Writing about Random Subjects? You are doing it Wrong!

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  1. brandonhart100 profile image76
    brandonhart100posted 12 years ago

    Assuming you care to be visible to big G.

    1. Start with a niche topic that can get a lot of search results. Use the adword keyword tool to find it. If you don't know what that is google "adword keyword tool".

    2. Make a hub based on that topic that is somewhat broad concerning that particular subject.

    3. Write many (10-20 is a good place to start) other hubs concerning the same subject (hopefully they have a similar identifiable keyword in the title) and then have them link to each other and most of the time back to the "main" hub of your niche. (If you write enough articles, then this could be 2 or 3 "main" hubs depending on which ones you see doing well).

    4. Participate actively in Online Communities including forums, social platforms, other 2.0 web sites, blog comments, and create a worthwhile path back to all of your niche hubs (not just to the main article and don't SPAM).  When in doubt about what is spam read Google's own article:

    http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot. … -site.html 

    5. Watch your Search Engine Love Grow.

    1. WriteAngled profile image75
      WriteAngledposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, but that's boring. I don't want to keep hammering on the same narrow little topic. I'm interested in lots of subjects. If that means I don't earn, so be it. I'd rather be poor and intellectually stimulated than a rich automaton!

      1. brandonhart100 profile image76
        brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Thus the initial disclaimer.

      2. Ramsa1 profile image62
        Ramsa1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        WriteAngled: ideally, I think it would be better to be rich and intellectually stimulated. smile

  2. lrohner profile image69
    lrohnerposted 12 years ago

    If I was going to go to the trouble of writing that many hubs on the same topic, I would just start up a niche site instead of publishing them here. smile

    1. Rochelle Frank profile image91
      Rochelle Frankposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm glad you shared that thought, Irohner.
      I Do think brandonhart has a good tip for people serious about good earnings.
      Mine are all over the field as far as subject, and I fear I will never have a real niche of my own.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image61
        paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Same here. smile

    2. brandonhart100 profile image76
      brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ah you are correct; however, there are still many benefits to writing at HP... the most valuable being keyword testing and ease of use. 

      I can write articles on HP 2-3 times faster than I can on any other platform I have.

      On HP I also don't have to worry about website speed, credibility, spam, and activity.  I can also see all my content at the same time...

      I have 3 WP sites myself as well (with many subdomains)...  Taking a niche from HP to the web is usually my second step... but I still see value in writing a series of niche content hubs on HP.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image86
        Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Well, exactly.  That's why it makes sense to write on a broad range of topics on HP, so you can see which keywords work and which don't.

        If you just concentrate on one niche, you're never going to know what you might be missing. My best performing Hubs are on topics I'd never have thought would make money.

        1. wilderness profile image94
          wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You beat me to it, Marisa.  Without trying a wide range of subjects you will never know what works for you.  There is much to consider when writing a hub for profit, and keywords are not the only thing, or even the most important, to consider.  Your personal knowledge on the subject, your personal involvement in it, your enthusiasm in it all matter.  Without these a hub is just a hub, but when they are combined it can be something far more.

          1. brandonhart100 profile image76
            brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            *see my response to this below

  3. Cagsil profile image72
    Cagsilposted 12 years ago

    Writing about Random Subject? Is actually good for those who can maintain a level of consistency within a structure zone of writing on those random subjects.

    There are only so many subjects to write about to begin with and many people cannot write more than 100 topics and manage them with some assembled order.

    Niche writing is exactly that- niche writing. It is on a specific topic.

    I, myself, write on several topics and each of them are associated and broken down into smaller topics. It would be wise to pick a generalized category and then write about smaller components of each category you choose. wink

    But, I don't think telling people that they are wrong about how they write is the answer. Especially, when people write about what they know and knowledge is varied by the individual to begin with.

    1. brandonhart100 profile image76
      brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You've assumed that I am telling people that they are wrong about what they are writing about when in fact I am telling them what they need to do on HP in order to be successful in Google.

      Go ahead write about whatever you want to write about... but the old methods of discovering keywords by writing on a random topic don't work anymore.

      1. Cagsil profile image72
        Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        And the TITLE of your thread says they are wrong. Enough said.

        1. brandonhart100 profile image76
          brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Just an eye catcher Cagsil please read the first line "Assuming you care to be visible to big G".

  4. rebekahELLE profile image85
    rebekahELLEposted 12 years ago

    yes, I do think niches are good, as long as people are searching for the topics. [I often wonder how many articles there are online about how to make money online... isn't it a bit over saturated?]  hmm  480,000,000  search results.

    I like to think of hubs like a tree. Niches are the different types of trees (topics). I do write on different subjects, but only a handful. Many of them are interconnected. I would be very bored if I only wrote about one subject, especially if it's in my field of work.

    1. profile image0
      Motown2Chitownposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Three words, rebekah - Right on, girl!

  5. theherbivorehippi profile image65
    theherbivorehippiposted 12 years ago

    I use my websites for my niche topics.  Hubpages in my place to come and write about the odds and ends of things that don't fit anywhere else yet I'm interested in and I want to write about.

    1. brandonhart100 profile image76
      brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Again I really don't think that this works well anymore... Most of my random topic articles that aren't interlinked or supported by strong backlinks get 0 traffic...

