Earnings Drop on Monday, 9/21

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   Glimmer Twin Fanposted 4 years ago

   Am I the only one seeing a fairly significant drop in earnings from Sunday, 9/20 to Monday, 9/21?  My traffic stayed relatively the same during the same time.

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      theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. Fell off a cliff.

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      sallybeaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      No, this has not been my experience.  CPM has been very good.

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      NateB11posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I'm experiencing the same thing, terrible traffic and earnings down. I compared it to last year and it's even down from what it was back then.

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         hclpdposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Cam confirm. It's terrible overall. The traffic and earnings seem to have fallen off a cliff. I see blue arrows everywhere. For some reason, I've lost over 20% of my traffic in the last few days.

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      samanthacubbisonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Hi everyone. Our team is on it—we apologize for concerns around content performance and earnings. Our team is actively working through several technical issues and our ads team is aware of the situation as well. We are working to resolve this ASAP.

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         Glimmer Twin Fanposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Samantha!

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            samanthacubbisonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I'm really sorry that you're experiencing this. Thank you for your understanding.

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         Maffew Jamesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Samantha,
         
         Thanks for the update.
         
         There seems to be some problems with ads not showing at the moment which is likely causing the sudden and massive drops to earnings. Solaras reported here that she wasn't seeing ads on her articles.
         
         I see ads on articles but if I swap my location to the US by VPN they're completely missing with nothing to indicate they should be there but some strange paragraph spacing where the in-content ads would have been. UK has white spaces where ads should be with no ads in those spaces, but that's an ongoing and known issue already. Some countries show ads. A lot only show the mobile footer ad and none of the in-content ads where the paragraph spacing shows where they likely should have been.
         
         I checked with 2 different VPNs on 2 different migrated network sites for this to the same result, but only on mobile though. Didn't bother to check desktop since it's a much smaller portion of traffic anyway. There may be issues with both or it may be just mobile views.
         
         I've informed the team via email but with how busy the moderation team is it might not be seen for a while so I'm posting this here too in case it's helpful to working out what's wrong with the ads.

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            samanthacubbisonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, we are aware of this issue. Thank you for posting!

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         AdeleCosgroveBrayposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for responding to this thread. Here's hoping the issues are fixed soon.

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   DrMark1961posted 4 years ago

   No, I just looked and saw it too. A 20% drop in CPM overnight. This happens at the beginning of a new period, which this is not, and that drop certainly makes no sense considering that the articles are now covered in all sorts of ads.

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   Shesabutterflyposted 4 years ago

   All of September my cpm's have been up and down. I'm not seeing anything lower than I've seen a few days ago.
   
   That said, I'm earning significantly less (and my cpm's on average are lower) this September than the last two years for the same time period.

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   lobobrandonposted 4 years ago

   I see a 20 - 25% drop on this day compared to the past week, but the amount is not unusual for my content at this time of the year. The sudden drop is weird though.

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   JerryFisherposted 4 years ago

   I don't like these changes at all. On Google I counted 23 ads down one of my articles, apart from the humungous distracting video at the top. And how come on an auto site I get ads for underpants and bad breath?
   This one article has now slipped from page two on Google to not to be found for its two keywords at all in the first 20 pages.
   My bet is that Google hate ad stuffing as much as they hate keyword stuffing.
   I'd really like to know from others if they've lost google ranking through this update.
   Hubpages used to be a worthy partner. We'd get half the revenue and 100% of the Amazon earnings. Great back in the days when Amazon were giving 8%. 100% of 8% was a real incentive to get writing. I can't blame Maven for Amazon's reduction to 3% but now 60% of 3% is barely worth the effort.
   But what's worse is that now with this ad stuffing, there's no longer a reader experience involved as they have to carefully trip between paragraphs so they don't click on an ad. Plus what takes up to 20% of the page is the Maven footer full of suggestions of alternative articles to read. Even I fell for one, so immediately leaving my own article behind.

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      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      We have never gotten 100% of Amazon earnings.  It used to be that we got 100% of the earnings from 60% of the views, but that still ends up at only 60% of the total earnings.  Exactly what we get today, given that with small numbers of purchases it could vary some (either way) from that 60%.
      
