What are folks opinions on Kontera these days?

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   paradigmsearchposted 14 years ago

   What are folks opinions on Kontera these days?

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      Evan Hutchinsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Loaded with shitty 2-cent ads. No point in using it unless you are going to get 500 clicks per day.

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   relacheposted 14 years ago

   My opinion is that it works for me because 1) I have a really high amount of traffic here, 2) I have a referral with a lot of hubs and page views who uses it too and 3) i've also got it running on my own website.  So really, i think it works because I've got multiple traffic streams running into it.
   
   As you only have 21 Hubs, I don't think it will wind up earning much of anything for you.  I usually recommend to people not to bother with it unless they have more than 100,000 page views per month.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think the subject matter is important also, because it absolutely did not work for me with well over 100k page views a month.

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   paradigmsearchposted 14 years ago

   Thank you, relache. I suspect that you have saved me some aggravation.

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   I do not use it. I've not bothered with it. I'd rather have highlighted links on my pages, going where I want people to go.

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   paradigmsearchposted 14 years ago

   Yeah, I’ve been doing that (linking) a lot lately. It really do work!

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   rmcrayneposted 14 years ago

   I'm with ryankett regarding Kontera. 
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/41099
   
   It took my AdSense earnings and stats about a month to recover after shutting Kontera back off.  My July AdSense earnings have almost doubled June earnings.

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      thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If it was not an instantaneous recovery in earnings then Kontera was not the factor in your Adsense earnings drop, you have to remember there is a near infinity number of factors affecting earnings, but one of the greatest is the time of year, overall weather, and even distribution of birthdays.
      
      If you disabled Kontera and it took a month for earnings to recover then it suggests that some seasonal or market driven effect was affecting your earnings.
      
      If you disabled Kontera and only Adsense remained your visitors would immediately be affected by this change.
      
      To the OP, Kontera earns me anything from 30 cents to five dollars a day.  It is not a huge amount but it all goes in to my pot and does not take up any advertising space.
      
      My own tests have revealed next to no change in earnings from Kontera, and though it is not a big earner, it is merely another way of turning potential earnings in to actual earnings from your visitors.
      
      To me the assertion that Kontera is not worthwhile for lower traffic publishers is not true, since even if they earn a low value, it will eventually build up to the payment threshold, in the same way that many people do not reach an adsense payout for several months, or even years.

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         rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you very much for your comment oli.  I’ve asked ryankett to look at my stats once July is over.
         
         Is it not possible that AdSense ‘downgrades’ ads when Kontera is detected? 
         
         My stats are pretty compelling.  Everything (page impressions, total clicks, eCPM, etc) was climbing until I enabled Kontera.  My earnings dropped by 40+% at 30 days.  No one else reported seasonal or other fluctuations in pg impressions, clicks or earnings for May and June.  My portfolio is pretty diverse. 
         
         Kontera was on for 1/3 of my hubs 15 April-27 May.  May and June earnings were both less than April.  Jul is double May and June, and 40% more than April.

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            thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            While it is possible that kontera did affect your earnings during the time that it was implemented, the fact that it took a month to recover suggests that it was a seasonal effect.
            
            Basically if someone visited your site two days after you disabled Kontera they would not know that you had even activated kontera for a test prior to their visit.
            
            While there might be a small discrepency for repeat visitors, the majority of traffic would not be aware that you had recently tested Kontera and had jsut disabled it.
            
            for this reason if Kontera had been the cause of your adsense earnings drop you should have noticed a near immediate reversal to your previous earnings IF kontera had been the cause.
            
            One thing I noticed around may time was those damn Groupon advertisements on Google.  Those dropped my click through rate and earnings dramatically.
            
            See the thread
            
            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/42828
            
            My earnings increased after I removed those compeltely untargetted advertisements to allow for more targetted adverts to be placed there.

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               cohenj88posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Hi Rose Mary, Oli -
               
               This is Jonathan from Kontera. In terms of AdSense ‘downgrading’ Kontera ads, years ago AdSense had actually banned their publishers from using In-Text ads at the same. However, after they had a chance to study the issue, they decided that In-Text wasn't affecting their revenue and lifted the ban.
               
