Using HubPages referral program

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   MyGenieposted 16 years ago

   Is it me or is the expanation on how to use Hubpages referral program clear as mud.
   
   I learn better with a step by step.
   Would someone be so kind as to provide a instructional book on how to use the referral program?....please!!

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   Stacie Naczelnikposted 16 years ago

   This might help  as a place to begin:
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Referrals

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   MyGenieposted 16 years ago

   Thanks that's what I was talking about, I didn't get it.
   Specifically, would the tracker be the unique tracker code and than
   my Hub URL?
   
   For example
   http://hubpages/bizcash/trackerurl   (trackerurl is the code)
   
   That's what I don't get, what the URL with tracker would be.
   
   Terri

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   waynetposted 16 years ago

   Your tracker text is usually before your hub title in your hub url....trackers are cool aren't they?

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   Inspirepubposted 16 years ago

   Remember the underscore:
   
   http://hubpages.com/_inspire/hub/Busine … s-For-Kids
   
   (my tracker is "inspire")
   
   Jenny

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   asciposted 16 years ago

   Does the tracker work on homepages too?
   
   I have created http://hubpages.com/_face4/profile/asci
   
   from http://hubpages.com/profile/asci
   
   for a link to my homepage.

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      darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I'm pretty sure it'll work on every page at hubpages.com
      
      I've used them everywhere, and I'm seeing results.

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   Mark Bennettposted 16 years ago

   Yes, that should work just fine. You can even put it on the HubPages home page URL:
   
   http://hubpages.com/_inspire
   
   Apologies to Jenny ...

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   Inspirepubposted 16 years ago

   No apologies required - by why don't you set one up for yourself? You get revenue from pages that other people make if they sign up as a Hubber using your referral link.

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   goldendragonposted 16 years ago

   What is the minimum payout for referral revenue? Almost every other similar program or networking advertising programs state this very clearly at their web site.  But I don't find it at HubPages's help page.  Did I miss some thing very obvious?

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      darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      There is no $ figure for a referral. What you get is around 10% of your referred signups pageviews for your own Adsense Publisher ID (and Amazon and ebay affiliate ID's if they use such capsules).

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         goldendragonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks darkside.  I know it is 10% for affiliate program, 9% or 12% for traffic referral program.  But Adsense primarily is a CPC program.  Less than 1% of Adsense revenue comes from CPM. Unless HubPages has a special contract with Google.  All the Adsense ads on Hubs are CPM ads.  But I don't think that is the case.  From other post on this forum, I do see other hubbers talking about CTR, clicks.  So, whatever 10% (or 9%, or 12%) of page impression does not mean too much.  The clicks generate revenue.  But the help page at HubPages talks only about xx% of page impression shared by referrer, not xx% of revenue generated by clicks.
         
         I have traffic referral. My URL Tracker page shows the "earning estimate" and "traffic hub views".  Are these "traffic hub views" my share of hub page impression?  Then what is this earning estimate?  I use channels to track my Adsense earning.  If the channels do not show any revenue other than my own hub, does it mean actually no referral revenue no matter what is the revenue estimate?

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            Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Same thing - you get the revenue from the clicks on your impressions.
            
            Over the long term, this will amount to exactly the same amount as if you got a percentage of every click. In small sample size, random variation will cause some random ups and downs, but by the time you get to 1000 page views, the standard deviation (average amount by which it varies) will be pretty small.
            
            Bottom line - you can pretty much treat it as the same thing.

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            darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Ignore the Earning Estimate. It's a "best guess" on behalf of HubPages on what you might be earning.
            
            There is no minimum payout for referral revenue, if you get clicks (and the earnings are primarily PPC rather than eCPM) the revenue is added to your Adsense account.
            
            The minimum for payout on Adsense revenue is US$100.

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               goldendragonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               The "earning estimate" is a kind of misleading. The actual revenue from HubPages referral is much lower than the earning estimate.  BTW, my referral page impression is way over 1000.
               
               Based on the earning estimate and referral pageview, the estimated eCPM is about $0.58 which is very low.  The eCPM from Adsense alone for most of my web sites are around $10.  HubPage.com provides a convenient and quick way for people to establish a web presence and it seems few people get decent or good traffic for their hubs too.  But, for the same amount of traffic, your own web sites can bring 20 - 100 times of revenue than hubs do.

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                  Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  My eCPM for HubPages is almost $5. I believe $2-$5 is the expected range. Your results sound unusual, but I'm not technical enough to think of technical reasons for the problem.
                  
                  In terms of non-technical issues, if your CTR is lower at HubPages than your other sites, it may be related to your Hub layout. There is a full-width ad after the first text capsule, so if your first text capsule is really long, that full-width ad will fall "below the fold". I don't know how much impact that has, though.
                  
                  Jenny

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                     goldendragonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks Jenny for your reply.
                     
                     The results are not for my own hub.  If you read all my posts for this thread carefully, I have been talking about referral traffic all the time. Is "almost $5" eCPM your daily average in a month across all your hubs?  If that is the case, it is very high for hubs.  There is a good discussion in this thread What are you making on HubPages?
                     
                     
                     
                     At the first glance at a hub page, I know the Adsense CTR should be much lower than my sites.  The Adsense ads position, format, and color, etc. are not well optimized.  In above thread, Mark Knowles said his CTR is about 1.5%.  Of course, CTR depends on various factors, such as niche, SEO, Adsense settings.

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                        Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        Yes, that is the average across all my Hubs for all time since I started Hubbing. It has been steadily increasing, though. At first it was about $1.
                        
                        CTR - I can't name exact figures, apparently, or the Adsense Gods will strike me with lightning bolts, but they are pretty low on HubPages. Less than 1% last time I looked. As opposed to over 5% on my most recent new site using Adsense, with an eCPM of over $25.
                        
                        Jenny

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                           goldendragonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                           With eCPM almost $5 and CTR less than 1%, your average PPC (pay per click) must be more than 50 cents. That is incredible.

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                  darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  I've found that too. Much much lower.
                  
                  But they've said some people's actual and estimated have been in the same ballpark.
                  
                  So do as I do, ignore it

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      Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, you are missing something - HubPages don't pay ANYONE directly, remember?
      
      The money comes from Adsense, eBay and Amazon, check their TOS for their minimums.
      
      Jenny

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