How many backlinks does it take?

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   easyspeakposted 14 years ago

   I know it fluctuates depending on a billion variables...but for you hubbers here who are making decent money, how many backlinks do you create for each hub.  Please specify between social bookmarkting, article marketing on directories like ezine, blogging and commenting on blogs.
   
   Thanks!

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   I barely create any, and I earn a pretty decent wage off Hubpages.

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      easyspeakposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You barely create any backlinks?  what?  Then how do you make a pretty decent wage?

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         skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You don't have to create tons of backlinks to earn. You need traffic. Backlinking is just way to get some+appear in results. If you pitch your content and drive traffic then that is all you need to earn.

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      blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am with Sherbet I haven't yet created back-links and am also earning a nice little egg as well.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Theres plenty of other SEO techniques, Backlinking does affect your SERPS but it is not the only factor.
   
   I am not saying backlinking is not important, but don't spend so much time backlinking that you forget about everything else!

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      easyspeakposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What else?  okay, other than the normal keyword stuff.

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         thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Search on Google for Google ranking factors or similar, you should get a fair amount of information for it!

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   livewithrichardposted 14 years ago

   You would do well to start with 5 to 10 backlinks per hub. Depending on the quality of the hub, your readers will start backlinking for you.  Of course, the more competitive the term you are trying to rank for, the more backlinks you're going to need.

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   Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

   easyspeak, the first links to look at are the tags you choose for your articles. I often write hubs about SEO related topics so an obvious tag for me would be SEO
   
   http://hubpages.com/tag/seo/hot
   
   This is a PR3 page that is indexed regularly. There is no guarantee that any article I write will always be linked to from this page but because I use the tag regularly I am permanently listed as a top Hubber.
   
   So take some time to tag your articles logically and to tap into the link juice that's free to be had. But remember to stay relevant at all times.

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      shabarigirishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Great tips peter

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   I have just written a new Hub about backlinks if you are interested!

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      easyspeakposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I read your hub on backlinking.  great hub oli.  appreciated the up to date info on backlinking you shared.

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   dobanposted 14 years ago

   I use backlinks for most articles. However, be careful because many backlinks are "no follow" and will work but will not help with search result rankings.  Google has an ad on called "NoDoFollow" that you can click on any page and it will tell you if the link is a no follow (will be highlighted in pink)or do follow link (will be highlighted in blue).  Don't waste your time with no follow links and concentrate on do follow links. For example all of the links on yahoo answers and on Xomba are no follow links.

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   Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

   One important tip is 'remember to forget about PageRank' when looking for links. Google has now removed the option to view PageRank from Webmasters tools and gave this reason:
   
   We've been telling people for a long time that they shouldn't focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it's the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true. We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it. :-) Source: Google
   
   Even if there was any worthwhile benefit to be had, a page that shows a toolbar PR0 may well be a PR6 in reality and vice versa. Also a page showing good PR might not even be indexed by google.
   
   Also do not ignore sites that nofollow outbound links. A nofollow link from a busy site that attract users interested in your content or products an important link. SEO is after-all about getting visitors to your site.
   
   Keep in mind that nofollow does not mean ignore. Sites like Digg are important to Google, perhaps the link doesn't pass PageRank or work in the way we have come to think of inbound links however a well balanced natural link profile of any important page will include links from sites like Digg.
   
   In short Pagerank is worthless and Nofollow links shouldn't be ignored, this advice probably runs contrary to any SEO advice you will find here on HubPages so I apologise If I am creating confusion.
   
   Although, there are some good SEOs offering sound advice here on HubPages I would encourage you to also look further afield for up to date SEO advice.

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      markasuncionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I agree with this, and also PageRank is hackable so you really do not need it...what I do is focus only on how to get backlinks and finding ways to get target traffics.

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      thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am not so sure I would agree with a lot of this information, Pagerank is an easily understood formula, and while Google are saying that it is not worth as much as people claim, that is down to the fact that backlinks inparticular are not the be all and end all of SEO.
      
      While I would agree that Pagerank does not hold teh value it used to, it is still a great way to check your webpages value for a  specific subset (Backlinks) of the Google formula.
      
      All you can do is try to get as many of those known subsets in your favor as possible.
      
      I'm not sure what you mean about a PR0 being in reality a PR6, A PR0 site in reality can beat a PR6 webpage, but that is all down to yet again the link value not being the only factor of Google SERPs.
      
      Again, Page Rank is merely a numerical figure given to your ebsites value according to backlinks. Matt Cutts has confirmed this on numerous occasions.

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   Susana Sposted 14 years ago

   Hi Oli - I agree with what you said - it's certainly not all about backlinks. Though when getting backlinks I do try and get them from pages with a variety of PR. Pagerank is also based on more factors than links, such usability of site, page load times, internal site structure, age of page, the length of your hosting contract etc.
   
   As an aside have you been watching the series on the BBC "The Virtual Revolution"? I've found it totally fascinating. The 3rd in the series was on on Saturday and the makers of google were talking about how they invented it based on link popularity! Things have moved on a lot since then.
   
   Unfortunately they don't have all 3 programs on iPlayer, but they do have last week's. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q= … ;sort=atoz

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    Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

    Hi Oli, PageRank is a measure of quantity and has nothing to do with relevance, trust or authority or indeed the content of the page or the search term used to find the page.  It has nothing to do with the anchor text of the link or the topic of the page the link is on.
    
