I wonder if anyone has or is using BackLinks.com and if it is acceptable to HP & Google's TOS, since I have heard others recommend it...
I'd never heard of them Luis, but I clicked on the link and the first thing I saw was buy and sell backlinks, so I clicked out again.
Buying and selling links is against Google's TOS.
I am not sure about backlinks.com, have not did a lot of research about this site. However was recently looking at inbound writer.com-this looks like a promising site for backlinking articles to. Also a few other hubbers mentioned to me that info barrel is another great site, moreso than redgage.com. Check these out in the interim. And hope I've helped you with this topic somewhat.
I've used backlin.com are you thinking of them? They seem ok, you just submit your link, not sure it's made any difference in terms of traffic though.
I saw the thread title and already knew my answer would be "never"
Thanks to both of you. I think that IzzyM is correct though as it looks like it could be against Google TOS and even HP....Oh well...
So far as I know, (and what do I know?) the best way to obtain backlinks is to post on forums, sites and anywhere you can online, with either an in-text link, or a profile link.
The trouble with this is that we all have so many hubs. Which one to choose?
If you have 500 hubs, and wish to promote each one, you will need 500 usernames, and 500 email addresses.
And that will still only give one hub a backlink each.
Unless we promote to social networking sites, or web 2.00 sites.
The old way, and the way HP recommends, is to write an article so good that everyone will want to backlink to it.
I can't help thinking that those of us who joined this train within the last 2/3 years have missed the bus, in a manner of speaking.
Our work wasn't 'out there' when all the web had was crap and copies of it.
Enter Hubpages, with their stricter rules and new authors. Those who wrote good articles automatically got linked to, because they were good, and fresh and new.
There was a lot of good writers. They have all got 'natural' backlinks.
Those writers covered most of the topics, that the rest of us might know or care about.
But us newer writers can't compete against the older ones who have domain age backing.
I am sorry to see Hubpages members, who haven't suffered a huge traffic drop, reminding us of the good writer/bad writer scenario envisaged after Panda/subdomain.
I always thought the subdomain could be devisive among hubbers, and it seems to be the case now.
I would be very cautious about making your own backlinks. Google knows the difference. If the links develop too quickly, Google knows it's you doing it and your rank will suffer. If you use sites that sell backlinks, forget it, you'll have destroyed your reputation.
Google knows when backlinks are real, that other people decided to point to you because they feel you have something really worthy to offer. So that's the way to get backlinks. Just as IzzyM said... "Write an article so good that everyone will want to backlink to it." Yes indeed, that is the most powerful way to get high ranking with Google.
Google Webmaster Tools shows all the sites that link to your hubs. This is a very useful tool to review backlinks and you should use it if you are not. See the HP learning center for How to Verify Your HubPages Subdomain in Google Webmaster Tools
So basically, you have to make backlinks that look real, and that is dependant on your traffic.
So let's say, you have 100 unique visits per day, and 1% want to backlink to you.
That is one hubs can be backlinked that day, to one site.
But if you have no traffic, you need backlinks to get traffic. What happens then?
It's a bit like the old question. What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Making your own backlinks is a great way to do it, but you have to do it RIGHT. Other article writing sites are a great source - just use them right and follow their TOS's.
There's two options, whitehat are links that generally last forever and paying for backlinks is pointless when hardwork usually beats cutting corners. At least you knwo where they came from.
White hat links? What are they? Please explain the difference between white hat and black hat links.
According to some, all self-obtained links are black hat.
In my eyes Blackhat links are forum profile links with all other fields blank, automated blog comment spam(using software) and SeNuke article posting(dup)
OK fair enough. So it's white hat when they don't use automated software but still post a semi-nonsensical comment?
Like "yours is the best site I've seen, I'll recommend it to all my friends." or similar.
In other words, if the comment isn't directly related to the post, it is black hat.
What if it really was the best post they have ever seen?
You could put 'this is the best **** blog Ive ever seen' of course you should expand a little other wise it is considered blackhat. Askimet generally catches most automated spam comements on Wordpress now, blackhatters use private proxies as well
Thanks for sharing that excellent information about backlinks as well as your views on this topic. See you on the 17th at our next HP meetup!
Jim, Many people have different views and experiences with creating backlinks. I find the best are those that happen naturally by unknown people. We can add this to the planned discussions for the Long Island HubMeet on the 17th. See you there.
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