ERRATA: Meant powerlessness instead of powerless.
WHo said this?
"BUT I WILL FOREWARN YOU WHOM YOU SHALL FEAR: FEAR HIM, WHICH AFTER HE HATH KILLED HATH POWER TO CAST INTO HELL; YEA, I SAY UNTO YOU, FEAR HIM."
It sounds to me a reasonable thing to fear the most powerful being in the universe... I would prefer to obey Him than to spit at Him.
The question was about how religion causes fear. At least we agree - believers are scared of this god they believe in. Sad really.
I am not scared of God. I fear Him. Scared of Him means I think He is going to hurt me. I do not.
It is a respect... a knowledge of His power and strength. I put myself in my proper place... a pot... and I see Him in His rightful place... a potter. What power does a pot have? I do not incite my God to anger b/c I fear His power, but I am not afraid b/c I trust His love.
So you do indeed fear him then. OK Thanks. Trust his love? The guy that will throw you in hell if you don't grovel and fear him. LOL
Whose benefit do you mock for? What does it gain you? If God is real, and of this, I have no doubt... you will one day wonder for what great purpose you mocked the living God.
I guess I am hoping you will come to your senses and stop spreading fear. It just causes conflicts and hatred. See: history.
How can you mock something that does not exist? I mock the idea of trusting the "love" of a being that will punish you for not believing in it.
I don't "spread fear." Who started this thread about God and believers, me? No, I defend my God b/c I know Him to be good. Who came on to mock my God and believers? Me? No, you. To say I cause conflict or hatred is not an actual fact, is it?
You mock my God, you mock everyone who places their faith in Him, and to what end? What do you gain? You only instigate. This is not a rational way to spend your time if you believe something to be false.
I do not mock your god. I mock your ideas. Yes - fear causes conflict and hatred. You are spreading fear, and therefore spreading conflict and hatred. As religionists have done since the concept was first proposed. See: history.
Next I will start mocking the idea that your god is now so pathetic that it needs you to defend it.
Check my history? For the few crazies out there who claimed to be Christians? Ive heard of the crusades. Ive heard of the Salem witch trials... Have you checked your history? The list below is a drop in the bucket, 'cause after you read this, you need to imagine every church and individual who loves Christ and his fellow man.
Impact on modern society
Have Christians positively effected our society? It's been claimed that committed Christians have laid a foundation of compassion and caring in Western societies. Is this true?
Here are some examples along with links for further reading.
• The Church is the largest single provider of healthcare and education in the world, working especially in some of the poorest countries where there is no other care available. (Catholic church that is. Adding Evangelical church schools/hospitals means there is no close second provider.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_th … #Education
• The Church pioneered modern Social Work. Eg: Jane Addams
Jane Addams was the first American woman to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Also co-founded the first settlement house in the US. The Settlement Movement sought to bridge the gap between rich and poor in society: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_house
• London Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (London SPCC)
After campaigning from SPCC and the wider Church, the UK’s first ever law to protect children from abuse and neglect came into being. See Lord Shaftsbury , Rev B. Waugh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_S … en#History
• Save the Children. This large relief agency was founded by Eglantyne Jebb who also campaigned for social reform in this area. The Declaration of the Rights of the Child was adopted by the League of Nations. She also pioneered the Child Sponsorship program.
• Camillus de Lellis - founder of the original "Red Cross"
Thus De Lellis established the Order of Clerks Regular, Ministers to the Sick (abbreviated as M.I.), better known as the Camillians. His experience in wars led him to establish a group of health care workers who would assist soldiers on the battlefield. This was the original Red Cross, hundreds of years before the International Red Cross Organization was formed.
Members of the Order also devoted themselves to victims of Bubonic plague. A perilous work that no-one else seemed to want to do.
• Clara Barton - founder and first president of the American Red Cross
She was a pioneer American teacher, patent clerk, nurse, and humanitarian. At a time when relatively few women worked outside the home, Barton built a career helping others. One of her greatest accomplishments was founding the American Red Cross. This organization helps victims of war and disasters. She hoped to be a pioneer for women in service to her country. She was probably the first woman to hold a government job.
• Action for Children. Pioneered the first "Children's Homes". (top 20 biggest charities in the UK)
Its mission statement asserts that it is committed to helping the most vulnerable and neglected children and young people break through injustice, deprivation and inequality. The charity works with over 50,000 children and young people whose families need support, who are in care, who are disabled or who experience severe difficulties in their lives through 480 projects, services and schools. It also promotes social justice through research and by lobbying and campaigning for change. Founded by Methodist minister Thomas Bowman Stephenson (1839-1912) who was "moved by the fate of street children in London."
