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   Draxposted 13 years ago

   for fuck sake people... how can a poem be overly promotional and what about the sonnet with regard to length...
   
   can someone can tell me how to fix a poem to make it longer...
   
   or is this platform no longer viable for poetry...
   
   Yes I'm mad, I'm Irish I fight first and ask questions after and I'm here on my own time trying to fix it especially in the light of the 40+ emails saying...
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   Your Hub has been identified as a violation of our Terms of Use. If this is the first time you've gotten an email like this, don't worry! You'll have an opportunity to fix it.
   
   Violation: Overly Promotional - Solely or excessively promotes another site(s), especially when Hub links all point to one site.
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   GUESS what site.... Hubpages for fuck sake....
   
   Drax

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      Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      and yeah f u c k is in totally common use... I resent it being removed... it helps identify when someone is mad... are we descending into this polite morass when out in the real world men women and children are KILLED FOR STANDING TOO CLOSE TO A SUPPOSED MILITARY TARGET....

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   IzzyMposted 13 years ago

   I had a look at one of your hubs, and I think the problem might be the Amazon capsules you have at the foot of the hub.
   New rules state you must write 50 words for every product you advertize.
   Just take the Amazon (or ebay if you have them) capsules off.

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      Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks IzzyM... have tried that and still cannot get Hub accepted for review since it is too short....  I am removing capsules as i go but this does not solve the problem of short poems...

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         IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Everything is changing! It's all madness!
         The only thing I can suggest then is that you condense several of your poems into one hub and title it as a collection of poetry?

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         recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The poem itself is one thing - writing a supporting text or related text is the route I took - with a few images thrown in for good measure and to increase its visibility also.
         
         It would appear that poetry is valuable as a unique piece and is wanted but the Google bots only 'see' the number and 'type' of the words - and they can weigh the links.
         
         I would say this is a catch22 for HP with no simple answer - the easy way is to remove some adverts and / or add some supporting text.

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            Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks RC1 but I do not care about the google bots or whether there is any ad revenue... surely the piece of code rejecting Hubs is owned by Hubpages and they have the ability to modify it... ?

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   Mishaposted 13 years ago

   LOL Drax, they got to you, too? Well, welcome to the club of innocent offenders

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      Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Misha... how are things... yeah they got me... i've cooled off now and am longer as  f u c k i n g  mad as I was... :-)

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         Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Things are good, in general - hope yours are good, too
         
         Though things here are getting worse by the day, and I am a bit tired of waiting for a bottom to come. Especially considering my serious doubts that the current course of action will lead to bottoming...

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            Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Misha... it gets worse... I have a 10 point survival hub that had links to National Rifle Association and 2 other guns sites and now get the message...
            
            This hub contains links to prohibited sites, and cannot be submitted for publication. To learn more about the problem, please click the save unpublished or done editing button and review the warnings at the top of the hub.

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   I had a poem for opening day of the baseball season it was up for an hour and got a decent number of views then got the axe! It's 10 lines,it flows and its celebrates our national pass time. I've also has 20hubs get shut down because of the new changes!

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      Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi OG... clearly this system does not work for poems, how can the same rule of thumb be applied on a base measurement of the number of words... whoever dreamed this up is an idiot...

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      rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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         Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hi R... well i have poems unpublished and when I remove the stupid amazon and ebay capsules the system will not accept them for reconsideration...

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            rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            hmm, sorry to hear this! I didn't know of this change. I only have a few poetry hubs, but I included additional text just to give background.
            
            Since they're unpublished, I can't see what you're talking about. Can you combine a couple of poems and add some images? I hope a staff member addresses this, so we all can see if there are changes required to poetry hubs.

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               recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               None of my poetry has been flagged (yet anyway) - I put in some text as background or whatever and a couple fo suitable images.
               These are in my other name    alternate poet    you are welcome to go take a look of course but the poem, a bit of extra text and a couple of images are all there is - and I do not hav Amazon capsules on them which I would expect is more to do with it.

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                  rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Hi alternate, none of mine have been flagged either, I was just wondering about the poems Drax was referring to. I didn't realize poetry hubs can be too short.
                  
                  I have read some of yours, they're good. I like them.  There are some very talented poets on HP.
                  I hope everyone can get things figured out.

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                     recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks Reb-ELLE !   There are some talented poets on HP - we lost one of the best natural poets in Ralwus recently.

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      rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't realize a poem had to be a certain length. Is this new?
      A few weeks ago, a staff member said they had never given an edict on poetry length.   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/70209?p … ost1530525
      
      I have not seen anything new stated about poetry length.

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   this site has alooooooooooooooooot of members and watching over it has to be hard. I just started hoping hubs and theres alot of garbage on here!

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      Draxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It is always good to report garbage as you find it OG... every little helps...

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   I wrote a poem to discuss these issues in a poem like way and of course those fascists at HP HQ have decided not to allow it through.
   
   So, as my art is more important than merchandising, and there were only 15 Amazon hubs accompanying it anyway - I have chosen to reproduce it here in full to let the HP audience decide for themselves.
   
   Here it is...
   
   I used to like being a writer at HubPages
   And in some ways I still do.
   
   That's it.  Eloquent, heartfelt but apparently not quite good enough.
   
   But I'm not giving up.  I have a ten word epic that is under construction - only another eight words to think up.

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      Amanda Severnposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      What a shock!
      Google ran amok
      With scissors and machete
      Now our verse is all spaghetti!

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   kirstenblogposted 13 years ago

   Here I sit
   atop the muck
   The panda left behind
   its fetid stench
   a dismal sigh
   but where to go?

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   Little Kimposted 13 years ago

   Know how you feel. Got one about my hub Are You Smarter Than A Rick Springfield fan. I added TWO more questions and then that was good enough. WTF!!!!! Also told me a poem wasn't long enough. So i had to put one or two more on same hub.WTF!!!!

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