Question about multiple links to sites in my hub

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   Shadesbreathposted 14 years ago

   I'm working on a hub that accesses certain government websites and other organizations.  Each has a home page, and then branching pages with more specific information (Duh, I know, bear with me)...
   
   So, say I list the home page as a link.  But then, on a subordinate page there are several quotes along the way that I want to link directly to that portion of the page (you know how the links can actually take you to specific text? - wish i knew how to do that lol)...
   
   SO, my quesiton is:   If I have like three or four (or more) links that are going to different portions of a page, does the Google spiders or whatever happens to hub ranks on Google see that as me being "overly promotional" and think I'm "selling" that site? 
   
   I'd like to hit several quotes on several pages on a few different sites, but don't want to get dinged on a technicality (my hub is all informational, not selling anything - which is why I don't make money lol, )

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      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You will definitely get caught in the HubPages "overly promotional" filter.  It's automated, they don't know whether you're being commercial or not.
      
      I would publish it then email the HP team to explain.  Or vice versa.

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         Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Will they do something to Un-spammify it in the hubrating or something?
         
         
         Bottom line, though, seems to be not to put more than 2 links.  I wonder if the site is a .gov if that will help.  Any idea on that?
         
         Thanks for the responses.  I guess I'll just hold out and hope some HP person of suitable expertise happens to stumble across this.

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            Norah Caseyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Shadesbreath,
            
            Hopefully I can help. You are not allowed more than two links to a promotional domain. In other words, you can have as many links as you need from a .gov or other non-promotional entity's site. Just don't go too crazy. At a certain point, the links become distracting and reduce the quality of the hub (I'd say no more than 15, depending on the length).
            
            This is certainly a tricky rule. Honestly, I didn't even realize we could have more than 2 links to a non-promotional domain when I wrote my first two hubs. I went scouring the internet for alternative URLs to avoid getting a stern email from the moderation bot.

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Google spiders won't care, but HP stuff might. Clear this with them before publishing.

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   rb77posted 14 years ago

   You lose link juice with Google after the 3rd link to the same url. My understanding with HP is more than two links to the same url is flagged as OP.

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Source please?

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         sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         seomoz agrees - after 2 links to a domain any subsequent links are supposedly of little seo value
         
         not that i have tested this - but it seems to be an accepted theory
         
         doesnt mean the prior links are of less value just that the additional links dont give extra value
         
         *shrugs*

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            Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well, linking more than once to the same url does not make any sense to me whatsoever SEO-wise, but re-read the post - rb77 talks about losing link juice from the page links originate from - as I understood them...

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   Shadesbreathposted 14 years ago

   So, if my links looked like this (these are fake links, so don't bother lol):
   
   
   www.dogbarf.com/index/blabblah123
   
   and
   
   www.dogbarf.com/index/abcdefg
   
   and
   
   www.dogbarf.com/FAQ/etc,blah
   
   
   Is the "dogbarf.com" killing me? Or do the "/index" pages or an "/FAQ" page become a "different" URL?

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   dogbarf.com, in the eyes of hubpages. By their rules you can't have more than two links to the same domain in the same hub. There are exceptions though, but only staff can give you an authoritative answer if your particular domain is an exception or can be considered as such.

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   sunforgedposted 14 years ago

   sure..I guess you could say that the first 2 links have 100% link juice - anything later has 0% - that could be translated as "losing link juice"
   
   but if it was intended as meaning ------ adding a third link makes the original 2 links be worth less than 100% (say "draining link juice') then I would have to disagree

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   LOL I guess we have to wait for a clarification from RB

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      sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      eh, it looks like we agree

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   Csjun89posted 14 years ago

   Perhaps the best way is to wait for Hubpage people to come take a look and give an authoritative answer!

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   rb77posted 14 years ago

   Lets see, one source I refer to for link juice discussions is the KWA http://thekeywordacademy.com/link-juice-explained/
   
   I can say, from experience, that in my earlier days of article writing I did put the same url in the resource box. I did observe, on some of these early mistakes, that only one backlink was captured.
   
   For the question at hand, "If I have like three or four (or more) links that are going to different portions of a page, does the Google spiders or whatever happens to hub ranks on Google see that as me being "overly promotional". The question is, how are you going to point to different parts of the same url? Anyway, as far a HP I have linked out to a main page and two different inner pages on the same site and had an immediate warning before I even published the hub.
   
   I'm not sure if HP adds a No-Follow attribute to outbound links. But, your linking out to a trusted edu site so Google should not have a problem with that. If your concerned about this hub ranking in the serps then we care what Google thinks.

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      Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, my thought was...  on this one .gov site, for example, there's a really long FAQ section.  I wanted to pull a few of the answers in.  So, I was going to do in-text links to the URLs for each question because they have them set up like that, with url's that travel directly to that spot on the page.
      
      But, that will be three links all on one domain AND on one page.
      
      So, yeah, that was the plan.  I'll just do something different tho.  I can see it's probably not a good idea.

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    rb77posted 14 years ago

    Just a thought, you might want to make two hubs(part 1& part 2)if you think the links are important enough to warrant that and the reader would benefit too.

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    Shadesbreathposted 14 years ago

    Well, I figured a way around it, so, I made it work.
    
    
    BUT, my next question is:
    
    If I have an RSS that comes from a link in my hub, do the articles that they post count as "links" from the same domain?  Or is RSS somehow different evne tho that's where the feeds take me?

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