• Barnardo’s homes – world’s largest orphanage system. Founded by Thomas John Barnardo.
• Churches were the first orphanages
In the High Middle Ages, abandoning unwanted children finally eclipsed infanticide. Unwanted children were left at the door of church or abbey, and the clergy was assumed to take care of their upbringing. This practice also saw the birth of the first orphanages.
• From Roman times, advocacy against infanticide and polygamy etc.
Early Church Fathers advocated against polygamy, abortion, infanticide, child abuse...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_th … man_Empire
• Strengthening of marriage from Roman times
Church teaching heavily influenced the legal concept of marriage. During the Gregorian Reform, the Church developed and codified a view of marriage as a sacrament.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_th … man_Empire
• Protection of young people in our society: English Factory reform bill and anti-poor movement,- Richard Oastler
http://www.christianhistorytimeline.com … 2002.shtml
• Campaign for the protection of children from abuse. Passionate Christian Josephine Butler campaigned for the age of consent to be set and was a key figure in other social reforms.
• Care for the elderly and disabled in society. Christians birthed Almshouse institutions as early as the 10th century. Conditions in these Almshouses were not always good and there was a social stigma attached to them, however, Almshouses did their best to serve the local community with the little resources they had and cared for those who were abandoned by society. They were the forerunner of nursing homes and hospitals. They sought to provide care for those who were no longer able to work. Almshouses are still active today with some 2,600 in the UK alone.
• Impact on language, literature and culture
The Authorized Version of the Bible has been called "the most influential version of the most influential book in the world, in what is now its most influential language", "the most important book in English religion and culture", and "the most celebrated book in the English-speaking world".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized … #Influence
• Impact on civil liberties
The Magna Carta is considered one of the most important documents in human history; vitally important as an early foundation of law in Western society. It is considered the founding document of English liberties and hence American liberties. The influence of Magna Carta can be seen in the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Lord Denning described it as "the greatest constitutional document of all times – the foundation of the freedom of the individual against the arbitrary authority of the despot". The man responsible for drafting it's content was Stephen Langton (Archbishop of Canterbury). Various "Barons" were also implicated in the construction of the Magna Carta, but Stephen Langton is believed to be the central architect.
• Impact on civil liberties
Rev.Martin Luther King Jr., a man of great courage and faith who was at the centre of the civil rights movement. He continued despite attempts on his life including a fire bomb attack on his family home. In 1964, King became the youngest person to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his work to end racial segregation and racial discrimination through civil disobedience and other nonviolent means. His father and grandfather were both ordained ministers. The U.S. have declared the 3rd Monday in January to be an annual public holiday in his honour. Written on his memorial are the concluding words from his "I have a dream speech": ""Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"
http://www.biography.com/people/martin- … jr-9365086
• Prison reform. The Quakers pioneered prison reform during the Victorian age. Suggested basic human rights for prisoners and teaching prisoners a trade etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_ref … ed_Kingdom
Today, Prison Fellowship International (amongst other Christian ministries) works around the globe in prisons to help reform and rehabilitate prisoners:
http://www.pfi.org/media-and-news/news/ … index_html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Fel … ernational
• The 7th Earl of Shaftsbury was inspired by his faith to do many things.
He became a Tory MP (Member of Parliament) in 1826, and almost immediately became a leader of the movement for factory reform. He was responsible for promoting a plethora of reform causes, including the Factory Acts of 1847 and 1853, the Ten Hour Bill, as well as the Mines and Collieries Act 1842 and the Lunacy Act 1845. One of his chief interests was the welfare of children, and he was chairman of the Ragged Schools Union and a keen supporter of Florence Nightingale. He was also involved as patron and president in the field of model dwellings companies, which sought to improve the housing of working classes in England.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_As … haftesbury
• Braille worldwide system used by blind and visually impaired people.
Louis Braille was an innovator. Lying on his deathbed he said, “God was pleased to hold before my eyes the dazzling splendors of eternal hope…” His system is now used on a worldwide basis.
• Pioneering free or low cost health care for the terminally ill in our society dying of cancer.
