EHOW money making vs Hubpages--My Experiences/Observations

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   Missing Linkposted 14 years ago

   I got in on EHOW towards the very end just a few months before it imploded.  I was making decent money right away----MUCH more than what I make per adsense per hubpages, etc.  However, I disliked a number of other things about EHOW. When EHOW imploded there were a number of other things about that time that were disturbing--things EHOW did, the way they did a number of things, etc. that upset many people.
   
   Overall I like Hubpages quite a bit better even though the money is not nearly as good. Looking back at EHOW something shady must have been going on per earnings---why was I making so much more there...as were many others?  I looked into the Demand Studios thing awhile back but they already had enough writers at the time and didn't seem to be interested in adding new ones.  In other words I was rejected even though I have a BA, etc., etc.
   
   Was anybody else a casualty of the EHOW implosion?  What was up with the money being so good?
   
   Thanks!

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   lrohnerposted 14 years ago

   LOL! eHow didn't "implode" as you suggest. As I explained in another thread, eHow was and still is owned by Demand Studios/Demand Media. While you guys were writing RevShare articles, there were thousands of writers behind the scenes writing directly for Demand and receiving upfront payment.
   
   The "implosion" that you talk about was simply Demand exercising their right to change the way they did business on that site, ie pay upfront fees only for articles written by their own freelance writers and edited by their own editors. Quite frankly, IMHO, there was too much poorly written garbage up there on eHow, and I believe that's why they changed their model.
   
   There was nothing "shady" about the high pay--that's simply how they do business. I write quite a lot for them. 400 to 500 words on titles that I choose nets me $25--sometimes more. They have professional editors reviewing every single article (3 to 5 years verifiable editing experience), who ensure that total garbage doesn't make the cut.
   
   I get paid twice per week LIKE CLOCKWORK directly into my PayPal account. They have an editorial team there to help when there are issues, and writer enrichment programs to make us better writers.
   
   They're far from perfect, but are the best of what's out there right now.

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      Missing Linkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ok.  Though they may have kept out a lot of "garbage" per certain writers I also believe they rejected many excellent ones.  Do you know why?
      
      Why don't you move your hubs to Demand since they pay alot more? This is a sincere question and not a smarty pants one
      
      I've moved on per their rejection of me.  I was somewhat perplexed though as I graduated with honors from college, have been in the military, have worked for government agencies in three states where I had to write extensively, etc.  ??  I submitted a resume, writing samples...
      
      Thanks!

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Not having seen any of the applicants, no. I don't know why. I've also seen many non-eHow people apply who are professional journalists, etc. that have gotten turned down. 
         
         
         
         I can't, and even if I could, I wouldn't. First off, I don't create the titles or the format over there, so it's not a simple matter of just moving the content. And their TOS requires that we write unique content. I wouldn't ever mess around with that. Even if I took my hubs down, the cached versions would still be around, who knows who copied the whole hub or parts of it, etc. It's too good a gig to mess with.
         
         But most importantly, I write here, at Demand, I have my own blogs, write occasionally for a few other sites and do work for private clients. When it comes to the Internet, no one should ever have all of their eggs in one basket.
         
         Besides, I make pretty good dough here at HP with my hubs.
         
         
         
         I'll message you.

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            netlexisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Diversity is extremely important. Like Irohner, I write all over, including my own sites and Demand Studios. If there's anything the eHow episode has taught me is that Internet content businesses can change on a dime. My motto, besides diversifying, is never be never assume things will stay the same and always keep my eyes and ears open for change.

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               lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               So, so true!

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               JulieBMackposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Yep, I agree!!  I also have my OWN blog which they will never take away because it is mine--- MUAAAHHH!  However, I also earn no money there. 

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   brettbposted 14 years ago

   Demand Studios are making a stack of cash from being in the right place at the right time. They were profiled in The Sunday Times a few weeks ago. They are sucking traditional publishing companies dry with their business model.
   
