My First Post-Panda Hub With Disabled Ads

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   sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

   Well I finally had my first Post-Panda incident with disabled ads.
   I'm guessing it's because there is a picture of a girl in a (gasp!) bikini on it.
   I e-mailed the Team to see what is wrong for sure, so I'll wait for their reply.
   I cant post a link to said Hub because that would be promoting.
   But it has to do with Latinas and the number 8 figures into it.
   I hope that's vague enough in case anyone else wants to look and give me some feed back.

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   What kind of help are you seeking? It seems you already know the answer, or that you will soon get it from staff. Apparently, you have several similar hubs, so wouldn't this one follow the same pattern?

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   sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

   Well I was kinda hoping it wasn't the bikini shot.
   If things have gotten that bad here, it may actually be time to take all my stuff elsewhere.
   And as I said, this was my first one Post Panda that has been hit and I'm hoping it's something else I have done.

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   Could you please give me the title.

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   sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

   It's Beautiful Latin Women 8.
   I have looked through to see if perhaps it was a term I used that Google frowns on, but I really don't see anything.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Sabre, which Hub are you talking about?
   
   I checked six of your hub and each of them had ads on them. So, a little help would be nice.

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      sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      LOL...see above Cags

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   livewithrichardposted 13 years ago

   I don't see anything wrong with the hub that would cause ads to be disabled.  There is a link to your blog and I'm not sure it those are allowed any longer but even so that would have triggered a overly promotional warning. Try making the link inactive and see if that helps.

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      sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'll do that.
      See?
      I hadn't even thought of that one.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Picture one could be too much exposure of breast, if they get picky.
   
   Picture three is actually see-thru which I know is a violation for which I've been tagged in the past.
   
   Pictures four, five and eight, could have issues about "cleavage".
   
   I am not exactly sure what the problem is exactly. Personally, I don't have any issue with the pictures. They seem/appear fine. Only a picky a$$ would flag any of the things in that hub.

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      sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Picture one...well that was pretty much the best picture I could get.
      Three is see thru?
      You can see a LOT better than I can Cags!
      LOL
      If the others have too much cleavage, I guess head shots are all I can go with.

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I could be wrong on #3, but I don't think so. As for only head shots? No, you're not restricted to just those, but single pictures of the ladies, might not be the way to go. More pictures, might be more helpful. Again, I don't have any issue with the pictures.
         
         But, then again, I am a guy/man and I am not religious. So....

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   sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

   Well I hate to do a slash and burn until I hear from the HP Team so I guess I will wait.
   Sad thing is, this Hubs traffic was going up today and now I'll lose all that revenue.

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    livewithrichardposted 13 years ago

    I wouldn't worry too much, these types of hubs are good for traffic which filter to your other hubs but in my experience they don't earn much.  I have a hub titled top 10 hottest bikini scenes in movies which has had over 400,000 page views and earned maybe $100 since publishing it, had recently had the ads disabled too.  I'm not touching it unless Team HP decides to unpublish it and then I'll move it and ALL my work elsewhere.  Gee, I wonder if Google has any bikini advertisers using Adwords.

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       sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Actually Richard "swimwear" is a really good keyword to focus on.
       Unless you were being facetious...LOL
       This Hub has only had about 43,712 page views since I published it in April of last year, but like I said, it was moving up today.

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    sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

    UPDATE:
    Haven't gotten an answer back yet (I know I'm spoiled. HP used to answer e-mails in 24 hours or less) BUT, I realized today that my Yahoo e-mail addy was going all wonky, so I changed my contact to another hopefully more reliable e-mail.
    So I haven't gotten an answer, but that might be my fault!

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       Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Spoiled? What you? No way!

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          sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Well yeah...LOL
          It's like going to a restaurant and getting great service, then the next time it sucks.
          You really don't wanna go back to that restaurant anymore after that.

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             Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             HubPages protects your AdSense account as well as its own. If you go elsewhere and post things that are against AdSense's rules, you could irrevocably lose your AdSense account. That would surely cost you a lot more.

