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Evidence of 'God particle' found

  1. Reality Bytes profile image83
    Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

    GENEVA – Scientists working at the world's biggest atom smasher plan to announce Wednesday that they have gathered enough evidence to show that the long-sought "God particle" answering fundamental questions about the universe almost certainly does exist.
    Martial Trezzini, AP

    Scientists working at the The Large Hadron Collider, the world's largest atom smasher, may have discovered the existence of "The God Particle."

    Scientists working at the The Large Hadron Collider, the world's largest atom smasher, may have discovered the existence of "The God Particle."


    But after decades of work and billions of dollars spent, researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, aren't quite ready to say they've "discovered" the particle.

    Instead, experts familiar with the research at CERN's vast complex on the Swiss-French border say that the massive data they have obtained will essentially show the footprint of the key particle known as the Higgs boson — all but proving it exists — but doesn't allow them to say it has actually been glimpsed.
    It appears to be a fine distinction.

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/st … 55981840/1

    If this is true, how much knowledge can be gained by this discovery.

    ( I am not under the illusion that God was actually discovered.)

  2. paradigmsearch profile image92
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    What if that particle is from the other guy...?

    1. profile image67
      logic,commonsenseposted 5 years ago

      What if there is no god?  What kind of particle is it then?

      1. Reality Bytes profile image83
        Reality Bytesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        LOL, I do not think anyone actually believes the particle proves the existence of a god.

    2. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
      Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years ago

      I think it makes more sense to just keep calling it the Higgs Boson particle.

      1. Reality Bytes profile image83
        Reality Bytesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        This!   ^^^^^^

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        Kathryn LJposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        But the Higgs Boson particle just sounds soooo commercial, who could possibly take it seriously.  Where as the God particle has stirred the interest of the religious forum guys, right up to the point they realised it was all about science.  Proving the existence of God?  Now that really would put the cat amongst the pigeons, what would they all rant about if there really where a god particle?  Well there would be no need for faith, for a start.

    3. knolyourself profile image60
      knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

      "[[may]] have discovered the existence".. For "billions of dollars spent," are they not required to find something?

      1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        It is the nature of research that you can only find some if 1) it is there and 2) you worked out how to find it.

        If the outcome was certain, the research would be unnecessary.

      2. Uninvited Writer profile image84
        Uninvited Writerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        99.9% sure...

    4. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      they have no parlay . we found something of no real use.

      1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah, the basic structure of reality and the universe.  Who would possibly care about that?

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          lol

    5. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      why do we want to know the basic structure?  to  tamper with it?

      1. paradigmsearch profile image92
        paradigmsearchposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Yep. We want to take apart hell, and put it back together as heaven.

      2. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Because we are curious and want to understand the world.

    6. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      we found it . ok now what? they have no answer that's all im  thinking.

    7. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      thats your reasoning?  sighs

      1. paradigmsearch profile image92
        paradigmsearchposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Hopefully, we wont screw it up. lol

    8. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      ever think we might create a god with this god particle?  we will all be shtin then right? lol

      1. paradigmsearch profile image92
        paradigmsearchposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I think there is a distinct possibility that we are going to technologically put our foot in it big-time sooner or later...

      2. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Um, no.  It's just a name.  It hasn't got any literal relation to God.

    9. knolyourself profile image60
      knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

      Think it means the all-and-everything particle or the Holy Grail.

    10. Paul Wingert profile image77
      Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago

      Religion has nothing to do with this. It's amusing to see the Bible thumpers throw in there two cents whenever a discovery or alteration in scientific theory comes up. What's funnier is that most people don't know what a theory is even though they work with them on a daily basis. One of the purposes of a theory is to be disproved. Throwing the Bible at the Big Bang and evolution does nothing to disprove it. It only generates laughter and sometimes pity. People forget that religion is in the business of promoting faith, not historical accuracy or scientific fact or theory.

    11. Reality Bytes profile image83
      Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

      I bought a copy of "Dancing Wu Li Masters: An Overview of the New Physics" yesterday.  I wonder if this new find is going to make the book irrelevant. smile

    12. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      curiosity  killed the cat

      1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Ignorance also kills a lot of cats

    13. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      what i posted was a old saying.       im not against  science. i love it.   i  participated in this forum  to discus  the implications and  possible applications  of the science in question.

      1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I posted a response to an old saying.  If you want to discuss the implication you might want to say what they are?  Rather than just the old 'knowing stuff is dangerous' trope.  How is knowing what really causes mass dangerous?

