Vocabulary

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  1. Eric Caunca profile image95
    Eric Cauncaposted 2 years ago

    Hi, hubbers.

    I have a question about terminology.
    What do you call when you look at a photo that looks ordinary but when you stare at it, you see another image. For instance, when you look at a painting you see no horse on it, but when you stare you see an image of a horse? Is it called depiction, discernment, perception, recognition, or what? Thank you.

    1. Misbah786 profile image85
      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Eric, it’s Optical illusion like this one

      https://hubstatic.com/15479409.jpg

      Blessings

      1. Eric Caunca profile image95
        Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you, Misbah but I am not asking for optical illusion. For sentence example,

        https://hubstatic.com/15479417.jpg

        In this abstract painting, Eric (depicts? discerns?) an image of a white elephant.

        1. Misbah786 profile image85
          Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          I can see an animal in it, but can't resemble it to  an elephant .. lol

          https://hubstatic.com/15479427.jpg

          Abstract are like this one

          1. Eric Caunca profile image95
            Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I know it. big_smile big_smile, but I no longer search for a more beautiful abstract art. big_smile big_smile

        2. bravewarrior profile image88
          bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Eric, if you are the artist, you "depict" the image (active verb). As the viewer, you "discern" it (passive verb).

          Does this answer your question?

          1. Eric Caunca profile image95
            Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, that's what I am asking. Thank you, Shaunna. smile

            1. theraggededge profile image96
              theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              There's a really useful online thesaurus to help you find the right word. I use it all the time.

              https://onelook.com/

              So put in the nearest word you can think of - maybe 'see'? Then you can play around with it until you get to the one which fits best. You can lightly click on words for the definition or hard click to open up their synonyms.

              But, yes, I'd go with 'discern'. Or, depending on context, 'perceive'.

              1. Eric Caunca profile image95
                Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                There are buttons for it. Thank you, Bev. smile

                https://hubstatic.com/15479525.jpg

            2. bravewarrior profile image88
              bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              Glad I could be of help, Eric. Discern means to perceive or recognize. Again, it's a passive verb.

              1. Eric Caunca profile image95
                Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Thank you, Shauna

  2. Eric Caunca profile image95
    Eric Cauncaposted 2 years ago

    So the term for it is just "see"? big_smile big_smile

    1. Misbah786 profile image85
      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Let me check it for you big_smile

    2. Misbah786 profile image85
      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Will this work it is illustration


      https://hubstatic.com/15479443_f1024.jpg

  3. eugbug profile image96
    eugbugposted 2 years ago

    I think there's a specific term for this, let me investigate.


    Edit: Ambiguous, bi-stable images?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_vase

  4. eugbug profile image96
    eugbugposted 2 years ago

    On the subject of optical illusions, this is the shadow checker illusion. Squares A and B are the same shade of grey. If you don't believe me, save the image, cut out the squares and place side by side.
    https://hubstatic.com/15479521.jpg

    1. bravewarrior profile image88
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Eugene, he's not talking about optical illusions. He's talking about seeing images within images.

      My brother is an artist (who's also color blind) and he does this quite often. It has nothing to do with optical illusion. It has to do with the viewer REALLY looking at the artwork. My brother will often create images within water, or folds in clothing, or whatever strikes him. Those not-so-obvious images help tell the story of the piece.

      Artists are story-tellers. It takes the observer to find them.

      1. eugbug profile image96
        eugbugposted 2 years agoin reply to this

        I know, see my earlier post. They're called  ambiguous, bi-stable images. Like the Rubin vase. Not sure if that's exactly what Eric means. The brain's process of making out what's in images in general is called visual perception.

        1. bravewarrior profile image88
          bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          That isn't what he's talking about, Eugene. Here are a couple of my brother's paintings. If you look closely, you'll see images within the main image, but you have to look closely.

          https://hubstatic.com/15479555.jpg

          Here's the same painting, but I've zoomed in on the hidden picture:



          https://hubstatic.com/15479556.jpg

          And here's another. Do you see an entity behind the focus of the painting?



          https://hubstatic.com/15479557_f1024.jpg

          1. Misbah786 profile image85
            Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Shauna, The last one is so beautiful but this is abstract, right?