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                sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                But I run blogs with over 4000 pages of material (Adsense on them all) and Squidoo Lenses (okay not a whole lot of Lenses..like 40..they have Adsense too) but here is the only place that has a problem.
                I ran a Swimwear blog on Blogger that was all women in swimsuits.
                (Being a swimwear blog of course) 
                Back when you could actually talk to them, the Adsense people themselves reviewed it and cleared it.
                (I took the ads off myself recently because after Panda it just wasn't making any money and I switched to another Ad server)

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    WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

    I had my ads disabled on my Odnoklassniki hub. I am not sure why it has 1 picture and 1 video I sent an email but no word yet.Odnoklassniki is translated "classmates" and the hub only describes how to set up an account. No links is it the video or the pic that is the problem? any ideas? Thanks under my hot hubs if someone cares to check it for me Thanks

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       sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe the pic.
       I know its a one piece but you can still see her legs and arms!
       LOL
       Also, the video has a sexy school girl outfit in it and Google hates those.
       I had a blog entry once about Kill Bill and mentioned Go Go wearing a Japanese school girl outfit and they yanked the ads off that blog so fast you could feel the breeze.
       
       BTW...my Hub without ads, my highest trafficked Hub today.
       ::watches any money from that go down the drain::

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          WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Ok I will remove both pfff

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    Red Anchorposted 13 years ago

    Maybe this is an issue, maybe it isn't, but how do you guys who do "picture" hubs get around issues with copyright?  Are there really that many public domain photos of modern women out there?  Are you using photo aggregation services?  I notice that, for the most part, none of the photos carry attributions.  So I'm just curious whether part of the problem on "photograph-centered" hubs is that you are stealing copyrighted property in order to make a buck?

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    SabrebIade, this is finally getting interesting.

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       sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Finally?

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          Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I can understand you have found it interesting from the start. I find it interesting now that I finally have enough information to understand how peculiar the situation may be from your point of view.

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             sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             LOL...oh, okay, thank you.
             Even though I do tend to get defensive at times (a fault I am working on) I do like to hear other peoples opinions.
             I am not above saying..."You know, you may be right!"
             Maybe I should have put more background info in the original post I made.

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    No problem. It is not a simple situation, let's hope it gets resolved soon.

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    Jason Menayanposted 13 years ago

    Just a point of clarification - ads being turned off has nothing to do with Panda and the quality standards we instituted after that. It has 100% to do with complying with Google AdSense's standards.
    
    I don't know the intricacies of AdSense's policies nearly as well as the moderation team does - which is why you'll have to wait for a reply from them - but I do know AdSense is sensitive to sexually-provocative pictures, so that might be it.

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       sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Jason.
       It just seems that what is sexually-provocative on HP isn't sexually provocative on Blogger or Squidoo.
       That's where I am running into trouble.
       That and the possibility that it wasn't a picture at all, but a Google stopword that I missed.
       
       Case in point:
       I had a friend that had misspelled "The Four Horsemen" on a Blogger blog,the Google Adsense bot, moderator or whatever saw that as "Horsesemen" or "Horse semen" and ads were stopped.
       He corrected that and the ads were fine.
       And there was the time I put "Japanese Schoolgirl outfit" on a blog and the ads stopped till I removed that term.

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    Cagsilposted 13 years ago

    HP staff is too restrictive to moderation on Hubs, with regards to Google Adsense policy. It's appearing as if there is a different sort of agenda going on, other than simply complying with Adsense rules.
    
    Provocative, the term itself is broad and subjective, which makes is based on an individual's perception. Provocative could be just a beautiful lady standing in an incredible outfit that makes her "look" provocative? But, the actual word that should be used to describe her would be gorgeous or beautiful.
    
    It's ridiculous. No wonder why people continue to move stuff off of HP and why HP continues it's spiral downward.

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    HubPages doesn't make money when ads are disabled, essentially they provide free hosting. I can't imagine what kind of "agenda" that might be.

