In the past 2 months I've been creamed here on Hubpages. The first Algo change, Illinois losing Amazon, and now the second roll out of the algo change. The rich people with all the money only want more for themselves. The money they spend does little to NOTHING to help us
It is clear Google is not in it for us- the average person. We are giving them tons of money every time we use their search, I've only been using it because of Hubpages. Much like I do not support the way our Gov't is heading, I now do not support Google. We can hurt them, and make the squirm big time, just don't use it.
Using Bing can help, but I think we need several more search engines, that way we can't have 1 place deciding how much money we get paid. Is there a good alternative to Youtube as well? I want nothing to do with these people. People making Youtube videos are making them so much money and get almost nothing.
You are right when you say Google has no interest in helping you. On the other hand, it does offer an opportunity to make money.
We as a people can create more ways to produce income for ourselves. We don't need Google or our Gov't to do it. Just need bright people to start taking over, that are in it for everyone not just themselves. Revenue share sites are perfect to allow people to create their own content for a living, and it will continue to be the way of the world. They are trying to stop that. The only thing that could possibly mean is they want all the money for themselves.
It is like that everywhere and it is sickening.
Even Google is headed down the wrong path. I have no faith in humanity at this point. There is no question we need to allow everyone to make money on the internet. Cutting it off is just dumb. Millions of jobs can be made from advertizing, instead they take it away. We may not be the best at making hubs and content, but I justed start 6 months ago. It is a lot to learn, especially by yourself. But I feel anyone and everyone should make good money off of this.
There is so much money generated and we are doing all the work, yet they get paid. There has to be bigger and better things out there than Google and it's okay search.
Mikey, do you know how Google was started? A big venture capital play by the evil rich on Wall street pooled over $7,000,000,000 (that's billion)in a secret fund, then they bribed a few politicians to create legislation that stopped any competition that came along.
Then they had over two dozen meetings in The Star Chamber, (the secret meeting minutes are on Wikileaks if you want to check it out), to decide which sites and vendors they would allow internet searchers to find, and also how much they would allow them to make.
Amen brother, by the way, I think a couple of your hubs made more money than mine this month, so where is my share of your income?
Of course, you are right, how dare Google decide that 1 million pages describing a banana was enough, and they didn't need to rank the 200 word, keyword-stuffed gibberish that was posted on the Internet as the 1,000,001 site. Surely there is someone out there in the universe that would benefit from that last submission.
Now you are worrying me Mikey. Chin up, things will look better tomorrow.
That's why I think our government should have continued subsidizing those buggy whip factories too! It's just too unfair.
Millions of jobs HAVE been created from Internet advertising. And lots of millionaires too. (evil scum)
So Joe Six-pack can't hit it out of the in-field, and you think he should get paid the same as Barry Bonds?
And what about Bill Gates? I do stuff with computers too, why don't I deserve to get as much as he got?
What Google gets paid is directly tied to the efforts of Content publishers. How much money does your content put in Google's pocket?
Mikey - you are making this too easy... Why shouldn't people want to make more money for themselves - rich or poor? Why do you have a problem with that?
That is such baloney! Your comment is so wrong you should have a 2-week keyboard time-out. Of course Google is in it for us, look at all the excellent tools and FREE services they provide to help webmasters and publishers get better performance from our efforts. Again, given to us for FREE! Because THEY KNOW that the more successful we are, the more successful they will be.
What does Hubpages have to do with you using Google search? Your actions should be speaking louder than your words.
ahhh.... of course, it's a government/Google conspiracy.
So you closed your adsense account, and refuse to click on any Google sponsored links - of any kind, right?
I don't think there is a "we" here Mikey, hopefully most folks can still smell.
another easy one, if you think you deserve to be paid more, what's stopping you from quitting and going to work where they will pay you what you think you are worth? I know, I know, it is a radical concept, but if you lead the way maybe it could happen
You are right! What the hell is wrong with those people. Can't they see they deserve more of everybody's money. How dare a business think they can just pay what they structure their business model around - just so they can make a profit! Evil stuff this capitalism.
Who cares if they make a profit or not as long as they give of an equal share.
I stopped using Google search when the slap happened. I am using Bing. I didn't realize that if the millions of people who got hit stopped using the Google search, that could hurt them. Good to know we can do something, not matter how small and affect if may have!
It hasn't escaped my notice that I get much better traffic from Bing and Yahoo. I actually read an article today that says while Google's usershare slowly falls, Bing's slowly rises. We'll see what happens in a few years.
Bing and Yahoo have merged forces to make Google go down. There is No love loss between Bing (Microsoft) and Google. I personally hope Yahoo and Bing overtake Google driving them out of business. Google places Their own companies high on their search list, Google owns over 65% of search content in the U.S. alone. Google does Nothing unless big money is involved. Now Google intends to stream movies and TV programs, using youtube.
