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   codythebestposted 13 years ago

   I have a duplicate content problem recently.
   I own about 60 websites with content made back more than 8 years for some.
   I joined here about 2 years ago when I published my first hub page. That first hub page was live for the last 2 years now. But yesterday, it has been unpublished for duplicate content. Content coming from my own site, made years and years ago.
   
   My idea was to rewrite those to make them unique from the original but I still have the duplicate problem.
   
   Even the pictures were taken by me to illustrate the hub page.
   
   What I do to see if I can find the content I write is to Google those sentences to see if there is anything similar out there. Most of the time, if not every time, it's not there. It seems unique to me.
   
   What can I do to make my own verbage avoiding to be red flagged as duplicate? what about those old hub pages that were fine until today?

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      Fotographerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      My latest hub has been unpublished for duplicate content. I have written each word of it myself but still they tell me that it is a duplicate, so I am going to publish it somewhere else.

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      Smart is Goodposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have you tried contacting HupPages support? They might be able to allow the publication of you hub if you explain them your situation.

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   codythebestposted 13 years ago

   I think I nailed the problem.
   I googled few parts of sentences from my original content and saw that content in 8 others websites out there, including mine of course. Those are older than my hub pages. So each time I want to make a hub page with existing content, it's gonna be duplicated...

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   Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

   Hubpages does not allow content that appears elsewhere. Even if you have written it yourself it will still come up as duplicate.
   
   Many places now do not allow you to submit stuff already appearing on the web. It's not in your best interest either.
   
   If you want to put something that is previously published online here you should delete it from the original site. Once Google deindexes it you should be able to publish here with no problems.

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      codythebestposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your thoughts.
      I'm going to re-write them all.
      I also have to avoid making the mistake to update them down the road. By then, they will be all over the internet and my update hub will become a duplicate again....
      But I'm not going to de-indexed my own sites just for hubpages.

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   codythebestposted 13 years ago

   More difficult than I thought. I have completely rewritten the 'duplicate' article that I am the original author. I made a search on Google with few pieces of sentences and there are nowhere to be found. Still it has been qualified as duplicate.
   
   So not only it is my own article, it is now my own rewritten article, but it is still duplicate...
   
   Since typing unique, unduplicated and original content has 50% chance to be found as duplicate, what can I do to reduce that number?
   
   I also thought about withdraw the youtube explicative video since this one is not mine at all. That might be the issue. The future will tell...

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   Dave Mathewsposted 13 years ago

   I too have a problem whereby Hub Pages has unpublished two of my hubs claiming duplication of text. This could not be further from the truth.

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   Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

   I've never had any content unpublished for duplicate content even after I found my content stolen on other sites.
   i have to track down,and file the DMCA and fight with website owners to comply..

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   codythebestposted 13 years ago

   The video was not the issue. I took it down and re-apply for publication. It was denied again.
   So from here, I don't know what to do except to let it go...

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   Dave Mathewsposted 13 years ago

   These hub writings are our writings. For Hub to publish them and then indescriminately decide to unpublish them for any reason is censorship.

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      frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Unfortunately it's not censorship - it's good business sense. It shows that HP are taking steps towards cleaning the whole site up.
      
      It may have escaped many peoples notice but a combination of things happened recently. HP dropped the ball, they failed to stay on top of those that used the site as a cess pit. Then Panda hit.
      
      From that point the whole site has experienced a shake up (or shake down), and that includes regurgitating text copied from other sources, spinning content and publishing it as an original hub, excessive links, so on and so forth.
      
      Those of you that are now finding yourself on the wrong side of the dupe content line should take a leaf out of the books of those that have had to edit and re-edit hubs that favored product links.
      
      We didn't scream 'censorship', we just got on with editing hundreds and hundreds of hubs. Go edit your hubs and bring them in line with the rules.

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         wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Well said.  +1

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      theherbivorehippiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No it's not..it's their site, their rules, their right. Nobody asks anyone to write here...if you don't like their new rules, you have the ability to remove your articles and take them elsewhere. Nearly all of us have had Hubs unpublished for one reason or another and had to clean things up. There's no point complaining about it because it's not going to get you anywhere.
      
      I understand you're upset because your religious hubs have been unpublished because of too many biblical quotes but you have to understand that duplicate content is looked upon unfavorably from Google and that affects ALL of us.
      
      Have you thought about starting a blog for your articles with a lot of quotes instead?

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   x karmaposted 13 years ago

   Yup, I'm having the exact same issue. I recently tried publishing an original poem I wrote years ago only to have it flagged as being a duplicate. I contacted HP and haven't received any response. Any other ideas?

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      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have you put it on the net anywhere since writing it?  Perhaps forgotten that you did so?
      
      Block a section of text, maybe around 50 words, and perform a google search for it.  That should tell you where the duplicate is.

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         x karmaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I had it on my private blog, but no-one (including search engines) has access to that. I certainly doubt that Google have the required password to access my stored poems!
         
         I've tried searching Google for a few different sections of my poem with no hits.

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    naturegirl7posted 13 years ago

    I, too, have recently had a recipe lens become unpublished and labeled a duplicate.  The recipe directions were too similar to ones I had written on another page.
    
    Since then, I have completely revamped the whole recipe.  The directions now have little similarity to the other page and the format of the ingredients has been changed.
    
    I also added several paragraphs of text giving anecdotes about baking cookies.
    
    All the photographs are mine, that I took.
    
    It is my understanding that the ingredients of recipes can be identical, but that the preparation directions must be original.
    
    The explanation of "duplicate" said (and I'm paraphrasing) that a member of the staff would review it within 72 hours.  It has now been 144 hours, counting the weekend, and I have not noticed any visits (other than mine).
    
