Very Disappointing & Annoying Finding Leads to my conclusion

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   snakebabyposted 12 years ago

   First, a pure personal discouraging finding: just confirmed the traffic has absolutely dropped: within the past 24 hours, I had 31 hubs with 0 visits, about 20 with 1, a handful with 3, then the rest is 4 to somewhere around 10, and 4 of my beyblade hubs have accounted for 200 visits, seems to be the only ones that have not be impacted by google's changes, magically. Well, think about nearly 50% of daily traffic actually comes from hubpages itself
   
   A real annoying finding is this: A while after I began to post the bakugan hubs, I created a blogspot blog for bakugan review, where I initially copied everything I wrote on hubpages, just so I have a one more place to promote my bakugan site. Today I found out that many keywords that used to rank my bakugan hubs quite well, like in first page or top of the second, now go to 3rd or disappeared, while my bakugan review blog created at a later time and is full of content copied from the hubs here took over my hubs' place in search results under many keywords.
   
   Who can say that hubpages has not be penalized?

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      Mutiny92posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.growmap.com/farmer-update-go … mpetitors/
      
      It is interesting that the shopping related articles got hit hard.  This link makes you wonder about anti-trust laws.  If google can alter the search engine results to favor their businesses at the expense of small business...
      
      To be fair, my product related hubs took a nasty beating, but are working their way back up.
      
      This article was a different take on the Farmer Update.

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      relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My traffic has been moving back up for two days now, so I think anyone drawing any conclusions at this stage is doing so prematurely.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 12 years ago

   You penalize yourself when you duplicate content on another site. HubPages prefers original-- so you should probably decide which site you want your articles to appear on.

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      snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I did not duplicate here, I post original content, the content on my blog was copied from here, and that is the annoying problem I found. You misinterpreted my saying

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         IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, but when you put the content you wrote here on another site, you have duplicated yourself. We know it's original here. Anyway for what it's worth I had a look at your site earlier and I think you only put part of your hub over there with a link back, and that is OK
         
         Nice blog, by the way

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            snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Izzym, for looking into my thing more
            True, I didn't copy everything, I kind of stopped after a while, trying to avoid the possibility that my blog would take over my hubs, and that would be against my will. But the initial content was pure copy.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry if I misunderstood. I guess it is getting more convoluted. I thought you took your own content and posted it on a blog. I wasn't inferring that it wasn't your content, but if it was "copied"-- even by the original author, it isn't considered exclusive to HubPages.

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            snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Sigh...I figured it might be a good idea just have your own blog and write there, then wait 6 months or so for the traffic to come. blogspot works well, I've seen blogs there have high rankings when they are done right, I even assume blogs with good content on blogspot may be somewhat favored by google (just a personal guess), anyway, in the end that is 100% your own thing and will never be considered some kind of "farm" and get penalized for that.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 12 years ago

   Having identical content in two places is not a great strategy. You should however be pleased however that your personal blog is doing so well! I think that's great news and should be celebrated.

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   sunforgedposted 12 years ago

   i think the point was:
   
   The OP's newer blog that features copied content is outranking the original source
   
   
   
   For a algo switch that was projected to fight dupe content scrapers and low quality sites - it obviously failed or is not done.
   
   The results are currently filled with scraper sites on top

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      ThomasEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Could that be intentional? As in, letting the ... cess... rise to the top to see where it is?
      
      At the moment, google results are awful. I did a search for making a spreadsheet look pretty and got a forum post in 2002. Drek.
      
      If this is the improved version, I will take Bing.

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         sunforgedposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         i think it would have to be
         
         
         googlecom searches are noticeably worse, regardless of hubpages impact. As a searcher im pissed too

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         snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I was searching for something yesterday and finally switched to yahoo to see if I could get better results

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      snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You got my point, sunforged, glad for that.

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   IzzyMposted 12 years ago

   My google.com and even scroogle must be giving me local searches because they still have all my hubs on top, but Market samurai gives me completely different results.
   That means that when I am actually searching for stuff, I am seeing localised results ie results that aren't under the effect of the new algorithm.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 12 years ago

   I did understant what snakebaby is saying about her blog vs. HP. If I were her, I'd just be glad that it's not someone else getting the top spot. Now she has to decide where she wants to leave her content. Unless she thinks it's okay to be in two spots. Some people thinks that that's okay (No I'm not one of them.)

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      snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think I would post in two places in the future, Nelle. In fact, I decided to start new blogs for other stuff, and have my son to start his own blog because he has a lot of kids stuff to write (how knows what the result would be?), the worst case, he has a place for childhood memory. I will also focus on my own web sites, see if something would work out.

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   sunforgedposted 12 years ago

   I dont think its ok to be in just two spots either

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   Rochelle Frankposted 12 years ago

   Check the answers on this:
   http://hubpages.com/question/110178/can … sonal-blog

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   earnestshubposted 12 years ago

   I'm still fine. A few less hits but February is,  with the help of a good day today, turning out to be my best month for a while.

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      snakebabyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Congratulations! I'd like to know if you promote your hubs outside hubpages?

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