Macmillan nurses. Douglas Macmillan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macmillan_ … rt#History
Rose Hawthorne Lathrop created the first homes/treatment centers for cancer patients in the US. St. Rose's Free Home for Incurable Cancer
• Promotion of International fair trade for the poorest societies in the world. Tearfund.
Trade justice movement, Make Poverty History. Richard Adams OBE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ad … idcraft%29
• Habitat for Humanity, one of the largest charities in the US which internationally provides housing for the poor. Founder Millard Fuller
• Shelter - one of the UK's biggest charities dedicated to ministry amongst the homeless.
Shelter is a registered charity that campaigns to end homelessness and bad housing in England and Scotland. It gives advice, information and advocacy to people in need, and tackles the root causes of bad housing by lobbying government and local authorities for new laws and policies to improve the lives of homeless and badly housed people.
• Salvation Army,- disaster relief, homeless missions, charity shops, caring for poor and downtrodden in many different countries. In 1994, the Chronicle of Philanthropy, an industry publication, released the results of the largest study of charitable and non-profit organization popularity and credibility. The study showed that The Salvation Army was ranked as the 4th "most popular charity/non-profit in America" of over 100 charities researched with 47% of Americans over the age of 12 choosing Love and Like A Lot for The Salvation Army. Charity Watch rates the Salvation Army an "A-" to an "A".Founder William Booth
• Leprosy Missions. Dr. Paul Wilson Brand was a pioneer in developing tendon transfer techniques for use in the hands of those with leprosy. He spent 19 years serving in India. During his career, Dr. Brand received many awards and honors. He was awarded the Hunterian professorship of the Royal College of Surgeons in 1952 etc…
Leprosy Mission International has over 130 years experience working with people that are considered “untouchable” in some societies. Founded by Wellesley Bailey in the 1860s.
• Kenneth L. Pike - World renowned linguist
Working for Wycliffe Bible translators, K.L. Pike became one of the worlds leading linguists with significant contributions to the field. His book "Phonetics", "revolutionized the thinking in the field" according to Prof. Eric Hamp. Hamp continues," It is fair to say that something like one half of all the raw data from exotic languages that has been placed at the disposal of theoretical linguists in the past quarter century can be attributed to the influence, and efforts of Kenneth Pike." He originated the Tagmemics theory.
• Dr. Carl Becker - Missionary Doctor and Leprosy expert
News of Dr. Beckers compassion spread and literally thousands of lepers sought out his help. By the early 1950s he was treating some four thousand resident patients on an eleven hundred acre property. Leprosy specialists worldwide also visited to learn from him, even the world's leading expert Dr. Robert Cochrane of Cambridge University was impressed with his findings. He lived in hostile conditions in the Congo, Africa where other people might not care to go.
• Sight to the blind. Dr. Victor C Rambo was a passionate Christian who could have made a lot of money as a doctor in the US. Instead he lived in India where he “worked from dawn ‘til dusk” operating on cataracts where little or no other help was available. Literally thousands of patients were helped through his ministry who would have otherwise been left seriously visually impaired or gone blind.
http://www.amazon.com/Apostle-Sight-Vic … 0915684543
• Ministry to young people in our society – YMCA founded in 1844. Nobel Peace Prize winners. John Mott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mott
Founded by George Williams:
• World Vision, 1950 – child sponsorship, one of largest relief and development agencies in the US. Founded by Dr. Robert Pierce
• Samaritans Purse. Humanitarian organisation reaching those suffering in war, poverty, famine, disease and disaster. Franklin Graham
• Education UK. An overwhelming number of early education establishments were Christian before the State took over.
•In the UK, faith schools (Christian and Jewish) dominate the league table of performance. Two thirds of the 50 best performing institutions were Church of England, Roman Catholic or Jewish. This comes despite the fact that faith schools account for only one in every three schools.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ables.html
• Lech Wałęsa. Devout Christian and charismatic president of Poland 1990-95. World renowned human rights activist. Winner of numerous international awards including the Nobel Peace prize 1983 and awarded over 30 honorary doctorates from universities worldwide. Co-founder of Solidarity, the Soviet bloc's first independent trade union.
• Dr. Ida Scudder - Missionary Doctor to India
Dedicated her life to womens health in India. Her reputation was so high that women and girls used to seek her out just to touch her. Doctors all over India sent their most difficult gynecological cases to her. She became so well known that a letter simply addressed "To: Dr. Ida, India" reached her in a country of over three hundred million people. In 1918, she started one of Asia's foremost teaching hospitals.