               I really don't think AdSense would penalize publishers under the table because they're Google and if they didn't want publishers using In-Text ads again, they would just ban them again.
               
               Actually, in our experience we've found that many of our over 15,000 Kontera publishers use both Kontera and AdSense on their sites, and because Kontera ads are displayed in a completely different area of a webpage, they're not competing for clicks, and Kontera acts as a completely new revenue stream.   
               
               Rose Mary, I'm really sure what was effecting your AdSense revenue but if you e-mail me at jonathanc@kontera.com I'll happily look over your account from our end and see if there's anything I can figure out.
               
               Thanks,
               
               - Jonathan Cohen
               Kontera Community Manager

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   Pcunixposted 14 years ago

   I wouldn't care how much money it made for me.  I won't read a page that has that and I would never subject my readers to it.  I really, really dislike it.

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   Len Cannonposted 14 years ago

   My experiments with kontera have been pretty disastrous.  A ~$.01 per click average and my adsense earnings were cut in half. They did jump back to normal once my hubs normalized after I took them off (when I turned them off plus 24 hours).
   
   I did have a higher click through but the earnings were just depressing.  I'm not beyond trying it again, especially if I ever find the time to learn about optimizing for kontera instead of amazon or adsense or whatever.

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      thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      My value for Kontera clicks is less than adsense, but not by much.  Generally it is around $0.30 (Though there are still days when it drops to a cent a click).
      
      I don't see Kontera as competition with Google, rather just another opportunity to catch the readers attention and secure a click.
      
      Maybe it's time I did another test before the xmas season kicks off!

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Actually, thinking about it I might disable Kontera for the Christmas period since that is when I make a huge sum from affiliate sales. If I had the choiceright then it might also be an ideal time to replace my adsense advertisements with Amazon and ebay.

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      cohenj88posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Oli,
      
      I'm not sure December would be a good to experiment with disabling your Kontera ads. Christmas season is actually our peak in terms of when we have the most, highest CPC ad campaigns running on the network at the same time.   
      
      - Jonathan

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         thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Jonathan,
         
         While it might be the best time to be in Kontera, I don't think any PPC campaign can compete with a Pay Per Sale advertising technique. Since Christmas is a stime where potential sale percentages increase by a huge amount, it makes sense to increase an advertising campaign which focuses directly on selling products during this time.

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      mailxpressposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I bet you would do real well replacing ads with Amazon and Ebay.  Let us know how that works for you.

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    EmmaMeduposted 14 years ago

    I don't use Kontera at all, because I find it annoying. I hate when those little windows open and disturb me while I'm reading. I don't want my readers to be disturbed, so I never use it on my hubs.

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       cohenj88posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hi EmmaMedu,
       
       I totally respect your view in terms of your personal preference, but your readers might not necessarily feel the same way. A recent study by comScore, the leading internet marketing research firm found that Kontera In-Text ads are actually among the "least intrusive" ad types according to users: http://www.kontera.com/advertisers/research-results
       
       Thanks,
       
       - Jonathan Cohen
       Kontera Community Manager

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          mailxpressposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          H EmmaMedu,
          
          I created a method to using Kontera.  I use Kontera on all my Hubs now and doing pretty good with it.  When I first started to use Adsense I only earned pennies per day and over time started to earn dollars per day.
          
          With Kontera the same thing is now happening to me.  At first I only earned pennies but now earning dollars.
          
          Just for the record I decided to only use Kontera on my Hubs and on my blogger blogs I use Infolinks with Adsense.
          
          A few months ago I decided to use Kontera with Adsense on my Hubs and Infolinks with Adsense on my blogs.  It's working for me and I do earn more than just pennies.

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    brettbposted 13 years ago

    I tried Kontera for a couple of months on some of my Hubs and another site I run. Unfortunately I only saw poor quality ads. Like for example "net framework" was underlined but it was a link to a search engine for "net framework".
    
    I've now taken it off as there's no point getting 1 cent clicks in premium topics like the ones I write about.

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    skyfireposted 13 years ago

    Konter reporting sucks. I mean they don't have total money earned count? Whats the use of quarterly reports?
    
    Kontera Ads are annoying and low paying.

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