If you are looking for a steady stream of cash, this is not the place for you. With a lot of effort, you can make some money, but we are not talking by writimg a few articles. However, if you enjoy writing, want to interact with a community, and like the flevibility of writing what you want, this can be an enjoyable place to post articles. The community is helpful if you want to hone your writing. A lot also depends on you area of expertise and the competency of your writing.
Several people make four figures and more, but they are rarities and work very hard.
There's nothing passive about it though
If you are willing to put in the work it is absolutely worth it.
If you are hoping for easy money you will probably be disappointed.
You have to have a disciplined, industrious, and slightly mercenary approach, rather like you were doing a job, to stand a chance of making money on any sort of significant level. Earning the equivalent of a part-time cleaner is an achievement. If you write an occasional poem, or articles about your favorite pop band, best-selling author, or political views, you will have fun, but probably won't make much.
Everyone has their own agenda as to what level of success they wish to achieve. I, for example, do it part-time and earn a decent monthly payment for my effort. Some people do it just for fun and don’t care to earn much. That’s okay too. Then there are those who work full time on their writing. You never hear from them since they are focused on their work.
If you understand that you earn money by conducting a business, you can indeed make good money writing on HubPages. But keep in mind that you need to think of it as a business continually.
That means working full time, eight hours a day, researching topics you write, studying SEO, keeping abreast of rules and changes required for curation, and so on.
If you can do all that, and follow what everyone else said in this thread, then you can do quite well.
I just made $4300 on Medium this month. I have never done that on HP.
You just made me laugh.
Seriously, I would start writing more on Hubpages if it wasn't so difficult to get onto niche sites. It has got one advantage over Medium, and that is that it is definitely passive income.
Medium is based on a magazine/news formula, not so much passive income unless you have distributed articles.
It's picking up for me. And the key is definitely to write most days.
Well, yes, I do agree that the more you write, the more certain one is of getting picked for a niche site. I guess I just don't have it in me to write, to spend hours making sure I've written to a good standard, only to find it rejected without any explanation of what it is.
On Medium, certainly, I won't always get selected for distribution, but my stuff is still published.
Medium, I meant.
I don't write many HP articles nowadays.
Thanks for the detailed info. It seems to confirm what I thought. They've changed their business plan and they're pumping money in. It will either work out or it won't. The tap could be potentially turned off at any time, but it sounds like it might be worthwhile trying as an additional income stream.
Yes, you're right. The tap can be turned off at anytime.I have been workign on content sites since about 1999, and I have long lost track of the number of sites I have worked on. All of them peak and then fall.
And it really is luck that one was there at the right time to catch the wave.
Alas! We can't work for Medium while living in Pakistan.
I gave Medium a try but without a "following" to promote to it feels like you need to get promoted (whatever the term is) to have any hope of success, and what I was writing clearly wasn't to any of their tastes
The algorithm changed about 2 months ago. The editorial staff of all the topical magazines were fired. Instead Ev Williams said they would be investingin writers, and this is definitely happening. There's been a downward swing for some writers and an upswing with other writers.
Medium is now looking for writers that entertain, make people think, provide solid information, etc. They switched policies.
There is a type of formatting you have to follow. If you don't follow it, the bots kick it out, and your piece won't be up for distribution. Once your piece is chosen for distribution, it is offered continually to people.
If you give me your name on Medium, I'll take a look at your stuff. I'll give a reply under one of your articles there. The last one. Alternatively, if you contact me via hubpges, I will tell you what needs to be done if I have your email address.
It took me a year to build up to 600 people, and then in three weeks, i reached 1700 people. That's how much the algorith has changed.
Also, for the past two months, I've won $500 for being one of the top 1000 writers on Medium (I wouldn't take that too seriously).
