It's a Punctuation Issue

Jump to Last Post 1-5 of 5 discussions (26 posts)
  1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
    Miebakagh57posted 2 years ago

    Has any experienced this? It's a punctuation issue. Which should we use? British or America? I'm at home with the British model from childhood.
    But getting online on HubPages, we meet the American standard.
    Seriously a problem arose when I used an online editing software called Grammarly.
    The cross-road is which punctuation sign to use for a quotation mark? Should we use the British or the American standard?
    It's okay that one uses either the British or the American rule. But a writer like me used the British type. Now, when that is being done, Grammarly always intervened to counter-act in the processes. It can't differentiate between the British('...') and the American("..."). For example, if I quote: 'Seriously a problem arose when I used an online editing software called Grammarly.' Grammarly will reject the last sign(') of the quotation mark. But Should I use the American usage, that would be fine?
    So the question now is: is it okay to use both standards jointly or interchangeably? Does not Hubpages frown at such? Is there a better grammar checker that allows either use of the British or the American mark only? Good questions, right?

    1. Nathanville profile image92
      Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Good question. 

      Whatever you choose, you should be consistent and not mix.

      I'm British so I make a point of using British Spelling and Grammar. 

      What I do is wrote everything in MS Word on my computer first, which I've got set to use British English, and then when satisfied copy and paste it on line. 

      If you don't have MS Word, due to MS being forced by the courts to share their code, there are now some good free software on line, that's compatible with MS Word, and almost as good.  When I get a moment I'll double check on which one I use on the laptop.

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
        Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Okay, I'll expect your submission first. Thanks Arthur, thanks.

        1. Nathanville profile image92
          Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          For clarity I do use MS Office 2010 on our main computer; a student edition that we got cheaply when our son was a university student.

          But for my wife’s laptop I installed LibraOffice; which is almost as good, and in some ways better – and it’s FREE.

          See Wikipedia for further information:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice

          Free Download from the official website:-  https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/

          1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
            Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Arthur. Will go for it. And sorry for the late response at my end side.                                       Seriously, I was busy reviewing and editing a new article. I've publish same.

            1. CHRIS57 profile image61
              CHRIS57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

              Interesting, i have been using libreoffice for my everyday work after MS started its 365 day Office licensing.

              Works fine, however is is not that smooth in interacting with other office suite features from MS, especially Outlook and deep dive macro-programming (LaTeX).
              Libreoffice is good for a single workplace, but not very comfortable for workgroups and shared data.

              But i think this is counting peas, so for most of us it should work fine.

              1. Nathanville profile image92
                Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah, we only use LibreOffice for a single workplace e.g. my wife's laptop, and we've had no problems with transferring (Sharing) documents between it and MS Word on our main computer.

                Currently we're still using the MS Office 2010 version on the main computer; and for as long as that is working fine we will stick with it.  But if for any reason in the future we had to install the latest 365 day Office Licensing version then I wouldn't, I would download the free LibreOffice instead.

                1. tsmog profile image85
                  tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  I, too, have MS Office 2010. Love it, though recently have had a problem with two or more Excel workbooks open causing a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). Though it is suppose to be because of a driver issue with my video card it 'only' happens with Excel. So, I'm off on a computer adventure later this month. One concern I have is Office 2010 MS support ended 2020.

                  I have twenty years worth of Excel, Word, and Outlook emails, so would be hesitant to switch to LibreOffice. Yeah, I hoard information ha-ha That was from years of stuff at work. And,Yes, never heard of OfficeLibre until this thread. I, don't want to switch to 365 mainly because of the cost and I don't understand if my documents would be shared on Cloud, which today I have a trust issue with. Like you Office 2010 functions just fine, am not worried about security updates, so will continue using it.

                  1. Nathanville profile image92
                    Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                    The good news is that LibreOffice can read MS Documents, so you shouldn't have any problems swapping over.  If you're hesitant then you could always download LibreOffice and give it a try; it's FREE, so nothing lost if you don't like it.

                    What we do when saving documents in LibreOffice is to opt to save them in MS format so that they are universally readable on any system the world over.

                  2. eugbug profile image96
                    eugbugposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                    Check your hard disk with Crystal Disk Info. Last year I had lots of problems with BSOD and Windows files getting corrupted and different Windows programs stopping working. I discovered I had a number of physical bad sectors on my hard drive which were slowly increasing every few weeks I had installed Windows updates also during the year. So I'm not sure whether the updates or a deteriorating disk were causing the problems and corruption of Windows files. I had to reinstall and repair Windows multiple times but eventually decided to replace the hard drive with an SSD which has really speeded up my system. Boots in about 20 seconds too and I haven't had any problems since.

          2. Miebakagh57 profile image70
            Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Many thanks Arthur. Just make a shot at it. I've download and instal the stuff. It'smany great features is without parallel.

            I'll now began to use it for writing articles.

            1. Nathanville profile image92
              Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

              Cool.

    2. CHRIS57 profile image61
      CHRIS57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Never thought about this.
      Of course i am aware of the differences between British and American spelling, vocabulary and grammar. And i admit, i am not always firm on punctuation.

      I do my writing without any correction software. Like Arthur i don´t use Bill Gates software. And i do my writing in multiple languages. What good would Grammarly do for German or Russian.

      I am already confused enough by the word propositions on my smartphone.

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
        Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Chriss57, thanks for chipping in.                                      Like you, I'm at home on the difference between the British and Americn English, punctuation and spelling. But not slangs and grammar.                                       Well, I'm waitting for Arthur to wade in with the best  MS Word text format...and by the way, I hope that lady who few months ago query for being headmaster of American Englirh is not lurking around?

  2. Misbah786 profile image86
    Misbah786posted 2 years ago

    I think it's best to use American style because HubPages is an American site, but when I talk about myself, I use both interchangeably. I don't think it makes much difference as both are the writing styles of the English language. smile


    See this forum discussion by Kyler J Falk. We discussed a similar issue there. You may find it helpful. smile


    https://hubpages.com/community/forum/35 … trict-rule

    Good Luck!!!

    1. Nathanville profile image92
      Nathanvilleposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Sometime In one of their update notifications HubPages did state quite clearly that it should be up to the author to decide which version of English they used in their articles e.g. American English or British English, and that should be respected by all.

      Coincidently that was a little while after I’d complained to HubPages that their authors were changing my articles from British English to American English on edit; since then that hasn’t happened.

      1. Misbah786 profile image86
        Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        I see. I don't mind editors making small edits but I despise it when they snip my text and images for no special reason. smile

    2. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Mizbah. I was in that 'freezy' forum that drove(r) you nuts. It can't help me here. The thing here is that its about uring either the  British or America punctuation mark.

      1. Misbah786 profile image86
        Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

        Lol! Yes, you were there with that amazing term. big_smile


        See John's reply on that forum. It's helpful in my opinion :

        https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4193192

  3. theraggededge profile image96
    theraggededgeposted 2 years ago

    In the UK, we use both types. Especially when including a quote inside speech. Or speech within speech.

    Wiki gives an example here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation … in_English

    'The lunch lady plopped a glob of "food" onto my tray.'

    'Hal said, "Good morning, Dave"', recalled Frank.

    1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Bev, good morning. I learnt that in my English class. Thanks.

  4. Miebakagh57 profile image70
    Miebakagh57posted 2 years ago

    Okay.

  5. Miebakagh57 profile image70
    Miebakagh57posted 2 years ago

    Okay, will do it at an appropriate time. Thanks for chipping in.

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)