.
I've had 33 Google.Android searches in the past 24 hours. You'd think it would be a lot more, given that not so many people use laptops and computers.
To add to my other statement, it helps (makes it easy to test from my phone) that I get around 5 visits from Google android a day compared to a few thousand via Google.
EDIT: Go to your Google analytics account > Audience > Mobile > Devices you will see the most form iPhones and iPad because they are all kind of a single product and you will have hundreds of other sources which you will notice are Samsung phones, etc. which are all Android devices and this number will far exceed the Google Android searches on your HP stats page.
You're a traffic monster then. Heh. I'm at ZERO for the past 24 hours.
I was getting 600-1000/day from Google Android just a few months ago, and that number was pretty consistent for the previous year.
I do suppose I've been saying it incorrectly, however, as the stats page refers to it as android google.com
So android google, not google android.
android.google.com 46 241 611 468,541
This is from my traffic sources. So mine too is listed as android.google.com.
I can't find any webmasters discussing android.google either. Whatever it is, it can't possibly represent all Android searches, because that would be a massive number - didn't HubPages say more than 80% of all traffic comes from mobile devices?
It must be some other feature of Google's - perhaps something they were trying out without announcing it formally. It worked in HP's favour for a while and now it doesn't. Typical Google!
Lobobrandon's explanation sounds plausible.
Well I thank you and Brandon. An explanation beats the lack of an explanation altogether.
Also, If I failed to ever thank you for helping me out here and there years ago - then let me apologize for that, and thank you.
No, this isn't it. Those visits show as google, not Google android. You can test it out.
I think Google Android is the traffic that comes from the new chrome tab on an android phone that gives you suggestions to news or articles you may be interested in. It is usually new content that shows up there.
Then we will share our info with you to bring you up to date!!
Welcome back Marisa! Hope you’ve been doing well while you were away.
Delighted to see you back. Have you got some time on your hands? I had recently started a job with the US census. I worked 2 days and then got furloughed lol.
I was already retired, but I did still have a bit of website design and maintenance work. However one client was a yoga studio - and they've had to close due to the lockdown. The other two clients are in Italy, and one's a doctor, so I don't expect to hear from them for the forseeable.
My main reason for rejoining is that I've just closed down my last two websites. When I sold my original HubPages accounts, the plan was to focus on my websites because the income was much better from them. However, the income has gradually declined until it's no longer worth the effort. Closing them has left me with a whole lot of material that has no home, so I thought I might as well post it on HubPages - if it earns something, that's a bonus.
Welcome back, Marisa. That's sad about your website(s), but for the most part, writing on HP is the same as when you were here, not a lot of change over the years in the overall article structure, etc. that does well.
As a newbie, you are welcome to create a thread asking for help and feedback on a hub, Bev just loves those
I was tempted, because a couple of my articles got rejected on first attempt, much to my chagrin. However they are all Featured now.
Do they still get considered automatically for the niche sites? How long does it take these days?
Also, what's the attitude on affiliate links (other than Amazon). Any chance I might be able to include one in each Hub or is there no hope?
Featured hubs are automatically considered and I believe the option to submit one every 14 days still stands. The amount of time they take to be moved depends on the niche site as they all have different queues with different editors (some editors work cross niche too). On Dengarden, mine were moved roughly within 4 days, but some have had wait times of up to a week and a half or so. It is important to note that I have not had the time to write a new hub in almost a year though.
Also, you will not know if the hub was already considered and did not make it which is a pity. It's therefore wise to begin submitting after 14 days if you do not see it move automatically, of course after making some sort of improvements. What counts as an improvement, well you're going to have to see some of the top-performing hubs on the niche site you want to move to and compare it with yours in terms of structure, etc.
I have personally never used any other affiliate links, but the same old rule applies, there were no changes made. You can include them provided they are very relevant and you add some info about the product, etc that is not typically found on the product page. Amazon capsules are kind of frowned upon, they prefer that you link through in-line text now (using the HP amazon link tool though as this allows the 60-40 share). The same rules apply for amazon links, targetted and some info around them that shows you know about the product.
One change you might have missed is that we get the Amazon split of the total of the products, not a random luck of the draw on purchases - i.e. this sale was HPs and the next one will be yours; now they are lumped together and we split on the total sales for the month.
They'll be moved automatically but you can still submit one every 14 days. Only use the Amazon and make sure to use it correctly and you'll be OK.
I am an affiliate for Shareasale and Bellydance.com. Now the websites are closed, I have no way to earn more commissions - and I already have money sitting in both of them. It would be nice to get those earnings up to the threshold so I can claim them.
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