• David Bussau AM (born November 10, 1940) is a pioneer of microfinance, having founded Opportunity International Australia and co-founded the Opportunity International Network. He has been hailed for his innovative approach to solving world poverty by challenging the conventional wealth distribution model of development, addressing the root causes of poverty through responsible wealth creation. According to the World Bank, micro-enterprise has proven to be one of the most effective and sustainable ways to solve poverty.
• Rev. Thomas Hopkins Gallaudet, LL.D., (December 10, 1787 – September 10, 1851) was a renowned American pioneer in the education of the deaf. He co-founded and raised funds for the first institution for the education of the deaf in North America. For many years he was principal of that institution. His son Edward Miner Gallaudet (1837–1917) founded in 1864 the first college for the deaf which in 1986 became Gallaudet University.
• Charles Loring Brace (June 19, 1826 in Litchfield, Connecticut - August 11, 1890) was a contributing philanthropist in the field of social reform. He is considered a father of the modern foster care movement and was most renowned for starting the Orphan Train movement of the mid-19th century, and for founding The Children's Aid Society.
• Despite being crippled himself, John Pounds (1766-1839) was the man most responsible for the creation of the concept of “Ragged Schools” (charitable schools dedicated to the free education of destitute children). Working in the poorest districts, teachers initially utilised stables, lofts, and railway arches for their classes. The success of the Ragged Schools definitively demonstrated that there was a demand for education among the poor.
• Robert Raikes ("the Younger") (14 September 1736 – 5 April 1811) was an English philanthropist and Anglican layman, noted for his promotion of Sunday schools. Pre-dating state schooling and by 1831 schooling 1,250,000 children, they are seen as the first schools of the English state school system.
The movement started with a school for boys in the slums.
• Friedrich Wilhelm August Fröbel (or Froebel) (April 21, 1782 – June 21, 1852) laid the foundation for modern education based on the recognition that children have unique needs and capabilities. He developed the concept of the “kindergarten”, and also coined the word now used in German and English.
• Supporting mothers and families worldwide - The Mothers' Union (founded 1876)
Mothers’ Union is an international Christian charity that seeks to support families worldwide. It main aim is to support marriage and family life, especially through times of adversity.
Particularly concerned with the plight of women in the world, its projects include literacy and development, parenting, micro finance and campaigning against violence against women and the trafficking of women. The Mothers' Union is part of Make Poverty History and the Jubilee Debt Coalition.
• Pioneering education for women. Mary Lyon 1797-1849.
She valued socioeconomic diversity and endeavored to make the seminary affordable for students of modest means.
• Thomas Cogan. Humane Society. A humane society is a group that aims to stop human or animal suffering due to cruelty or other reasons, although in many countries, it is now used mostly for societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals (SPCAs). In the United Kingdom, it may also be a society that provides a waterways rescue, prevention, and recovery service, or that gives awards for the saving of human life (see: Royal Humane Society).
• Royal Society for the prevention of cruelty to Animals founded by Christians (William Wilberforce). It is the oldest and largest animal welfare organisation in the world and is one of the largest charities in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Soci … to_Animals
• One of the largest international literacy organisations in the world, SIL International, brings literacy to thousands of the world's poorest language communities.
• Frank Laubach. Committed Christian and pioneer of world literacy. Known as the “Apostle to the Illiterates” the programs he developed have been used to teach about 60 million people to read their own language. He was deeply concerned about poverty, injustice and illiteracy, and considered them barriers to peace in the world.
• Food for the Poor. Since 1982, Food for the Poor has distributed more than $8.2 billion worth of food, medicine, housing materials,water and other aid to the poor of the Caribbean and Latin America
• Meeting the needs of children in poverty-stricken areas. Mission Of Mercy
• George Mueller - orphanages and education
Mueller took no salary for himself. By 1870 his orphanages had multiplied and they were caring for two thousand children. He was well-known for providing an education to the children under his care, to the point where he was accused by some of “raising the poor above their natural station in life.”
Pioneering International orphan care. Amy Wilson Carmichael
• Dr. Helen Rosevere - missionary doctor to the Congo
Dr. Rosevere, a single missionary woman started a medical mission in the Nebobongo area of the Congo. She trained national workers and invested a lot of time and energy into caring for local people. She stayed on in Congo through politically unsettling times and suffered much abuse at the hands of rebels (beatings and rape). Incredibly, despite this she endured and courageously returned to Congo to continue her mission work.