      What I'm saying is that if you care about traffic, then your writing can't be as random as it was in the past...

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image65
        theherbivorehippiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Well...all I can say is that some of my most off the wall random hubs that are completely stand alone topics in my collection see the best traffic.  You can have your opinion but that doesn't make you right.  I don't have an issue with my traffic, maybe you do?  I'm happy with my accolades and I'm content with my hubs....even the most random ones.

        1. brandonhart100 profile image76
          brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          That's great that you've been able to keep your content... and established content on HP seems to do well.  I have no doubt that you have a few backlinks here and there... and seeing as you have been here for 18 months ... much of your content is established (read my thoughts about that below).... After looking at it much of your content is indeed interlinked. (especially after 418 hubs).

          If your random content is doing well I can only assume that you are passing some links to that content as well or have written on extremely unique subject matter.

          As far as my traffic... I've received 300k hits since I joined HP back in mid-November...  This does not include the traffic I've received from other user names nor does it include traffic I've received from Niche sites.

          My advice is more for newer hubbers that need to develop their "niche".  They can take it or leave it; however, their establishment on HP will not be as easy for them by writing on random subjects like it was for those who came before them. (if that makes sense ;P  )

      2. chenderson00 profile image59
        chenderson00posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        I'm going to try this advice. If it works, great. If not, then I just made a few more articles and tried. I believe some people are having more success since Google changed.

        My fiance is making TONS of money online right now, while I'm stuck. He's explained and educated me on his techniques but I still have my own 'mindset' of the old Google rules...so I've had a hard time adjusting and get frustrated.

        I will honestly take this method and apply it. I'll let you know how it goes. Hey, if you are giving advice on this subject and I've been 'failing' -- I'll try anything. You can see my sad rant here:

        Thanks for the tips... smile Hope it helps smile

  6. PaulGoodman67 profile image96
    PaulGoodman67posted 12 years ago

    I used some small groups of hubs as bait for sending traffic to my niche blogs.  Now it's the other way around and the hubs are the ones that are benefitting from incoming traffic.

    I think you make a valid point.  But the main appeal of HPs is that you can write about lots of different things.

    Is it just me, or are most/many of the big hitting hubbers absent from these forums nowadays?

    1. brandonhart100 profile image76
      brandonhart100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      To be honest, (if they really have left) I see this as a lost opportunity for them and an opportunity for me... whoever said that there are only so many topics to write about above was correct.  In fact, many topics that get ranked in the SEP on HP seem to never be able to lose that ranking (I admit that I've tried). 

      If they take their content elsewhere, then that just opens up a slot for me; however, you'll see that most of them have left their good earning content here on HP as it's a potential gold mine.

      Besides... who is a heavy hitter?  I have more than one account on HP myself so that I can take a niche topic and write completely on that topic with another username...  A lot of the heavy hitters prefer nondisclosure for fear of being copied... and I don't blame them. 

      So in summary, for those who still care about earning a living on HP you can still do it.  Be focused, be niche oriented, and make sure to naturally link your niche content.

  7. brandonhart100 profile image76
    brandonhart100posted 12 years ago

    I just wanted to add that if you've taken my title as saying that you are writing the wrong way that it's not meant to be taken that way.  Write for your own reasons.... I'm simply giving new hubbers advice on how to get noticed by Google.  Again... Take it or leave it.

  8. Bill Manning profile image66
    Bill Manningposted 12 years ago

    Your giving great advice brandonhart100. What you say to do is a time proven way to do it. It's not the only way but one of the best ways.

    I practice what your saying as one of the tricks I use. Only I use them on my own sites, not any 3rd party site. Yes Hubpages is a good place to write and get links from.

    Anyways thanks for the advice, it's good. smile

  9. sunforged profile image70
    sunforgedposted 12 years ago

    Ima proponent of writing in series here at HP - discovering bread winning terms and markets, writing more on that topic, maybe open a new niche hub account or start a website around the terms.

    Its a form of data mining.

    BUT (and its a big but) a third party site is exactly where you would write on random topics. As most topics you write about will have been tangentially  covered already on HP so you get interlinks from that existing related content and you dont have to add the random content yo your own more focused sites.

    Your most likely to find your best success (IMO) in the middle .. you write about random topics that catch your eye to your hearts content here ..use the traffic and search data to find a winning term or market and then hit it from every angle you can imagine (this actually requires some creativity and may still keep those who think its boring happy) by writing about it exactly as BH100 described.

    If you are going to write random topics or are still feeling out a term or markets potential a site like HP is exactly where you publish it.

  10. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

    Um, another important tip is to have a clear title accurately representing your main message.  e.g. if you post is, here is one way to do it, don't title the hub: y'all are doing it wrong wink

  11. earner profile image81
    earnerposted 12 years ago

    I thought I'd 'cracked it' when a hub contest last year started, that gave me the chance to write hubs every day for a month about something I was interested in writing lots about - and it was all linked and relevant.  And it got traffic and links, from the hubmob and hubpages; I even 'won' some $50s.

    It's a year on and it's not set the world alight at all.... my random scribblings about this and that make me more.


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