    14. quicksand profile image81
      quicksandposted 5 years ago

      Either Higgs or Bose exclaimed "that goddamed particle ... ! (This was stated in an article on HubPages! Unfortunately I did not bookmark it.)

      That goddamed particle does not show up or reveal its traits! When tempers cooled down, "goddamed" was shortened to what it is now referred to. (According to that article!)

      However, the characteristics of "that" particle if ever they are able to uncover may shed a lot of new light on many things.

    15. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      i purposed a possible purpose . we seek  the  way things work in order not just to understand   it but to  alter it tamper with the natural order of things.  maybe   we want to weaponize  . maybe we  are looking   for power source. maybe   to  create or become godlike. hell i don't know. they arnt saying. i simply brought up opening Pandora box  . its not just my fear.  argumentativeness is counter productive. and im sure the discovery wont address this  problem within society.  you have yet to put out one application for this discovery other than just to know. sorry   just  knowing something doesn't quench my   thirst.    just because is a answer you give a child when you don't know the answer .

      1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
        Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        You still don't have any specific suggestion as to what horror might emerge from understanding mass.

        It might just as easily lead to a kind of space flight that allows our species to not die when the earth dies.  All things have good and bad possibilities attached. 

        Saying "knowledge is scary and might kill us all" is not more or less valid that saying "knowledge is hope and might save us all".  Thus your comment and my response were equally vapid. The latter by design.

    16. paradigmsearch profile image92
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

      Pandora said to say hi. big_smile

    17. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      para  so you don't know either. the applications. jest is funny . but  not really helpful. remember that wonder fiber called asbestos ?

    18. paradigmsearch profile image92
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

      http://ndep.nv.gov/boff/percila.jpg
      My personal favorite...

    19. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      ty  a picture is worth a 1000 words. and you gave a example and a definitive possible outcome.   be it matter were talking about , its mastery . i hope the discovery is a step on our way to teleportation .

    20. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      if we master  matter. we will  become able to manipulate it.   logistics will become light speed and resources will be able to be taken  full advantage of. food would not sit in a dumpster while people starve . fuel will not be needed to perpetuate our purpose.

    21. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      let me not be misunderstood !

    22. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      if said particle be taking us into this realm of possibility . then i herald  its arrival . and sounds the trumpets.

    23. Nell Rose profile image94
      Nell Roseposted 5 years ago

      The higgs boson is just the glue that holds all the 'matter' in the universe together. it explains why everything does what it does. Thats it really. fascinating if you like physics and I love physics.

      1. paradigmsearch profile image92
        paradigmsearchposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I'm a pro-physics guy, myself.

    24. aware profile image69
      awareposted 5 years ago

      8 posts  ago i used the word asbestos . 2 posts ago nell posted and prompted me to  read a hub of hers.http://nell-rose.hubpages.com/hub/Gypsies-but-sometimes-Thieves-But-only-Funny-things. was that hub . a couple paragraphs into that hub was the word asbestos . there's a physics lesson in there some where. lol.

      1. Nell Rose profile image94
        Nell Roseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        thanks,  was it the higgs boson that sent you on your way? lol! for the life of me I can't see the connection between a higgs and a gypsy, any Ideas? Oh asbestos! lol!

        1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image75
          Nouveau Skepticposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I am struggling to see the connection to, perhaps you could charitably spell it out a bit more.

          I am not sure there is a closely connection with asbestos than, say, penicillin,

    25. paradigmsearch profile image92
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/5467440_f1024.jpg
      "God's Particle gets loose!"

      Tomorrow's headline. big_smile

      1. Nell Rose profile image94
        Nell Roseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        If the Higgs gets heartburn does it higgup? roll

    26. Nell Rose profile image94
      Nell Roseposted 5 years ago

      Interesting point about the name God particle. It started life as the Goda...ed particle, but was changed as people didn't approve of swearing! and the other reason was that, like God, it was all around us but couldn't be seen. So you see, its not really a God particle, its a God...ed particle! fact! just read it on the news page!

    27. Reality Bytes profile image83
      Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

      It is in the news!


      I congratulate the thousands of scientists around the globe for their outstanding work in searching for the Higgs boson," said U.S. Secretary of Energy Steven Chu. "Today's announcement on the latest results of this search shows the benefits of sustained investments in basic science by governments around the world. Scientists have been looking for the Higgs particle for more than two decades; these results help validate the Standard Model used by scientists to explain the nature of matter."


      http://phys.org/wire-news/102961126/sea … -part.html

      Fascinating discovery.

     
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