• Jackie Pullinger MBE (born 1944) is a British Protestant Christian charismatic missionary to Hong Kong and founder of the St Stephen's Society. She has been ministering in Hong Kong since 1966. Her work has resulted in at least 500 drug addicts being saved from their drug addictions. The early years of her Hong Kong ministry are chronicled in the book Chasing the Dragon.
• Christian Aid. Christian Aid is one of the biggest international development agencies in the world. It was formed and is still supported by the major Christian churches in the British Isles. Its headquarters are in London. It works with local partner organizations in over 70 countries around the world to help the world's poorest communities. Christian Aid states it works where the need is greatest, regardless of religion, nationality or race.
• Education US. Out of the initial 110 universities started in the US, 100 had Christian foundations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of … ted_States
• Temperance Movement to address the abuse of alcohol in society.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperance … by_country
• Pioneering surgery on infants. Dr. C. Everett Koop. Koop performed groundbreaking surgical procedures on conjoined twins, invented techniques which today are commonly used for infant surgery, and saved the lives of countless children who otherwise might have been allowed to die.
• Michael Faraday. Contributed extensively to the fields of Electromagnetism and Electrochemistry.
Known as “one of the most influential scientists in history. Historians of science refer to him as the best experimentalist in the history of science.” Discovered Benzene, invented early form of Bunsen Burner.
• Alcoholics Anonymous helps 2 million people. It's emergence was inspired by the Christian "Oxford Group".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics … beginnings
Co-founder Bill claimed a dramatic spiritual experience of God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_W.#A_ … r_recovery
Co-founder Dr. Bob Smith said that AA's basic ideas came from their study of the Bible; the Steps, in essence meant "love and service."
Narcotics Anonymous is also based on the above mentioned 12-step program.
• Pioneers of professional nursing and caring. The first official nurses’ training program, the Nightingale School for Nurses, opened in 1860. The mission of the school was to train nurses to work in hospitals, work with the poor, and to teach. Florence Nightingale "the mother of modern nursing". She said that God had called her just before her 17th birthday. Although later in life it is said that she wrote a document questioning the divinity of Christ, so it it unsure if she held to an orthodox Christian theology at that time.
• Amnesty International. Justice and liberty for oppressed people all over the world.
Started in 1961 by two Christians Peter Beneson and Eric Baker.
Nobel Peace prize 1977 for campaign against torture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_In … al#History
• (UK) Recent research showed that 81% of evangelical Christians do some kind of voluntary work at least once a month. This compares with a much lower figure of 26% for the population at large, obtained in citizenship surveys by the Department for Communities and Local Government, and is consistent with comparable differences identified by researchers in North America.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree … ntary-work
Similar results were confirmed through a five-year study by the political scientists David Campbell and Robert Putman.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo … 5_ST_N.htm
• Oxfam was one of the pioneers of modern famine relief. It works to address famine and injustice on a worldwide scale. Founded by Quaker Christians in Oxford in 1942.
Debra Green OBE - founder of Redeeming Our Communities
Since 2003 Debra has been National Director of Redeeming Our Communities or ROC: this charity aims to bring about community transformation by creating strategic partnerships which open up opportunities for crime and disorder reduction and improved community cohesion.
Over the following years, stories of community transformation emerged across the nation, some of which were collected together for Debra's 2008 book 'Redeeming Our Communities: 21st Century Miracles of Social Transformation'.
In recognition of her work towards community cohesion, she was awarded an OBE in June 2012
The good works still continue. Here is a more recent sampling:
• People who "do God, do good" - admits British Politician.
Churches alone are providing almost 100 million hours of unpaid volunteer work on social projects a year, up by more than a third in two years, while donations for such work are up by a fifth, it found. Despite the economic situation, church members alone have increased their donations to social action projects by 19 per cent in two years to £342 million.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio … Warsi.html
Churches step into void in recession-hit Britain.
The scale of Britain’s reliance on churches to meet social needs is set out in a report showing more than half of Anglican parishes run services such as food banks, homework clubs and even street patrols.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio … itain.html
• Street Pastors is an initiative of Ascension Trust. Individual street pastors are Christian adults with a concern for their community, who undergo 12 days of training in order to voluntarily patrol the streets of towns and cities at night, helping and caring for people in practical ways. The initiative began in the United Kingdom and is now being operated in other countries. Many police services, in areas such as London and Scotland, have praised the scheme. Ascension Trust reports that reduction in crime figures have been recorded in areas where the Street Pastors initiatives have been operating, which have been confirmed by official police figures.