Of course a business should be totally self-interest driven. Why else have a business if not to make a profit, and do things to ensure and improve that profit?
Would YOU start a business just to give your money to other people? Or to make a profit for your self?
I get the impression you and Mikey are Obama fans.
Are we just a drop in the bucket of search engine users?
How does Bing view HubPages, I wonder?
There are 205,994 hubbers in this community, definitely if everyone collectively stops using Google search engine, it gives a blow to them.
And how much of a blow would that be to HP members who have commercial blogs or websites with poor rankings in Yahoo/Bing?
I think what Mikey is trying to say is simple, why should Google get to decide what good content is, by penalising whole writing communities they are generalising what is published there and good publishers are getting caught up in the mix
They decide because it's their search engine, a business decision based on how to best monetize their site. Those decisions have made publishing on HubPages at this time a wasted effort with little or no chance of realising a direct financial return. I hope the good old day will return. However, for the time being I think that building blogs where I can control content quality would be a far better solution.
Although Google is still the place to be found, signs are this might not be the case for much longer. So it's no longer a simple case of writing an article and posting it on HP, writing guest posts on authoritative blogs, and developing your own sites or blogs are likely to become more effective in the long term.
However, the point I was making is that change is required if you want to succeed. Nothing we can say as publisher’s matters, it’s the actions of the searcher that matters. So if you think Yahoo/Bing is going to be the top search engine in 2012 make sure you are working towards a good presence there while maintaining your rankings in Google instead of boycotting them - i.e. take positive steps not negative ones.
Hubbers alone are not going to decide the outcome for Google. But if other searchers besides us notice that Bing (and Yahoo is now powered by Bing) gets them better results, then collectively we will all shift away from Google. This will happen naturally, no boycott required.
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Does that mean you're cancelling your Google Adsense account too? ;-)
Google is the hand that feeds aswell as takes away.
But I agree that they are too powerful.
Might as well, I haven't made much off of it since the Algo change.
We let them feed us when we can do it on our own, we have to battle them. Gotta stop taking crap from our Gov't, Google, and rich people in general. All we do is give them our money and they give us little in return. I'm just about up to here with it.
I'm not mad they did the Algo change, btw they can do what they want. I'm just mad. After watching the documentary "Inside Job" which explains in detail the 2008 crash. It really just makes you sick, its not just Google like I said. It is rich people, the Gov't, everyone the mentality everyone has sucks. We could be so much better off right now.
Where do you get that money you give them? Do you earn it from work you do in exchange for monetary compensation, - in other words, - A JOB.
Who provided you with that job? A bum that couldn't ante-up for a $2 burger, or some evil rich scum that owns a for-profit business?
I knew it! It's great to find someone else that understands there was a guy with a rifle on the grassy knoll.
Yep, we could be soaring our way to Utopia, like the USSR is, (oops, forgot they folded), well then, we could be as nationally wealthy as the people of Communist China, (oops, guess $2 a day isn't really enough for my family to eat on), well no worries, we could all share and share alike with our neighbors like N. Korea does.
All we need is a Dear Leader to show us the way.
For every website that loses from the latest round of Google updates another wins. Instead of changing search engines another option might be to figure out what the winners are actually doing. I make a living online, but only a very small part of that comes from Yahoo/Bing (I actually make more money from referrals via HP than I do from Yahoo/Bing). Talk of boycotts is in my mind pointless, if you want to make money online you need to be where your customers are and that is still pretty much equates to ranking well on Google.
I have rankings on Yahoo/Bing that are pretty much equal to those on Google, but they just don't generate enough traffic or sales to be even remotely concerned about.
Don't take what Google are doing personally, instead take the time to work out what has happened and adapt.
I'm thinking of starting a new website and using Adbrite ads, anyone have any opinion on them?
I'm still using Google to pay me..
More people need to get off of Google, no matter what. We can't let one company decide what is best.
Dude I can't even read what you have to say. It is so pointless and doesn't even reflect my points or views. Certainly glad you wasted your time breaking up my quotes and taking them out of context.
Google does give us free things. Search is free. Do you understand how many other people can do what Google does, and do you know that they don't need to work for Google to make a difference.
When you said there is a government conspiracy, I knew you weren't worth my time. Go somewhere, you obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.
I would only boycott Google if I thought they were doing something malicious or unfair. They are looking after their bottom line for their shareholders. The fact that it makes life harder for me is my problem, not theirs.
I still run adsense on a range of sites including free google-owned blogspot blogs, and it still earns. I still find their search engine, esp. Google scholar, to be the best for my purposes.
Even if I stopped using all of this today, they have allowed me to earn thousands of dollars with minimal effort during a time in my life when i really needed the money. So I would still feel okay about them.
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