It's a Punctuation Issue

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   Miebakagh57posted 14 months ago

   Has any experienced this? It's a punctuation issue. Which should we use? British or America? I'm at home with the British model from childhood.
   But getting online on HubPages, we meet the American standard.
   Seriously a problem arose when I used an online editing software called Grammarly.
   The cross-road is which punctuation sign to use for a quotation mark? Should we use the British or the American standard?
   It's okay that one uses either the British or the American rule. But a writer like me used the British type. Now, when that is being done, Grammarly always intervened to counter-act in the processes. It can't differentiate between the British('...') and the American("..."). For example, if I quote: 'Seriously a problem arose when I used an online editing software called Grammarly.' Grammarly will reject the last sign(') of the quotation mark. But Should I use the American usage, that would be fine?
   So the question now is: is it okay to use both standards jointly or interchangeably? Does not Hubpages frown at such? Is there a better grammar checker that allows either use of the British or the American mark only? Good questions, right?

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      Nathanvilleposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Good question. 
      
      Whatever you choose, you should be consistent and not mix.
      
      I'm British so I make a point of using British Spelling and Grammar. 
      
      What I do is wrote everything in MS Word on my computer first, which I've got set to use British English, and then when satisfied copy and paste it on line. 
      
      If you don't have MS Word, due to MS being forced by the courts to share their code, there are now some good free software on line, that's compatible with MS Word, and almost as good.  When I get a moment I'll double check on which one I use on the laptop.

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         Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Okay, I'll expect your submission first. Thanks Arthur, thanks.

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            Nathanvilleposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            For clarity I do use MS Office 2010 on our main computer; a student edition that we got cheaply when our son was a university student.
            
            But for my wife’s laptop I installed LibraOffice; which is almost as good, and in some ways better – and it’s FREE.
            
            See Wikipedia for further information:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
            
            Free Download from the official website:-  https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/

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               Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

               Thanks Arthur. Will go for it. And sorry for the late response at my end side.                                       Seriously, I was busy reviewing and editing a new article. I've publish same.

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                  CHRIS57posted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  Interesting, i have been using libreoffice for my everyday work after MS started its 365 day Office licensing.
                  
                  Works fine, however is is not that smooth in interacting with other office suite features from MS, especially Outlook and deep dive macro-programming (LaTeX).
                  Libreoffice is good for a single workplace, but not very comfortable for workgroups and shared data.
                  
                  But i think this is counting peas, so for most of us it should work fine.

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                     Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                     Yeah, we only use LibreOffice for a single workplace e.g. my wife's laptop, and we've had no problems with transferring (Sharing) documents between it and MS Word on our main computer.
                     
                     Currently we're still using the MS Office 2010 version on the main computer; and for as long as that is working fine we will stick with it.  But if for any reason in the future we had to install the latest 365 day Office Licensing version then I wouldn't, I would download the free LibreOffice instead.

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                        tsmogposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                        I, too, have MS Office 2010. Love it, though recently have had a problem with two or more Excel workbooks open causing a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). Though it is suppose to be because of a driver issue with my video card it 'only' happens with Excel. So, I'm off on a computer adventure later this month. One concern I have is Office 2010 MS support ended 2020.
                        
                        I have twenty years worth of Excel, Word, and Outlook emails, so would be hesitant to switch to LibreOffice. Yeah, I hoard information ha-ha That was from years of stuff at work. And,Yes, never heard of OfficeLibre until this thread. I, don't want to switch to 365 mainly because of the cost and I don't understand if my documents would be shared on Cloud, which today I have a trust issue with. Like you Office 2010 functions just fine, am not worried about security updates, so will continue using it.

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                           Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                           The good news is that LibreOffice can read MS Documents, so you shouldn't have any problems swapping over.  If you're hesitant then you could always download LibreOffice and give it a try; it's FREE, so nothing lost if you don't like it.
                           
                           What we do when saving documents in LibreOffice is to opt to save them in MS format so that they are universally readable on any system the world over.

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                              tsmogposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                              Thanks Nathan! After my future computer adventure I will look more in depth at OfficeLibre. Yet, as you today I am happy with Office 2010 suiting my needs. I like that said I could save in MS format. I will head over to their site to explore later today.

