Does inserting a tracker into a URL stop it being a backlink

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   I found an article I wrote on Triond conveninetly ranking quite well for a term I have just written on HP.
   
   I want to link from Triond to HP - but I would also link to insert my tracker.
   
   If I type the URL onto Triond with the hyperlink does it still register as a backlink or does Google look at it as something different because the URL is not exactly the same?
   
   Almost 9 months in and still soooooooo much to learn.
   
   Any help would be much appreciated thanks.
   SG

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      waynetposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Does Triond let you add links to other articles?
      
      I haven't logged into that place for months, another casualty of online business busyiness!
      
      I know that the tracker being a 301 re-direct is less powerful than a link without a tracker, but then this could be debatable!

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      WryLiltposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I had the same question not long ago!
      
      And the simple answer is that the tracker has no influence on the quality of the backlink.
      
      I got that answer from a respected hubber who said Paul Deeds originally posted the information. So I wouldn't worry about throwing in trackers on all your backlinks.
      
      Edit: Just sent you an email about it.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   Thanks Wry
   
   Wayne - thanks for trying but that last bit your wrote seems to be in some kind of foreign language - speak slooooowllllly I am very simple
   
   And yes Triond does allow backlinks. I only paid it a visit as they sent me an email saying they would like to be able to pay me the grand total of $2.16 and could I enter my Paypal details.
   
   You can also link it to your AdSense.
   
   I'm going to add a link to an article I already had on there and see what happens (most likely absolutely nothing but you never know).
   
   I also had a rummage through the stats that tell you what keywords people use to find your content and it threw up some interesting ideas for hubs - just what I need - even more hub ideas.
   
   Nice to see you two today. First day ever I have sat down and missed the early morning office chat that you get in a job.

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      waynetposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      A 301 re-direct is a url that re-directs through a special url that ends up through the intended url ie: without a tracker!
      
      Nice to see you too!
      
      And I'll be checking out Triond again....not wrote anything on there for months and months earnt 53 cents the other month....!

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   Thanks Wayne - I'm still newbie
   
   53 cents - wow why are you still working, you can just sit back and let the big bucks roll in!!

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   lrohnerposted 12 years ago

   Why do you need a tracker on a link pointing to your own hub?

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   ? Are we not meant to do that then? I thought I've read a few times that you can put a tracker into your own hub links.

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      lrohnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I thought we weren't supposed to, but then I could be very wrong.
      
      You can easily track the traffic brought from that link in Analytics, so the only real benefit is the additional 10% referral impressions. I just reread the section on trackers in the Learning Center, and I'm still not sure whether we can do that or not. I always just assumed we couldn't.
      
      Edited to add: Here's the text from the Learning Center, so maybe I am wrong: "Once the new tracking token has been created, you need only insert it into any HubPages URL you’re sharing to start using it."

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         Anesidoraposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Huh. That's interesting. I never would have thought you could do that.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   I would interpret that as we can use the trackers in our own - but as with most t&cs every time I read it I interpret it a different way.
   
   Anyway after all that I decided not to put the tracker in following the logic that an organic backlink wouldnt have a tracker and I want it to seem as organic as possible.
   
   It was interesting to find out how it all works though.

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      saleheensblogposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I was just thinking it. Using a tracker may decrease the value of the link as the link may not look organic anymore.

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      Susana Sposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My approach has been if the external article is about writing online or earning money online I will include the tracker to try and get sign ups, otherwise I don't use it externally.

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         Spacey Graceyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         So if they came to your article with that tracker, then signed up you would get them as a referal even if they just clicked on the 'sign up' button at the top and not a 'sign up' link that you had made with your referal tracker?

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            Susana Sposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yep, as long as they have cookies enabled and they sign up within 30 days you get the referral. Here's the info: http://hubpages.com/tour/affiliate
            
            One thing I'm not sure of is if they click on someone else's tracker in between clicking yours and signing up whether the referral stays with you or the most recent tracker (if that makes sense).

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 12 years ago

   I believe by using the tracker you're giving yourself and extra 10% of impressions for a specified time to your own hub. I always thought this was to be used if I posted a link to another hubber's hub - a reward for being nice.
   
   To me this is cheating HP out of 10% of their impressions for a few hours. I haven't read the TOS regarding this in a while so maybe it's changed. I don't use it to my own hubs, because in my opinion the folks at HP deserve their full cut of impressions.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   My goodness I just read back my original post - that typing was pre-coffee.

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   Spacey Graceyposted 12 years ago

   Evey day's an education. Time for some more reading for me I think. I probably read all this stuff before and my poor brain has screened it out.

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    Tarinposted 12 years ago

    That's for putting my mind at ease about tracker links not counting.  I haven't gotten a single bonus for traffic to hubs yet.  Maybe so many people use hubpages that they already have the cookie installed for someone else and my cookie doesn't count!

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    WryLiltposted 12 years ago

    I was inspired by Ryankett to place a tracker on EVERY link I use between my hubs. I wasn't aware it would give you an extra 10% on your own, I just thought it would give you between 9-12% on every other hub they visited on the site while the tracker is active.
    
    I've also had six signups on that tracker and several hubs so I certainly can't complain!

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