Can all who join in this forum follow each other?

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   nabuagermelineposted 12 years ago

   ohe. does it really sound silly?mmmh well i guess.
   
   it's not all about the score anyway. i was thinking about the wide range of topics one can read and the line up of hubbers one could get to know.
   
   isn't it exciting everytime you get to see a lot of post in your homepage? or it's just me?
   
   still thanks.

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      PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Wilderness has a point.  The way to get followers is usually to spend time reading other people's material, following them, and writing fan mail and hoping that they will like your stuff and reciprocate.
      
      Of course, people do follow people they see or chat to in the forums, too.  But forums are usually about discussing and expressing views, rather than a shortcut way to pick up followers.

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   IzzyMposted 12 years ago

   I don't follow spinners. I flag them!

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      PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, I didn't even look at the hubs.  I will do some flagging if that's the case!

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         IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Amazon says: "Incredibly Light And Durable Shoe Keeps you Running Longer"
         
         She says "Incredibly Light Along with Heavy duty Footwear Keeps people Overseeing Longer".
         
         Amazon said "Great Competitive Running Shoe"
         
         She said: "Great Competitive Overseeing Footwear".
         
         I'm not getting the 'overseeing' bit. Screams "I can't speak English", all the same!

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            rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Like: 
            
            I am running the weekly meeting.
            
            I am spearheading the weekly meeting.
            
            I am overseeing the weekly meeting. 
            
            Not exactly the same meeting, but I kinda get the spin.

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               IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Of course! Well done you!

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      rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Then perhaps we shouldn't bother to tell her that fanning sprees tend to drive scores down. 

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         IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Ooops, I think you just did!

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            rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Doesn't really matter does it?  Ironic how many hubbers dip into the forums, thereby drawing attention to themselves, thereby revealing their work is spam or otherwise of poor content, thereby bringing about their own demise.

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   nabuagermelineposted 12 years ago

   ok. i admit my latest post was a spun (but from my original article except the product features) just to make up the days i haven't created hubs.
   
   don't i have excuses that i'm still new here?
   
   as PaulGoodman67 said from earlier comments, "forums are usually about discussing and expressing views, rather than a shortcut way to pick up followers." -> and so does neither a shortcut way to bring down a new hubber.
   
   i am open for opinions, suggestions or any contradictions.
   
   so no need with all the gossips and backbites.lol i can totally read each line. if those are the cases then thanks for i now know as to where to improve.
   
   and cancel the follow stuff.

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      rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      OK.  In my opinion there is no gossip in this thread.  There was no attack behind your back, or in your absence.  All comments are here for anyone to see.  But backbiting is debatable I guess, and could be perceived in a philosophical sense.
      
      In my opinion many veteran hubbers, at least those of us who are active in the forums, are accustomed to seeing spammers/spinners disappear, at least from the forums, if not from the site, once they have been called out for spamming.  So in that sense, I suppose we were talking behind your back. 
      
      If your feelings were hurt, then I apologize.  You may be a lovely, delightful person, but…
      
      In my opinion there is absolutely no good reason to spin an article.  There is certainly no place for it on HubPages.
      
      In my opinion you gained absolutely nothing in terms of your personal statistics, or anything else, in spinning that hub, as the piece is “unreadable”, and makes no sense.   
      
      In my opinion no one likes spinners or spammers, except maybe other spinners and spammers. 
      
      In my opinion anyone who publishes spun articles on HP will not receive a warm welcome here.  I dare say most hubbers would not consider such a person a “real hubber”, and not bother to forge a relationship.  Why would we want anyone or any content that would drag down the reputation of the site?  We flag to protect our community.
      
      In my opinion your thread may have died because hubbers “wrote you off” once they realized you were a spinner. 
      
      In my opinion it is a huge mistake that your spun shoe hub is still published. 
      
      In my opinion a little humility from you would go a long way, if somehow you are sincerely interested in being a valuable member of this community, and against the odds, had no idea that spinning is an absolutely horrible idea.

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         Emerald Strachanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         @ RMCrayne. Well said! I agree with every bit of what you said! There is no good reason to spin content and I did read somewhere that if you spin someone else or even your own content it is plagiarism. I too have no tolerance for that.

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            rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks C.  True, but the spun article was almost gibberish, and bears no resemblance to the original if the original is readable.  Right?  So to me plagiarism is a moot point, as is that OP was the originator of the original article. Spun resembles nothing.

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               Emerald Strachanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Darn, and I thought I could disguise myself...lol
               
               When I tried to check her profile she was already banned so didn't get a chance to see the crap. What could have happened is a spinning of an article that was spun more than once. If the person had a blog they might have spun it more than once so by the time it hit HP it's unreadable.
               
               If they had any sense at all they would read the article before posting but then again, if they can hardly speak English it would probably make no difference.

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      IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It was me, I called you out in an open forum as I'd previously found your work n the hopper and noticed it was spun.
      
      Spinning is not acceptable here on HP, unless it is so well done that no-one notices, apparently. Even then, HP have software to track down spun articles and they will unpublish/ban.
      
      There was no 'backbiting and gosssiping' as you put it. There were no email exchanges between hubbers - everything is out in the open and you were intended to read it.
      
      Glad you have unpublished the offending hub. If you hadn't, HP would have.
      
      It is not hard to completely re-write something you want to write about without spinning.

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         nabuagermelineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         yeah my bad. i'm a super newbie in blogging and all i want really is an approved account from google adsense and i'm close to being a desperate of getting one.
         
         that's why i'm here taking chances to apply again. i guess i need to do the traditional way huh?

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   nabuagermelineposted 12 years ago

   those are lots of opinion. thanks.
   
   i only got 3 hubs and only one is a spun article so i can't be totally called a full spinner. i could erase it then.
   
   just now it's already deleted

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   rmcrayneposted 12 years ago

   OP has been banned from HubPages.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Jeez, what a tough town!

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         rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I was actually surprised to see "banned".  S/he removed the spun hub.  I looked at her other two hubs, and they were not spun.  Fitness related i believe.  I don't recall seeing affiliate links in any of them.  Not sure what her/his angle was.

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            PaulGoodman67posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Maybe it seems harsh to you, but I personally was suspcious of the 'I am just a newbie and I don't know what I'm doing' story, as I doubted that it  was genuine in this case.  I suspect that person has been banned before and it was another attempt to post copied/spun material under a new profile.  They were very familiar with spinning software for one thing and justifying it with weak excuses seems crappy to me.
            
            An inability to write English seemed like a weakness too.  If you can't form sentences in the forums, but your hubs are in perfect English it always looks very suspicious to me and is often a sign of plagiarism.

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               rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I agree with most everything you said Paul.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And congrats on the 1K!

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         rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks very much.  That last 200 or so just inched along.  Next milestone, 1M views.  At my current [low traffic] rate, it'll take me another 2 months.

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   IzzyMposted 12 years ago

   I had looked at her other two hubs at the same time as I found her spun hub, and while I could see no evidence of spinning on them, the sentences were clumsy and difficult to read, but not bad enough for me to flag them.
   
   I agree that was no newbie (to article writing) because newbies don't know about spinning software.
   
   Congrats on your 1000 followers Rosemary

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      rmcrayneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Izzy!

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