    Toolbar PageRank is known to be wildly inacurate, for example the toolbar may show PR6 when a page is actually a PR0 or vice versa. Toolbar PageRank can take months to update while actual PageRank is dynamic and alters every time a link is discovered or removed.
    
    Another problem is that pages that show high PageRank might not be indexed at all killing the link entirely not just the PageRank.
    
    Its the link that's important not the PageRank associated to it.
    
    Like you say a PR0 page can outrank a PR6 page, if PR had any real value how could that happen. Chasing PageRank used to be important, but today, primarily because the SEO industry abused it, it has become another worthless metric along with keyword density and many others.
    
    If you want to rank for competitive terms then links are mega important. If you want your content to get eyeballed you need top search engine rankings. Search engines are still the primary means to navigate the web and find information but top rankings require links. A lot of pages that rank in competitive markets will have high PR making it easy to confuse cause and effect!

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    myownworldposted 14 years ago

    kind of mind blowing all this back linking stuff...so many different theories on it. Anyway, I found this hub by Ryan useful:
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Increase-Your-T … follow-PR6
    
    best of luck...

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       Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Unfortunately Ryan's hub isn't very accurate - I made the same error of thinking and indeed wrote a blog post on it quite a while back, which I will now have to correct. The only way you will get the PR value from these sites is if they post your link on their front page and if google happens to crawl the page when your link is there. Most of the links will be on pages with none or zero PR.
       
       That's not to say the backlinks from these sites are valueless, they just don't have the amount of juice that is implied.

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          skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You're right on that one. Some social networking sites ryan mentioned have nofollow enabled and there is no PR increase from that but those sites are good for traffic.

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    20gsxr05posted 14 years ago

    i have wrote a hub on free backlinks.The main thing is to obtain as many quality backlinks as you can (over quanity)you can read my hub that will show you what quality is

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    Miekaposted 14 years ago

    Wow, this is a lot of info to take in. Thanks though! I am working on getting backlinks for my existing hubs at the moment. Just created links to all of them on Xomba. But I've heard several different things about it, some people say it is dofollow, and others say it is NoFollow. So which one is it? Either way, I already have been getting some traffic from them, so that's good

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       skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Do search on google for linkwheels, you'll get information on how to create backlinks for yourself.

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          Miekaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks, I'm going to do that right now!

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    myownworldposted 14 years ago

    Here's another hub that will help you if u want to really get into this back linking thing...
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/What-is-a-link
    
    
    Just read...and read...and then see what works best for you. As Blonde said, some people just make money without links, while others swear by them! Anyway, hope all this helps...

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       Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hey thanks - that's my hub!

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          myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I know...I JUST discovered it...am in the process of reading and becoming a fan!!! you're unbelievable....!

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             Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks myownworld - but i don't think I'm anything special, lol. Just a quick learner! Anyone can learn this stuff if they want to.

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    20gsxr05posted 14 years ago

    you can get directory submitter and article submitter for alittle bit of nothing.These are great ways to build a massive backlink campaign for more information on good submitter follow me because that will be my next hub

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    jesikaposted 14 years ago

    how u could know?

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       Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Could know what?

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    jenblacksheepposted 14 years ago

    Which backlinking sites would people recommend? I'm already using Xomba, Shetoldme and Snipsly but I really want to start using some more.

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       skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Check these sites for creating backlinks.
       
       - clearblogs.com
       - Quizilla
       - Webs
       - Blogsome
       - weebly.com
       - yola.com
       
       Not sure if this reply gets snipped for posting this. But anyway, posted this just for letting you know where to get backlinks from.

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       20gsxr05posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       squidoo,digg,stumbleupon,the list can go on and on

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       Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I look for dofollow forums on my topics that allow signatures. This is a pretty easy way to get backlinks.

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    jenblacksheepposted 14 years ago

    Thanx guys, will look into those!

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    Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

    I have read the hubs linked to from within this thread, my advice would be to read this
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Backlink-Tool-O … or-Writers
    
    Its written by Misha who has real life experience in building links. If you really want to know how to build links read it.

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       harryincposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thanx Perter. That article helps a lot!

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    I am DB Cooperposted 14 years ago

    In my experience, backlinking can be a big waste of time if you don't know what you're doing. I've had websites that were very successful without any backlinking work. That does not mean there were no links to these sites, just that I didn't make them. Good content often leads to natural links. I'm sure there are some successful hubbers who don't use any backlinking at all.

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       Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, there are plenty!
       
       Misha's article is excellent though, I'm going to use his tips for one of my websites and maybe for my "dead" hubs

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    Dao Hoaposted 14 years ago

    wow! A lot to learn from back links. Thank you all.

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    alexandriaruthkposted 14 years ago

    how about shetoldme and xomba are they dofollow?

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       sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       shetoldme - dofollow
       xomba - whether by fluke or intention, when you initially post they are dofollow...after some time passes they change to nofollow
       
       xomba does seem to enjoy the fresh content or news boost and ranks very high initially in google...for the effort involved I still find it worthwhile

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    Mike Rogersposted 14 years ago

    I think it is important to remember that Hubpages as constructed is much like a very well optimized internally linked blog.
    
    Hubpages itself is basically an established 'authority site', and as such good content alone may be as valuable (or perhaps even more valuable) than traditional backlinking such as one might use on an independent blog or site.
    
    Mike

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