    I revised it on the first day, making it unique, then when nothing happened on day 3 and 4, I added a little more and made some corrections.
    
    When I copy the new recipe instructions and do a Google search, I find no duplicates, nor any connection to a similar recipe.  It is unique!
    
    I am puzzled.

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       x karmaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That's exactly what's happening to me. No hits on google, no responses from HubPages, just my poem gathering dust. I think I'm done with HubPages. What's the point of writing something that's hastily labeled as being a duplicate??

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          naturegirl7posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          X karma,
          Was the poem, 'Go Away'?  Or is there another.  My duplicate was released today, I thought maybe yours was, too.  I hope so.
          
          It took about 10 days without hearing anything.  Then today I got the email.

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             x karmaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             No, I had a poem called "Star Light, Star Bright (a poem)". I've put it up for publication twice and sent a few messages to HubPages with nothing in return other than the standard email stating that my article is a duplicate.
             
             I'm really quite sick of it to be honest.
             
             If HubPages would like to let me know where the original is, I'd love to see it, because so far, I can't find anything out there.

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    codythebestposted 13 years ago

    I'm done with hubpages.
    One by one, my hubs are qualified of duplicate a day or two after I typed them with words and sentences coming directly from my brain. From there, there is nothing I can do.
    As someone said above, we don't have to use hubpages.com after all.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I can understand that.  Much of your one hub is a virtual duplicate, with just a very few words changed, of one at camera tips dot com.
       
       It's not nice to copy someone elses work and, even if it should be your own work, is not allowed on HP.

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    naturegirl7posted 13 years ago

    Today I was notified that my recipe hub has been cleared of the duplicate label and has been published.  Yeah!
    
    I completely rewrote the recipe directions and reformatted the ingredients.  I also added several original anecdotes about learning how to bake.
    
    It took awhile for someone at HQ to check it out and I almost lost hope, but it all turned out well in the end.
    
    Cody, perhaps you could do something different with your photography knowledge.  Tighten the niche a little instead of writing about the same techniques.
    
    I am a photographer, too, and I have narrowed my niche down to nature photography in my home state.  I specialize in native plants and habitats.
    
    I also write on another site or two, but when I write a hub, I found that narrowing down the subject and writing about new experiences keep it fresh and original.

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    codythebestposted 13 years ago

    Naturegirl7
    
    The problem is not coming from me to change my article.
    
    As Wilderness said, I copied an article where I changed few words to post it in MY hub pages. And that's the problem. I'm sure he really thinks I did it that way.
    What I'm doing wrong is to update my hubs. In that case, it will be always a duplicate of something existent out there.
    What I have to do is to write a hub and never touch it again so all the duplicate will be on other websites.
    
    So when Wilderness write a new hub, when people will copy and paste that article somewhere else, if he doesn't update it, he will be fine. But if he update his article, it will be a duplicate because it will be in different websites.
    
    Actually, I good technique to ruin a hub member work will be to copy/paste a hub page, post it somewhere else and ask hubpages.com to remove the hub page because of the duplicate issue...
    In short, there is very few things you can do...

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       naturegirl7posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Cody,
       Since Google revamped their search engines and procedures a few months ago, sites are being penalized for having duplicate material.  Even if it is your own material.  Even paragraphs of copied material can be considered as a duplicate... or like in my case 1 paragraph.
       
       If I am understanding you, you think that others have copied your work and posted it all around the net.  Why haven't you contacted the sites and Google to report the plagiarism?  You can demand that it be removed.
       
       In the meantime, use your time wisely.  Instead of lamenting over what "mean old HubPages" is doing to your hub(s).  And trying to think of ways to get around it or to get even.  Write a new one that is totally unrelated to your old material.
       
       While I was waiting for a decision, I wrote 4-5 more hubs.  One was selected to be in the Share and Share Alike contest.
       
       You sound like a young, talented person who should have plenty of new ideas.  Put some of them on paper... err... a hub.  Good luck.

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          naturegirl7posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          P.S.  When you publish an article, it is date stamped.  This is how you can prove that you are the original author.

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    GoingOnlineposted 13 years ago

    I got a duplicate hub warning because I grabbed one of my squidoo lenses and moved it here when it was already indexed in Google. I had removed the lens already, so I just send a message explaining that using the link that appears with the warning, and they just approved the hub.
    
    Funny enough, it still displays as duplicate but at least it displays.

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       naturegirl7posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I only grabbed a favorite recipe from one of my lenses and was too tired (or lazy) to rewrite it.  After I rewrote the recipe and added a couple of paragraphs (it only took a few minutes), when the monitors finally checked it, all was well.
       
       From now on, I have made a pledge to myself that if I use some old material, I will rewrite every sentence... even my own recipes.

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    codythebestposted 13 years ago

    I just followed your own suggestion Naturegirl7.
    I took that old hub and made it a brand new one on the same subject. Will see how it goes. That's my last attempt though.
    As for the duplicate content, it's a long and difficult combat. I own 69 websites where I write tons of stuff since, for the oldest, 1995. I was not aware that lots of my content were copied and posted on other sites until I checked here. And to be honest, I don't really care about that. Should I?

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       naturegirl7posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       With that volume, it would be hard to keep track of it all.  If it doesn't bother you, then... 
       
       Don't be disappointed if HQ doesn't read your revised hub in 72 hours.  It took about 10 days for someone to read and approve my edits.  I guess they are over worked and short on staff.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Possibly.  Say you write an article, call it copy A, on another site.  Someone else copies it and posts it somewhere as copy B.  You decide you want it on HubPages and copy/paste it into HP (copy C) while deleting copy A. 
       
       Copy B (the thieves version) is now older and was published before copy C which is your only version.  Copy C will be considered a duplicate of B even though it isn't, and you have no way to prove otherwise.

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