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       Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, exactly. When ads are disabled to comply with AdSense's rules, that's on 100% of impressions, not just on the Hubber's share.

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       Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Excuse you? It might be helpful if you actually tried to think out a statement before you post it.
       
       HP still gets to use it's own AD program, regardless of what Adsense wants or does. So, your statement about HP not making money, is just distortion.
       
       I can understand why YOU cannot imagine what kind of "agenda" might be behind some of their work.

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          Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          No, when we disable ads to comply with AdSense's rules, we also do not run the HubPages Ad Program, either, on either your or our share of impressions.
          
          Our HubPages Ad Program partners tend to be sensitive about the same sort of content as AdSense is.

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             Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Oh. So, now you're talking about "moderation" methods?
             
             But, I appreciate the correction.

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             sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Well I was looking at it as everyone losing money, that's why I want to get it in compliance ASAP.
             Just a Hub sitting there with nothing on it is basically useless to everybody, not just me.
             And add to that it being my highest trafficked Hub today, as Charlie Brown would say...AAUGH!
             LOL

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                Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Yes, maybe there are some minor things you can do in order for it to be ad-safe. The moderators will give you some insights about that.

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                   Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   
                   
                   Moderation team will give insight? That's too funny, in and of, itself.

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    Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

    Cagsil, now you are being rude. Again.

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    sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

    Well I got an e-mail from HP stating that...
    "This image is too provocative for advertising
    (image link was here)
    Please replace it with one where the woman shows less cleavage, and we will review the hub for ad reinstatement." 
    And they included a link to the exact image.
    So since that was the best pic I could find of her, I'll just delete that entry and submit it.
    So it took less than 72 hours to get a reply (which I suppose is pretty good with all the new stuff).
    
    Fixed the photo and e-mailed the Team so all should be well now.

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       Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I had a hub unpublished for adult content and unrelated links. They responded to the email I sent today, which the hub was also unpublished today?
       
       I found the link in the email sent(given), to be foolish with regards to what is provocative or even adult content for that matter.
       
       But, I certainly hope you get your hub published again.

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          sabrebIadeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you Cags.
          Sorry about what you are going through with your Hub.
          Have you e-mailed them back yet?

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             Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Yes, I told them that the picture that they are attempting to moderate has already been approved by other moderators.
             
             Not to mention, it's a picture of a woman sit on her a$$, with her hands holding on to the jacket she is wearing. Granted, she is not wearing a bra underneath the jacket, but it's not adult content, that's for sure, simply because it shows nothing.
             
             I explained to them that the supposedly unrelated links they claim are on the hub are related based on "celebrity" correlation. The products of Amazon are all of the Celebrity on the hub, so those links cannot be unrelated.
             
             The RSS Feed on the hub is keyword "kirsten dunst", as it should be, in order to get related content.
             
             Btw- you're welcome.

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    sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

    Okay I didn't get back here last night because my internet service provider went "Blooey" and I was hooking up at 1.5 instead of my usual 10 and it made it really hard to do anything online.
    BUT
    Within just a bit (I think it was about a hour or so, maybe less) of me telling the HP Team that I had fixed the Hub in question, HP e-mailed me back and said Ads had been re-instated and they were.
    So I know we hear a lot of horror stories as of here late, but if you read this thread you will see that the matter was cleared up within about 2 days.
    Your mileage may vary, but it is not a hopeless situation when a Hub is disabled for whatever the reason.
    And I hope everyone else out there can get a resolution as fast as I did.

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       Rosie2010posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Sabre, thanks for coming back and letting us know.  My experience with HP team disabling ads on one of my hubs is the same as yours.  I emailed HP, HP emailed me back pointing the exact problem, I edited and resubmitted, and in two days HP emailed me back that ads on my hub was enabled. 
       My hub is about about mens underwear and of course with pictures of sexy men wearing underwear, and it keeps tripping the automatic moderator system and needs a live moderator to turn back  the ads on.  It's a nuisance, as whenever I edit the hub such as fix a broken link, it trips the auto moderator and ads are disabled and I have to go through the same process all over again. (sigh)

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