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   paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

   It would behoove HP to do a traffic check of the unpublished hubs…
   
   Not a joke.
   
   You might be very unpleasantly surprised.
   
   Have your delete hub button ready…

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      And the reason you wouldn't contact the admin team directly with specific info about this is...?

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         paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I’ve concluded that they already know.
         
         Relache, I am really beginning to believe that you are stalking me… And that is not a joke.

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            relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            In all honesty, I don't give a crap about you.  And that is not a joke.

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               paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Good. Then problem solved.

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   KCC Big Countryposted 13 years ago

   Can you elaborate on what the heck you're talking about?  Traffic on unpublished hubs?  That's just your own traffic or if you've published it before it's the traffic it had while being published and then now you've unpublished it.  I have several of those.  Why is this troublesome to you?

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      paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I’m not going to say how, but there is a “hack” whereas unpublished hubs (with porn or whatever else the author wants) are getting thousands of visits a day; and with Google ads showing.

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   Ohmaposted 13 years ago

   Your own editing creates the views you are seeing before the hub is published.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   why would you delete a hub with thousands of visits and google ads showing?

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      Bill Manningposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think he/she means hubs that have never been published yet?

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         paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         Correct, the hub is never published.
         
         The author just sets up his little porn page and goes into business.

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            Bill Manningposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Well if that's true, they are not going to make much having an adult site on hubpages.

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               Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               If he is correct (and I am not doubting it), it would give someone a partial safe haven host that could be spam linked from elsewhere.
               
               But it would be noticed and taken down eventually.

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         sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Have your delete hub button ready

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   How the heck can you manage to publish without publishing? Not that I'm asking exactly, thinking aloud.
   
   Wow para. How did you stumble onto this?

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      paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I've known the "hack" for a long time, but the evil uses for it did not occur to me until today.

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   KCC Big Countryposted 13 years ago

   Several questions come to mind....how do you know this?  Then, how does one view an unpublished hub?  Unpublished hubs do not have ads.  They just show blocks where they will be.

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      paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I've known the "hack" for a long time, but the evil uses for it did not occur to me until today.
      
      Google ads will show on unpublished hubs when accessed a certain way.

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   paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

   I'm really surprised that HP hasn't jumped into this thread yet.

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   paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

   I’m guessing that HP already knows the “hack” and already does the aforementioned traffic checks.
   
   If not, they can drop me a note.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   Alright spill the beans, show an example

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      paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, it would be fun to show off; but HP doesn't need the additional work load it would cause by making this common knowledge.

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    darksideposted 13 years ago

    9 out of 10 hubbers posting in this thread are totally confused. And I'm one of them.
    
    An unpublished hub is not seen by ANYONE outside the hubber who owns it.
    
    If you go here http://hubpages.com/hub/trackers you'll see an unpublished hub. It'll say "No longer published" even if it has never been published.
    
    No ads will be on it. You don't even know who claimed the URL.
    
    Unless I'm missing something, I've got no idea how it can be a problem.

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    KCC Big Countryposted 13 years ago

    So, what was your reason for making the possibility common knowledge?  I agree with Relache, why didn't you notify HP when you first discovered the "hack"?  I realize you just figured out there might be some bigger issues with it, but why not notify HP? Why come to an open forum and toss it out there and then refuse to back it up?

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       paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       I've known it for months, but didn't think of it as a hack
       
       
       
       All my OP essentially said was to do a traffic search on unpublished hubs and that there might be a problem.
       
       The unexpected, uncontrolled, resulting thread did indeed cause the common knowledge problem you mentioned. For that I am sorry.

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    Len Cannonposted 13 years ago

    This reminds me of the naked Lara Croft cheat rumors back in the day.

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    darksideposted 13 years ago

    I once discovered that there was an issue with the tracking stats. I could see other peoples referrals if I knew the name of their tracker. I informed HP HQ of it and the first response was that I could only see my own.
    
    I responded and said no, I can see "name of other hubber here" who I selected as an example.
    
    The response was quick and along the lines of "you shouldn't be able to see that!".
    
    It was quickly fixed.
    
    Glitches happen, and probably best avoiding the forum and informing HP HQ of the matter directly.
    
    But I am wondering, given the sparse details you've given, if you would see the same result if you weren't logged in.

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       paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I will check!

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       paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Here is something that I don't know the answer to...
       
       I signed out.
       
       With one browser the hub was inaccessible.
       
       With another browser the hub was completely accessible.
       
       I have no idea why.

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          Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Caching.

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             paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I'm 99% sure that's not it, but I hope you're right.
             
             I'm going to sign-out again and check something else.

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                Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Flush your cache, exit the browser and  come back.  It's rather hard to explain what you said happened without cache.

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          darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Did you sign out of your account from both browsers?

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    Hauntyposted 13 years ago

    This post might just show that I don't understand the OP, but...
    
    If an unpublished hub gets thousands of views a day, then some people must be able to view it. You being one.
    
    But if you can view a hub, how do you know it's unpublished and how many views it gets a day?

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Your stats page shows all that.

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       paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       The "thousands of views" is what HP is supposed to check for. That would be a quick way to see which unpublished hubs are being utilized in this fashion.
       
       The knowing it was unpublished was because it was one of my own (no thousands of views there...)
       
       PS
       
       Darkside is on to something.

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          darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          What did you see when you visited the page when you were logged out?

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       darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It could mean that there is traffic, but it's going to an unpublished page. HP stats will still count the pageviews because the page (URL) has been opened, but it's not content being viewed, or ads.

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    paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

    I'm back, let me check something else first.

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    Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

    He knows a way to get unpublished hubs viewed, thats pretty cool. Whether its through a different website or what, who knows.
    
    I like that he isn't spilling the beans, but he should totally tell me. My lips are sealed.

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    Hauntyposted 13 years ago

    So could this mean that there was a hub that was once published, got viewed and stored in a browser's cache, then got unpublished and when viewing the stored version paradigmsearch thought he was viewing an unpublished hub (in real time)?

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       No, I'm assuming he viewed it while logged in.

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    paradigmsearchposted 13 years ago

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    SUCCESS!
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    The hub is now unviewable in the second browser.
    
    I'm going to bed!

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       darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       So you were either logged in, or it was your cache?
       
       No one else can see it.

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          Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, that's what I figured.  As to the post that originally inspired this, I don't know if he is seeing cache or is just very confused about something else.

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             darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             By the looks of the conversation in that other thread I think he's just seeing his own unpublished hub while being logged in and making a big deal out of nothing.
             
             Not sure how he thinks he's going to make money from a 122 word unpublished hub, but he seems to think it's going to work for him.

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    Hauntyposted 13 years ago

    Good night, sleep tight!

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    sofsposted 13 years ago

    Wow the whole thing sounded so mysterious!!

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    Whitney05posted 13 years ago

    Glad ya'll figured something out because after reading this entire post, I'm still confused. Sounds like a mess of nothing.

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