Got Pagerank, then nothing

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  1. jcwin228 profile image60
    jcwin228posted 13 years ago

    So, I've got this hub I've put a lot of effort into and had high hopes for. It's my first real keyword hub.

    I did what was for me, a lot of link building in order to get a higher pagerank to get a good Search Engine Ranking Position.

    A few days ago, and less than two months old, it finally got ranked at PR3, which was exactly what I was hoping for and then...nothing. Traffic has droped off to nill and my hub is nowhere to be found in the google search for that keyword.

    What happened? What do I do now?

    1. livewithrichard profile image74
      livewithrichardposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Nothing, except work on more hubs. ALL pages get a google slap at some point and is usually temporary. Just continue doing what you do because if you obsess over one hub you'll never make any progress.

      1. romper20 profile image80
        romper20posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Very true, google tends to ship you off whether its inconsistent or just plain google slapping.

        True Richard haha

    2. spirituality profile image59
      spiritualityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with previous contributions: make more hubs in that niche. Interlink them. Get them links too.

      Without information on how many backlinks you gave that hub, it's not easy to find out if you overdid it. More than 50 (ballpark figure) at once and then nothing is probably overdoing it. Better to have 9 the first month, 11 the second, 8 the next etc. (not precisely 10 a month: that's too forced a signal).

      Also important: patience.

      Toolbar PR is something I never look at. It has virtually no meaning. The only advantage to having google pagerank is the certainty of the hub staying in the index, but since google is pretty good about hubpages being indexed anyhow, that's not really an issue here.

      1. suny51 profile image60
        suny51posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        how do we interlink hubs we have written ,aren't  they interlinked by default,as one reads a hub he finds a link"read more hubs of......" .isn't it  enough?
        please let me know.

    3. profile image53
      blackhat toolsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Part of Google's dance I suppose.  Add a few widgets.  Post a blurb.  Post a different article and use some more of your keywords.  Ping every 10 hours.  Post something on ehow or aboutus and link it to your Hub.  Ping those urls.  Don't.....lose that Hub....  it should come back unless you have been banned.

  2. jcwin228 profile image60
    jcwin228posted 13 years ago

    Thanks richard, you're one of my mentors

  3. Peter Hoggan profile image67
    Peter Hogganposted 13 years ago

    Could be you over optimized, to many links to quick. It could be there are other pages on HubPages deemed more relevant for the term you are targeting. Search engines will only show a maximum of two pages for a given query from any website.

    PageRank in itself has no bearing on rankings and Google will only slap you if you have been naughty; linking out to bad neighborhoods, keyword stuffing...

    To find out if you are being crowded out the results by more relevant hubs use this query in Google

    your keyphrase

    You will need to be in the first two results returned by this search to be included in Google SERPs.

    Forget about PageRank when linking and link for relevance (both inbound and outbound links) A relevant link would be link that a reader of your page or the page that links to you would find relevant and would be tempted to click on. Linking for relevance is a much more effective SEO tactic than linking for search engines and PageRank.

    1. MyWebs profile image81
      MyWebsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent advice.

      I worry about getting too many links too fast so I only do a little bit at a time and spread it out so it appears more natural to the search engines.

    2. profile image53
      blackhat toolsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Peter is so right here.  However, remember that 10 links that are PR5 to PR8 are just as good as 1,000 links.

  4. darkside profile image69
    darksideposted 13 years ago

    PageRank and SERPs aren't directly related to each other.

    1. profile image53
      blackhat toolsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Page Rank and SERPS are different, however they are somewhat connected.  Without going into details, what I want to say is that good SERPS in part the result of a website with a good PR.   But there are many ways of getting good SERPs and it does not have to all depend on your website.  Other Web 2.0 properties can give you great SERPs.  Of course, you would put a link on those properties going back to your website.

  5. Will Apse profile image88
    Will Apseposted 13 years ago

    Hubpages can take a long time to do well. It's best to keep on writing and see how they are doing a few months down the line.

    1. profile image53
      blackhat toolsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You need to put polls, pics and video on your Hubs to make look better.  Add a bit of content every few days.  Ping them and run an RSS feed on them.  Ping that RSS feed too.  I have many Hubpages with a PR3 after 2 months.

  6. Spacey Gracey profile image39
    Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

    Can I just jump on and say thanks to Pete for the tip about Google only showing top 2 results from hubpages. I've just used it to look at my hubs - now I'm off for a cry and to eat lots of chocolate. I will also try to keep in mind Will's advice and be patient. Thanks again.

  7. aksana777 profile image60
    aksana777posted 13 years ago

    I suppose your hub is over optimized. PR is not very important, but quality of backlinks is important.

  8. thisisoli profile image71
    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    Who is Blackhat Tools?

    To the original poster. I think the major point being ignored here is what was the keyword?

    Competitive niches take a LOT of effort to break in to, you might have simply picked a niche word which has several huge companies employing teams of people to cover.

    While it is rare to come across terms which are competitive to the extreme, it is not unlikely that you have done some great backlinking efforts, but simply been overwhelmed by other webmasters who have done just a little bit more than you!

  9. Business Info profile image61
    Business Infoposted 13 years ago

    I personally would completely ignore the Google toolbar PR reading it is as good as meaningless on internal pages of a site these days.

    it comes, it goes, and generally the traffic and rankings are entirely unaffected by any Google toolbar shenanigins.

    if you are saying that it isnt receiving Google traffic anymore I will guarantee you that has nothing to do with whether it shows PR3 or not.

    Google often drops certain pages randomly from their index, try searching for the page using

    if it isnt in the index don't worry, it will be back if has decent external links pointed at it.

    if it is in the Google index but not ranking any more that could be a little more complicated but is still not the end of the world, push on, you can likely rescue it with internal links from Hubpages and more external links.

  10. gqgirl profile image67
    gqgirlposted 13 years ago

    Mine have done the same. When I first started hubbing I was so excited to see them ranked high in the search results then poof the next day gone. I've gained tons more traffic with the more hubs I write. Keep it up and you will get there smile

  11. mymagicview profile image66
    mymagicviewposted 13 years ago

    Exactly the same problem with my one hub.


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