Guidance about SEO and KEYWORD

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  1. Hunbbel Meer profile image78
    Hunbbel Meerposted 14 years ago

    Hello everyone. I am here seeking for some guidance in SEO and keyword density thing.

    Can you people please help me by telling some of the most important things that count in SEO, that will eventually lead our hub to be ranked in google's front pages?

    e.g. Keyword density, and .... ?? etc etc

    The main point of this forum post is that, WHY DO OUR HUBS RANK LOW (in google's ranking) EVEN AFTER THAT 5-6% KEYWORD DENSITY?

    A good example is, this is my hub which is ranked in google for the keyword "personality determinants".
    <snipped link>

    The last time I checked it was ranked on page 2 (link no.13)
    My question is HOW THIS HUB CAN GO TO LINK NO. 1 ON PAGE 1?

    Please help, thank you smile

    1. ThomasE profile image69
      ThomasEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your keyword density is too high, and the bold underling trick hasn't worked for YEARS. Google will actually punish people for over optimizing.

      From an off page perspective, your hubpage has 102 internal links in site explorer... and no external ones. Not that I am suggesting anything. Just saying.

      1. Hunbbel Meer profile image78
        Hunbbel Meerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Hi ThomasE. You are up to help me one more time I guess smile Thanks for your contribution in the community.

        I checked the density of keywords and it was like 5%. I took an SEO tutorial where I learned that this density is ideal :X

        What you would have done to improve this page's ranking?

      2. Hunbbel Meer profile image78
        Hunbbel Meerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        And what about the Internal and external links?

        and how did you come to know that? please guide me in this regard. I didn't understand it at all :X sad

        1. ThomasE profile image69
          ThomasEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          1. On keyword density... I am not going to give you figures... one of the things I came onto hubpages for was to test that out without messing around with my own sites hmm

          The reason I'm not going to give figures is... keyword density should vary. Just IMHO. If you want your work to look natural... well... you don't have the same keyword density all the time when you write normally.

          But you know you have too high a keyword density when you are forcing keyword density down the throat of your keyword density. It you read between the lines, as it were, the "right" keyword density changes regularly, so you might be better off writing for humans first, and then only tweaking your articles.

          2/ backlinks... google "yahoo site explorer" ... it is a free tool, so I think on average it picks up around 1/3 of external links. There are better tools on the market... but I use site explorer as a quick and easy check.

  2. smalika profile image61
    smalikaposted 14 years ago

    For complete in depth knowledge check out Peter Hoggan's tutorial

    http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Free-SEO-Trai … or-Hubbers

    hope this helps smile

    1. Hunbbel Meer profile image78
      Hunbbel Meerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This really is an awesome link. Thanks a ton. *Blessings* smile

  3. TerryGl profile image59
    TerryGlposted 14 years ago

    Good question and often raises a lot of discussion.

    Here is my view. You choose a keyword you think you can rank for. Don't worry about putting your keyword in "keyword" to search out the competition.

    Your competition is simple, its the first ten spots on the search engine and nothing else. If you can beat them then your number 1.

    You cannot compete against huge authority sites, very aged domain sites, exact match keyword url sites and sites with millions of backlinks.

    Find those that don't fall into these categories and bang, your keyword and your hubs will be a hit.

    1. Hunbbel Meer profile image78
      Hunbbel Meerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      But the question that arises still remain the same that I wrote this hub:

      <snipped link>

      This hub was AUTOMATICALLY been condensed with the keyword. But STILL isn't in the top list.
      I am still confused that why some hubs came up even without that much density, and some just been left out. What is the criteria to work upon?

      And beating those 10 pages is what it all about tongue how to do that tongue

      1. TerryGl profile image59
        TerryGlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I get your Hub at number 4 position page 1 Google on the Australian data centre.

        http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&a … l=&oq=

        Beating those top ten pages includes out backlinking them and do what their doing but only better.

        Your hub is targeting those who search for "Interesting Facts About Cricket World Cups". Now how many people would search for that exact term do you think?

        That's my point. Get a keyword phrase you can rank for that is searched by at least someone.

  4. Peter Hoggan profile image70
    Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

    Search engines don't use keyword density when weighting pages. Just make sure the page is self-descriptive. That means writing for the reader not search engines. If you do that your keywords will fall naturally onto the page. On page factors only account for around 20% of the relevancy awarded to a page the other 80% comes from off page stuff. For ranking purposes spend your time and resources accordingly.

 
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