            1. bravewarrior profile image88
              bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              It depends on how you see, it, Misbah. When my brother first sent the draft to me, I was mesmerized by the colors and the sad story I perceived. I saw the angel behind the woman who was bound by the chains of her heart and wanted to buy it from him. He and I both struggled as to what to name this particular painting. (He gives all of his work a title, based on the story behind them.) We struggled and struggled and suddenly, she flew herself off the window sill where he had her perched, and several other of his paintings that were already firmly planted on the wall, flew off as well. He became spooked. His take is that she doesn't want to be named. After about a year, she's calmed down and now graces one of my brother's walls.

              My brother and I are part Cherokee Indian. He has much more of the spirit than do I. She spoke to him and he listened. She's now happy, sharing space with my brother. She doesn't belong anywhere but where she is.

              1. Misbah786 profile image85
                Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Shauna,
                What a beautiful relationship your brother have with his arts, I am amazed
                Thanks for sharing
                Blessings. smile

                1. bravewarrior profile image88
                  bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Misbah, my brother is a beautiful soul. Thanks for recognizing that.

                  1. Misbah786 profile image85
                    Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                    Surely, he is
                    God bless both of you smile

          2. eugbug profile image96
            eugbugposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            So are the images deliberately setup, or in the eye of the beholder like in the case of the Rorschach test?

            1. bravewarrior profile image88
              bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              In my brother's case, Eugene, they're a part of the story he tells as he paints. He never knows what the outcome will be. His muse guides him. His stronghold on our Cherokee heritage has a very solid guide to his hand. It's hard to explain, but nothing he paints is deliberate. He gets a "vision" and goes with it.

              The few exceptions are when he's commissioned to paint something specific, such as a portrait of someone's dog.

          3. Eric Caunca profile image95
            Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            The painting is beautiful. Why don't you write an article about it?

  5. theraggededge profile image96
    theraggededgeposted 2 years ago

    And Eric was asking which word best described the act of seeing, recognising, perceiving such a 'hidden' image. Not what the images are called.

    1. bravewarrior profile image88
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly, Bev. There is no word for it.

    2. Eric Caunca profile image95
      Eric Cauncaposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, that's what I'm asking. Thanks, Bev and Eugene.

  6. manatita44 profile image80
    manatita44posted 2 years ago

    It is your perception. In the words you have chosen, it is the closest, but perception applies to so many things! It is a personal experience for us and perhaps you can call it just that --an experience that you're having, in and through the painting.

    1. bravewarrior profile image88
      bravewarriorposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Precisely, Manatita. That's why there is no name for this type of art. Art is subjective. It is a personal experience. When artists embed images within images, they are giving a part of their soul that only the enlightened can see. You have to look beyond the obvious.

  7. Kenna McHugh profile image88
    Kenna McHughposted 2 years ago

    What you see is what you get. smile

    Beth, thanks for the link to OneLook. It's nice!!!

  8. Eric Caunca profile image95
    Eric Cauncaposted 2 years ago

    This would be the sentence that I want to write. I would like an interrogative sentence for it. This the flag of Ukraine. It represents a wheat field under the sky.

    https://hubstatic.com/15477091.png


    https://hubstatic.com/15477065_f1024.jpg


    Do you ‘discern’ an image of the wheat field under the sky? 
    Is this correct? Thank you. smile

    1. theraggededge profile image96
      theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, without the quotes and 'image' smile And with the indefinite article.

      So, I would write it thus:

      Do you discern a wheat field under the sky?

      Actually, I'd probably use 'see'. Shorter is nearly always better.

      Or even, if you want to get poetical, 'Does the flag remind you of a golden wheat field under a bright blue sky?

  9. Eric Caunca profile image95
    Eric Cauncaposted 2 years ago

    Thanks, Bev. I would choose the poetical one. Thank you smile

 
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