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                                 Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                                 Cool, you'll have to give your feedback once you've browsed their website.

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                           eugbugposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                           Check your hard disk with Crystal Disk Info. Last year I had lots of problems with BSOD and Windows files getting corrupted and different Windows programs stopping working. I discovered I had a number of physical bad sectors on my hard drive which were slowly increasing every few weeks I had installed Windows updates also during the year. So I'm not sure whether the updates or a deteriorating disk were causing the problems and corruption of Windows files. I had to reinstall and repair Windows multiple times but eventually decided to replace the hard drive with an SSD which has really speeded up my system. Boots in about 20 seconds too and I haven't had any problems since.

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                              tsmogposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                              Thanks for your info on your experience! I have had over twenty of those dastardly BSOD's always set off by the same circumstance and according to Who Crashed, which analyzes the BSOD mini-dump files it is the video card driver or hardware itself. My Windows 10 is a 32 bit system today. And, I uninstalled the video card driver and reinstalled it to no avail.
                              
                              Unfortunately the manufacturer of the video card, Nividia, has not updated a 32bit system driver since 2018 and stopped supporting 32 bit system. The only way to get an updated current driver is for me to upgrade to a 64bit system. Thus, the computer adventure for me in the future to upgrade to it. I need to anyway.
                              
                              Plus, if it is related to memory I will add 8 GB. Besides a 32 bit system only utilizes 4 GB. Hopefully with the upgrade to 64bit system and a 64bit driver more current it will be resolved. Other wise I will just live with it only opening one Excel document at a time while pondering if to invest in a new video card.

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               Miebakagh57posted 13 months agoin reply to this

               Many thanks Arthur. Just make a shot at it. I've download and instal the stuff. It'smany great features is without parallel.
               
               I'll now began to use it for writing articles.

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                  Nathanvilleposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  Cool.

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      CHRIS57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Never thought about this.
      Of course i am aware of the differences between British and American spelling, vocabulary and grammar. And i admit, i am not always firm on punctuation.
      
      I do my writing without any correction software. Like Arthur i don´t use Bill Gates software. And i do my writing in multiple languages. What good would Grammarly do for German or Russian.
      
      I am already confused enough by the word propositions on my smartphone.

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         Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Chriss57, thanks for chipping in.                                      Like you, I'm at home on the difference between the British and Americn English, punctuation and spelling. But not slangs and grammar.                                       Well, I'm waitting for Arthur to wade in with the best  MS Word text format...and by the way, I hope that lady who few months ago query for being headmaster of American Englirh is not lurking around?

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   Misbah786posted 14 months ago

   I think it's best to use American style because HubPages is an American site, but when I talk about myself, I use both interchangeably. I don't think it makes much difference as both are the writing styles of the English language.
   
   
   See this forum discussion by Kyler J Falk. We discussed a similar issue there. You may find it helpful.
   
   
   https://hubpages.com/community/forum/35 … trict-rule
   
   Good Luck!!!

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      Nathanvilleposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Sometime In one of their update notifications HubPages did state quite clearly that it should be up to the author to decide which version of English they used in their articles e.g. American English or British English, and that should be respected by all.
      
      Coincidently that was a little while after I’d complained to HubPages that their authors were changing my articles from British English to American English on edit; since then that hasn’t happened.

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         Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

         I see. I don't mind editors making small edits but I despise it when they snip my text and images for no special reason.

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      Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, Mizbah. I was in that 'freezy' forum that drove(r) you nuts. It can't help me here. The thing here is that its about uring either the  British or America punctuation mark.

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         Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

         Lol! Yes, you were there with that amazing term.
         
         
         See John's reply on that forum. It's helpful in my opinion :
         
         https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4193192

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   theraggededgeposted 14 months ago

   In the UK, we use both types. Especially when including a quote inside speech. Or speech within speech.
   
   Wiki gives an example here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation … in_English
   
   'The lunch lady plopped a glob of "food" onto my tray.'
   
   'Hal said, "Good morning, Dave"', recalled Frank.

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      Miebakagh57posted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Bev, good morning. I learnt that in my English class. Thanks.

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   Miebakagh57posted 13 months ago

   Okay.

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   Miebakagh57posted 13 months ago

   Okay, will do it at an appropriate time. Thanks for chipping in.

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