      On the other hand, we used to be paid according to the rate schedule from Amazon, which meant that unless you were a very large player with Amazon you never came close to that 8% commission.  HP changed that, managing to get Amazon to agree that everything from HP was to be considered one source, producing that maximum amount in the first couple of days each month.

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         JerryFisherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         You could be right about this. I’ve been an affiliate with Amazon for a decade or more with websites other than Hubpages so presumed all earnings were all at the higher level. I’ve never looked to see the breakdown.

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   AdeleCosgroveBrayposted 4 years ago

   My income is down by approximately three-quarters of it's usual average.
   
   Surely Maven has noticed the drop in its own income? The site was doing well before they started tinkering with changes and consequently caused problems. The new pages look badly designed, with too many adverts, (which bores readers and encourages them to close down the page), a removal of links to the author's other articles and profile, erratic paragraph spacing, etc.
   
   An explanation from Maven would be welcome.

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      DrMark1961posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I doubt that HP/Maven is feeling any loss of income at this point. The pages are covered in ads and that leads to more income. They will probably not notice the fall in rankings/loss of traffic until it affects their income, at which time it may be too late to fix.
      Eugene (eugbug) tried to contact Maven about this. They bounced it back to HP and said it is not their issue.

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   viryaboposted 4 years ago

   I always notice that when my page views rise, my CPM crashes. ALWAYS!
   
   Strange.

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      Sherry Hposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Always! I agree.

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         hclpdposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I concur.

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   Solarasposted 4 years ago

   So I checked out my article on probiotics for dogs, and there are no - zero ads showing on it??? No big video, no ads whatsoever. I have never had an ad blocker installed.  I checked on Cuteness.com and I can see their ads.
   
   That might explain a drop in earnings.

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      sallybeaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      None of my articles have Ads, still no fix forthcoming either.  It is somewhat frustrating.

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      Shesabutterflyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I'm in the US and after I updated my computer system a few days ago, I am having trouble viewing ads on my computer across all niche sites. Ads are not showing up in the body of articles and the ones that are suppose to be in the right margin and above the related article section are hit and miss. I am seeing them okay on my mobile, atleast for now.
      
      I would email the team about that article. I looked on my mobile and could not see ads on that specific article either. Nothing that even indicated there should be ads within the article. No large white spaces or grey bars like I have seen people post about in previous forum posts.

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         Solarasposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for taking a look - I will email them.

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   eugbugposted 4 years ago

   Yes, 20% down, but maybe it was a one off drop. I've seen similar drops before that only lasted a day.

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    Jodahposted 4 years ago

    My earnings had been increasing steadily for the last six months, but this month looks to be down by around 25% on the average over that time, unless it picks up in this last week.

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    Larry Slawsonposted 4 years ago

    Before September, my earnings were great.  This month has been terrible though.  I've seen a major drop in both earnings and traffic.  My best performing articles are garnering less than half their normal traffic (in comparison to this time last year).  Its a bit frustrating, to say the least.  Really hoping that things pick up again.

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    theraggededgeposted 4 years ago

    Dear goodness... my earnings are dropping like a dead cat off a pergola now that my main network site has migrated.
    
    It's almost as if HP is committing suicide.
    
    [goes to make sure all articles are backed-up]

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       greenmindposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Yes me too CPM suddenly half what it was.

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    Rupert Taylorposted 4 years ago

    Traffic up. Earnings collapse. Only conclusion? It's being run by a government committee.

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    Solarasposted 4 years ago

    FYI: I am seeing ads on that article now.  Thanks for the attention on it.

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       samanthacubbisonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Oh, sweet!

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          sallybeaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Wish I were, no video or ads!  https://feltmagnet.com/textiles-sewing/ … e-Tutorial

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             samanthacubbisonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

             I believe that Solaras in the US. We still haven't found a fix for the EU.

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                sallybeaposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks Samantha, good to receive some feedback regarding the EU ads.  Have a great week-end.

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    Solarasposted 4 years ago

    How do you edit a published hub on Pethelpful?  Is the edit button hiding behind the video?

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       OldRosesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       I think that you have to go to your Statistics page and click on the "View on HubPages" red text to edit.

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    Anita lesicposted 4 years ago

    Hi. Some of my hubs were transferred to Letterpile and right now I don't have any profit from that site and I have less views on my articles(because of that website)!

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       theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, Letterpile is where creative writing and poetry goes to die

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