Politicians who have expressed admiration or support for the scheme include UK Prime Minister David Cameron and Mayor of London Boris Johnson. Frank Soodeen of the pressure group Alcohol Concern has also praised the work of Street Pastors, for their work assisting drunken young people to get home safely. A number of local Street Pastor groups have won community awards.
Whilst some individuals have reacted negatively, the general public response to Street Pastors has been markedly positive, even among those who have been observed being abusive to the emergency services.
• Kindernothilfe (KNH) is a charity organization and was founded in 1959 by a group of Christians in Duisburg, Germany, in order to help needy children in India. Over time, it has become one of the largest Christian organizations in Europe for children's aid.
Today it supports more than 580,000 children and young people in 28 countries in Africa, Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe. KNH aims to give needy children in the poorest countries of the world a chance to a good start in life.
• Caritas Internationalis is a confederate of 164 Roman Catholic relief, development and social service organisations operating in over 200 countries and territories worldwide. Collectively and individually their mission is to work to build a better world, especially for the poor and oppressed.
• Children of the Nations (COTN) was founded in 1995 and exists to partner with nationals in poverty-stricken areas of the world to provide care for orphaned and destitute children. Operating in Malawi, Sierra Leone, the Dominican Republic, and Uganda, COTN helps nearly 7,000 children on a daily basis. COTN's stated goal is to "Raise children who transform nations."
• Christian Foundation for Children and Aging (CFCA) is a nonprofit sponsorship organization headquartered in Kansas City, Kansas. CFCA was founded by lay Catholic workers acting on the Gospel call to serve the poor. Its Hope for a Family sponsorship program provides basic necessities like food, education, clothing and access to medical care to children and elderly in some of the world's poorest communities. Today, CFCA sponsors support more than 300,000 children, youth and aging persons in 22 countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_ … and_Aging_(CFCA)
• CORD (Christian Outreach Relief and Development) - New life after conflict CORD is a humanitarian organisation working with displaced people and communities affected by violent conflicts around the world. Established in 1967 and rooted in Christian faith. Located in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_ … evelopment
• Christians Against Poverty (CAP) is a Christian charitable company in the United Kingdom founded in Bradford, West Yorkshire by John Kirkby in 1996. It is a national organisation specialising in debt counselling for individuals in financial difficulty, including those in need ofbankruptcy or insolvency.
• Compassion International is a Christian child sponsorship organization dedicated to the long-term development of children living in poverty around the world. Compassion International, headquartered in Colorado Springs, functions in 26 countries such as Bolivia, Colombia, Mexico, Haiti, Kenya, and India. They also currently help more than 1,200,000 children.
• Cross International Alliance (Cross) is an inter-denominational Christian relief and development organization based in South Florida that provides food, shelter, education, medical care and emergency aid to the poor in over 30 countries across the globe. Cross was recently recognized for its work in Haiti, receiving a $4.8 million grant from the U.S. government for a new program seeking to care for children and families impacted by AIDSin the country. From its headquarters in Pompano Beach, Cross raises millions of dollars through donations each year to fund development programs that target the “poorest of the poor” in developing countries, and it ships millions of dollars worth of humanitarian goods to high-need areas such as Kenya and Nicaragua.
• Hope UK is a national Christian charity located at 25(f) Copperfield Street, London, England which educates children and young people about drug and alcohol abuse. It began as the Band of Hope in 1847 in Leeds, to teach children the importance and principles of sobriety andteetotalism. In 1855, a national organisation was formed amidst an explosion of Band of Hope work. Meetings were held in churches throughout the UK and included Christian teaching.
• Medair is an international non-governmental organization NGO of humanitarian aid with a stated mission, "to seek out and serve the most vulnerable people affected by crises." Medair’s core competencies are emergency relief and rehabilitation. Medair lists its values as: hope, compassion, dignity, accountability, integrity, and faith.
