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It would behoove HP to do a traffic check of the unpublished hubs…
Not a joke.
You might be very unpleasantly surprised.
Have your delete hub button ready…
And the reason you wouldn't contact the admin team directly with specific info about this is...?
I’ve concluded that they already know.
Relache, I am really beginning to believe that you are stalking me… And that is not a joke.
Can you elaborate on what the heck you're talking about? Traffic on unpublished hubs? That's just your own traffic or if you've published it before it's the traffic it had while being published and then now you've unpublished it. I have several of those. Why is this troublesome to you?
Your own editing creates the views you are seeing before the hub is published.
why would you delete a hub with thousands of visits and google ads showing?
I think he/she means hubs that have never been published yet?
Correct, the hub is never published.
The author just sets up his little porn page and goes into business.
Well if that's true, they are not going to make much having an adult site on hubpages.
How the heck can you manage to publish without publishing? Not that I'm asking exactly, thinking aloud.
Wow para. How did you stumble onto this?
Several questions come to mind....how do you know this? Then, how does one view an unpublished hub? Unpublished hubs do not have ads. They just show blocks where they will be.
I'm really surprised that HP hasn't jumped into this thread yet.
I’m guessing that HP already knows the “hack” and already does the aforementioned traffic checks.
If not, they can drop me a note.
9 out of 10 hubbers posting in this thread are totally confused. And I'm one of them.
An unpublished hub is not seen by ANYONE outside the hubber who owns it.
If you go here http://hubpages.com/hub/trackers you'll see an unpublished hub. It'll say "No longer published" even if it has never been published.
No ads will be on it. You don't even know who claimed the URL.
Unless I'm missing something, I've got no idea how it can be a problem.
So, what was your reason for making the possibility common knowledge? I agree with Relache, why didn't you notify HP when you first discovered the "hack"? I realize you just figured out there might be some bigger issues with it, but why not notify HP? Why come to an open forum and toss it out there and then refuse to back it up?
I've known it for months, but didn't think of it as a hack
All my OP essentially said was to do a traffic search on unpublished hubs and that there might be a problem.
The unexpected, uncontrolled, resulting thread did indeed cause the common knowledge problem you mentioned. For that I am sorry.
This reminds me of the naked Lara Croft cheat rumors back in the day.
I once discovered that there was an issue with the tracking stats. I could see other peoples referrals if I knew the name of their tracker. I informed HP HQ of it and the first response was that I could only see my own.
I responded and said no, I can see "name of other hubber here" who I selected as an example.
The response was quick and along the lines of "you shouldn't be able to see that!".
It was quickly fixed.
Glitches happen, and probably best avoiding the forum and informing HP HQ of the matter directly.
But I am wondering, given the sparse details you've given, if you would see the same result if you weren't logged in.
Here is something that I don't know the answer to...
I signed out.
With one browser the hub was inaccessible.
With another browser the hub was completely accessible.
I have no idea why.
I'm 99% sure that's not it, but I hope you're right.
I'm going to sign-out again and check something else.
Did you sign out of your account from both browsers?
This post might just show that I don't understand the OP, but...
If an unpublished hub gets thousands of views a day, then some people must be able to view it. You being one.
But if you can view a hub, how do you know it's unpublished and how many views it gets a day?
The "thousands of views" is what HP is supposed to check for. That would be a quick way to see which unpublished hubs are being utilized in this fashion.
The knowing it was unpublished was because it was one of my own (no thousands of views there...)
Darkside is on to something.
It could mean that there is traffic, but it's going to an unpublished page. HP stats will still count the pageviews because the page (URL) has been opened, but it's not content being viewed, or ads.
He knows a way to get unpublished hubs viewed, thats pretty cool. Whether its through a different website or what, who knows.
I like that he isn't spilling the beans, but he should totally tell me. My lips are sealed.
So could this mean that there was a hub that was once published, got viewed and stored in a browser's cache, then got unpublished and when viewing the stored version paradigmsearch thought he was viewing an unpublished hub (in real time)?
The hub is now unviewable in the second browser.
I'm going to bed!
So you were either logged in, or it was your cache?
No one else can see it.
Yeah, that's what I figured. As to the post that originally inspired this, I don't know if he is seeing cache or is just very confused about something else.
By the looks of the conversation in that other thread I think he's just seeing his own unpublished hub while being logged in and making a big deal out of nothing.
Not sure how he thinks he's going to make money from a 122 word unpublished hub, but he seems to think it's going to work for him.
Glad ya'll figured something out because after reading this entire post, I'm still confused. Sounds like a mess of nothing.
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