I started a couple publications and I noticed an option to upload a logo or cover photo (I believe) and a note on it (I believe) that you have to have a cover image or logo, with the name of the publication, to be featured somewhere on the site. It was at least a week ago when I went through all that so I'm not sure I'm retelling it correctly. At any rate, I didn't do any of it because I felt it would take more time than I was willing to devote at the time. Do you know anything about this? Is it necessary to have a logo or cover photo for a publication or articles to do well?
I have no idea. I do know (and it took me three of four months initially to figure this out) that anything that is not formatted to their standards is not distributed.
They don't distribute magazines. They distribute articles. What that means is that when you write a story, if they like it, they will then keep circulating it until readership dies. I have articles that were distributed a year ago, and it is still getting readers.
I also have to say that I dont' understand how Medium figures out what to pay you. My income still seems to be coming from one article, and when that goes, I will be back to earning about $600 per month.
Yesterday, I had 407 reads but made $91 on that. That doesn't even begin to make sense, except that if someone pays for membership ($50 per year) and you were the first one added, they give you $2.50 or something.
I would suggest fixing up your magazine. If you don't know how to do the artwork, I have written several tutorials about Paintnet, and Paintnet is a free download. It is a required skill for writers these days.
Then focus on writing longish style, very detailed articles about topics that are current but also have an evergreen life. Not easy, but doable.
The magazine can just be where you put all your writings or topic specific.
Interesting. I took my posts down from Medium about 3 months ago with the intention of rewriting them for HP (haven't done it yet), maybe I was a bit hasty.
I'll crack open my account and take a look around. Get some content up there. Thanks!
Yup. As I said, they changed their policy and algorithm about two months ago.
Oh, we got burned. It's a spammer. I did wonder when there were no articles on the profile.
All these forum links are nofollow. Are they really still that worthwhile?
And even if some of us click on them out of curiosity, how much traffic can that be?
You have to wonder. After all they have to go to the effort to join up, find the forum, copy and paste (twice). And then experience an energetic wave of disdain... because everyone hates a spammer
"Burned on Craigslist; banned by HubPages".
I would never take a chance clicking links that are from obvious spammers just for curiosity. It’s not worth taking a chance of getting malware installed by visiting these sites.
Such a weird generic post from OP, was pretty suspicious, though I wasn't sure at first because some people post simplistic questions like that.
I think I'm going to take a break from the forums, the repetition and nonsense is getting wearing. But of course, as soon as I do that, there will be an official announcement of earth-shattering importance that requires immediate action, and Paul E will pop up with an in-depth analysis of all the latest algo changes, along with a list of which hub types work best nowadays!
You are right Paul. I changed my setting to allow new submissions to show on my feed. I am astounded at the deluge of terrible offerings in mangled English almost all from the Indian sub-continent.
I started to offer advice but then realized there are more than a billion people in the region. Helping them would be a lifetime's work and being in my late 70s there's not that much lifetime left.
Also, the repetitious questions are a bit tiresome: What does the Hub score mean? When is payout?
Well quite a few of us do not need that training. So the number is a lot lower than a billion But I wouldn't waste my time either.
Rupert, I have seen you trying hard and I really appreciate your efforts.
To treat the cancer we need to know where it is actually located. A lot of us have already figured it out. It’s on YouTube
Let’s try to remove those videos from YouTube to clean our platform
I've tried. Reported it to YouTube, but they don't bother.
Maybe the best thing to do is just ignore the posts. One day HP may implement some kind of test to pick up the low-quality writers when they join. Then they won't need to waste their time (or ours).
The irony though is that when the technology exists that can detect the bad translations, it also effectively means that technology exists that can identify bad translations and correct them. Then the real writers are done for!
We can't stop everyone from posting threads. The safe option is to ignore them all instead of wasting time by answering their posts.
Every newbie will ask questions. Those who are annoyed should not bother to answer the questions.
Stay safe and healthy...
This comment ^ is funny too, it's a copy of one of my comments above. This is an indication of a scammer too, they just copy another post or comment. Makes me think it's automated.
Lol! the user just joined 28 hours ago
Don't you people dare to limit their enthusiasm. They're the ones who make us laugh...
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