   People don't always write for the best paying sites. Think of all the suckers slugging away on InfoBarrel. They love that place, but they weren't very happy when I told them they could be making 3-4x as much cash if they moved to HubPages!

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      Missing Linkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I experimented a bit with infobarrel as some were speaking highly of it and it's potential.  However, I got very few visits to my articles there.  I get MANY more visits to my hubs here on HP.

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      jpwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I'm one of those "suckers" slugging away on InfoBarrel.  You're right, I do LOVE it.  The thing is that IB is newer than HP or eHow, so its page rank is lower -- for now. 
      
      I view InfoBarrel as the most honest rev share site around and THAT pays off.  Hub isn't better, it's just ranked higher.  I think diversifying content is the best thing to do.
      
      I wrote for eHow.  All of us who wrote there were lazy because we could be.  No one had to try to rank or really learn keyword research/SEO techniques.  People come to IB and complain cause they don't earn, but they are not using the right techniques.  We help in the forum.
      
      @MissingLink - the deal w/the high pay is that eHow likely had a combination payment method.  It could be just Adsense income, but I think it's more than straight ad revenue perhaps including views, # of backlinks, etc.  Just a guess.
      
      eHow was full of crap though and used very deceptive practices along their journey to closing the WCP.  I left my articles there are make good $$ each month.
      
      MissingLink - didn't you get auto approval for eHow when they closed the WCP?  If you had a certain 80% approval rate at eHow you were accepted for Demand.  That's how I got accepted for DS.  I want to write for Livestrong but don't have an MA degree and a BA, 2 AAs, lots of experience isn't enough.

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         Missing Linkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         No i did not get accepted to Demand.  That entire episode caught me by surprise.  I was new to EHOW and a bit of a cheerleader and then one day many of my articles were missing. Shortly thereafter I found out about the huge changes, etc, etc.  Had I known all of that was going to happen perhaps I would have been more careful with some of my articles i.e. length, quality, etc.  EHOW kept much of my stuff but i was so turned off I removed all of it.  I was making good money there though.  I may try to get back in with Demand in the future.  I wish I had gotten involved with EHOW much sooner as I would have made lots of money.  I got involved like 3-4 months before all the drama.  I worked so hard per EHOW and was a cheerleader and than afterwards felt like a fool.  Thanks for your input!  Sorry late to respond but I just discovered some of these recent forum entries.

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      cosmopinkiceposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am also one of those suckers too-- however,
      
      If you average my earnings between ehow and infobarrel per article, per month -- The earnings were falling about the same up until the past couple of months. Now I earn more at infobarrel.
      
      The difference is, you have articles that earn and some that don't. You can't put one or two articles and expect immediate earnings. You have to know what you are doing, unlike how ehow was when you could just slap up anything.

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   JulieBMackposted 14 years ago

   I began writing for eHow long before they were even editing articles (2008).  I had a bunch of ideas for How-to's and then simply got tired of that format.  In the time I wrote for them, I had no idea about keywords.  I did learn and continued to write for them. Then, they starting getting more particular about content (which was a GOOD thing!).  Eventually, I no longer felt like writing how-to's.  Then they moved strictly to DS and I have not really wrote for them much.
   
   As far as earnings, I earn a lot ore from eHOw - BUT I have more articles, they have been in Search engines longer.  So, it is hard to say really.  So far I have not earned squat here - but I have less than 25 articles and have only been here for about 2 months...
   
   eHow is a nice little passive income for a site I no longer write for - don't know ho long that will last!

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   johnshadeposted 14 years ago

   infobarrel is a new site in the long run its going to have better earnigns because the rev share is more generous

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   BenjaminBposted 14 years ago

   I never tried writing on ehow before or even signing up,but thanks for the conversation pointing out infobarrel as I am always wanting to learn new sites to use for creating more links to my hubs which I feel are boosted well by having links coming from as many unique places as possible.

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