• Medical Teams International (formerly Northwest Medical Teams) is a non-profit humanitarian aid and global health organization. Medical Teams International has mobilized 2,000 teams since 1979, shipped $1.3 billion in medical aid since 1986, provided care to 4.5 million people in 53 nations in 2008, sent more than 2,600 volunteers serving annually in its various programs all over the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_Te … ernational
• Mercy Ministries is an international, Evangelical, charismatic, Christian, charitable organization that offers a long-term residential program for young women aged 13–28 who struggle with various "life controlling" issues. In 2008, the top issues that Mercy Ministries reported themselves to be dealing with were: eating disorders (69%), self-harm (60%), sexual abuse (55%), emotional/verbal abuse (55%), depression (55%), chemical dependency (49%), physical abuse (37%) and pregnancy (6%)
• The Message Trust is an award-winning Christian charity working to improve the lives of young people in Greater Manchester, UK and beyond through the Eden Network.
Working in schools, in local communities and in prisons, The Message is in contact with around 100,000 young people across Greater Manchester each year. The Message was founded by well-known speaker, author and current chief executive, Andy Hawthorne OBE.
• Prospects is a Christian charity in the United Kingdom whose aim is to support learning disabled adults, and to enable them to reach their full potential. It was founded in the mid-1970s by David Potter, a Christian minister, who was drawn to the needs of these adults because he and his wife had a daughter with Down's syndrome.
• Tiny Hands International (THI) is a Christian nonprofit organization dedicated to helping orphaned and abandoned children and fighting sex trafficking in South Asia. Tiny Hands operates through national non-governmental organizations (NGOs) in Nepal, Bangladesh, and India.
• VisionTrust is an international, non-denominational non-profit organization that assists orphanedand impoverished children around the world. The organization works alongside Christian Nationals to help children gain education, nutritional support, medical assistance and spiritual discipleship. VisionTrust works in schools, orphanages, learning centers and medical clinics. They offer child sponsorships, short-term mission trips, and assist churches with educational materials to promote participation in this effort
• World Concern is a Christian humanitarian organization that operates relief and development programs in 13 countries, and funds partnership programs in nine other countries. The organization’s mission statement is, “World Concern provides life, opportunity and hope to suffering people around the world, through disaster response and development programs. Motivated by our love of Christ, we bring hope and reconciliation to those we serve, so they may in turn share with others.”
you should make that into a hub. you'd get more eyes on it for sure. the only ones who ever come here besides the active participants are the bored looky-loos
What would we do without your fear mongering? So - you religionists raped the world for 2,000 years and now you spread the fear of the lord on wikipedia? Oh dear.
Here are some secular charities for ya - http://righteousatheist.hubpages.com/hu … -Charities
Didn't need 2,000 years of fear mongering and war either.
an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat
be afraid of (someone or something) as likely to be dangerous, painful, or threatening
What makes it worse is that you are afraid of something that doesn't exist. This is why religion was invented. It gets people to do things for people they wouldn't otherwise say out of fear.
... righteous (Romans 3:10) ... the humility of your user name speaks volumes ... your pronounced "fear of God" is well placed ... the believers fear is one of reverence for father ... while it appears yours is a fear of retribution (Hebrews 10:31) of the believer has no fear ... yet your words are uplifting to believers since you, apparently a non-believer, fulfilled words of prophesy in the Bible ... the same as those others that crucified Jesus Christ the savior (Psalm 22) ... you see God uses all people in His plan ... thanks for comments ...
This is untrue. Fear is fear, not reverence. Please read this to be able to actually understand what the bible teaches rather than twisting what it says to pretend that fear means something other than fear. http://thaumaturgical.com/bible-teaches-fear-love/
I thought it was a sin to twist the word of god. Not so?
Thanks for validating my opinion of your religion.
... thanks but i'll stick with the Word of God ... had enough "scientific" nonsense ... it changes from day to day and person to person ... one does not justify a position or make themselves relevant by joining the worldly "book of the month" club ... a suggestion might be to read the meaning of words of the Bible in their context rather than listen to others express an opinion (which includes my opinion) ... in other words think for yourself and investigate objectively ... then take a stand with proofs, not opinions ... the Bible is quite clear and correct in Its statements, though at times, clarity calls for more than skimming through ... to fear God is to love Him ... and ... to fear God is to understand that this is His world and His rules apply ... there is no fickleness ... He has done as He said and will do as He said ... the fear the unbelieving man has toward the retribution of God is well placed not misplaced ... but which definition of fear fits is each man's choice ...
Didn't bother reading the bible or the article I linked to then? I don't fear your imaginary being - sorry. Much as you try and spread fear, it does not work on me.
Please try understanding "in context" and maybe you will stop twisting the word of god to suit yourself. I thought that was a sin - not so?
"Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence? "
Fear means fear - not love. This is why your religion has caused so many conflicts - fear mongering.
"Fear ye not me? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence? " ... at least you got that much right so far ... but as usual it is a half quote to suit a position ... let me help ... here is the whole thought in context ... Jeremiah 5:21-23
21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:
22 Fear ye not me ? saith the Lord: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?
23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.
... there are several things that cause me fear but all have to do with the physical ... and God calms my fears ... thanks for the input ...
Please take it in context? I have read and understood the bible. Fear means fear - please stop twisting the word of god to pretend it means something else.
Nothing you added "for context" changes the fact that fear means fear. Sorry. Not even sure what point you are trying to make other than simply defending your fear. I know you fear.
Thanks for validating my opinion of your religion.
Fear doesn't mean fear.
A day doesn't mean a day even when it's proceeded by the definition of a day.
A global flood means a regional flood.
A slave is not a slave.
Does this calm you?
"However, you may purchase male and female slaves from among the nations around you.You may also purchase the children of temporary residents who live among you, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat them as slaves, but you must never treat your fellow Israelites this way."
How about this?
"But suppose the man’s accusations are true, and he can show that she was not a virgin.The woman must be taken to the door of her father’s home, and there the men of the town must stone her to death, for she has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by being promiscuous while living in her parents’ home. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you."
Or is it the concept of a God that calms you? The idea of an afterlife?
Odd that the threat of eternal punishment calms some people. Seems to me they are not being strictly honest with themselves - either that or attempting to defend an untenable, irrational position. Probably why this religion has caused so many conflicts.
"I mean, you can read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins, you can read "God Is Not Great" by Hitchens... but the Bible itself, will turn you atheist faster than anything." Penn Jillette
I think that is the point. None of them have taken the bible in context. They simply make a claim about "love" and as they have not actually read their bible they don't see the obvious contradiction in loving a god that murders indiscriminately. Any moral person would despise this god. But - then again - they cannot determine what is moral for themselves.
You would base your beliefs on anything Penn Jillete said? He's a magician! Two days ago you were quoting John Lennon as your go to philosopher. Your willingness to allow ppl on a stage, shape your world view is nothing short of gullible and yet you accuse Believers of being gullible every day. You have created your own gods.
I would have liked to take credit for those words myself, but that's not polite. Penn's view seem to line up perfectly with mine. I was an atheist long before I ever heard of Penn.
Who's words do you base your beliefs on? Do you know who the writers were? Do you really think your loving God would demand the stoning to death of a girl not found to be a virgin on her wedding night. Notice he says he has the power to do it himself but demand other people to murder her which is again one of his own rules. Do not murder of member of your own tribe, unless I tell you to. What happens if the man is found to not be a virgin? Wonder who wrote that law?
Here in a nutshell is the difference. I formed my own lack of beliefs from reading the bible and thinking and then found others who think the same way. You listened to some writings of people thousands of years ago, who (most of which) didn't even say who they were and believed them based on what they said despite the evidence.
I understand. Yes, I base my beliefs on words that are thousands of years old and trusted by billions of ppl over thousands of years. I'm glad you are not reliant on entertainers for your wisdom.
These are the same people that burned witches and murdered homosexuals in the name of god, I take it. And - no one knows who wrote the words. What a scary thing to base your beliefs on.
Still - at least you probably discount a lot of it as nonsense such as women preachers and divorce and what not.
Actually, the ppl who wrote the Bible are nothing like those who burned ppl at the stake. And you do not know me or anything about my beliefs or my life. As long as you lump "believers" together in a box with a god you have created in your mind, you will never have understanding.
You were the one claiming billions of people trusting it for thousands of years. Now you want to distance yourself from them? Odd that you are happy to lump yourself in with all the other believers until the fact that there has been 2,000 years of murder in the name of the Lord is pointed out.
I distance myself from those who claim to be believers, but do not do the will of God.
Odd that you claimed kinship with them in that case. Killing witches and homosexuals is the will of god is it not?
Here is a link that explains it better than I can, but as always... one verse should not be taken out of context.
Oh I see, you can supply the writing of people that can better explain your thoughts, but I can't? What's up with that?
I questioned your choice of allowing a magician and a musician to influence your beliefs.
You explained why you did and I didn't give you any more grief for it.
I found it easier to use an essay already written out than to write one myself, knowing it would be immediately dismissed.
Still, not able to understand or are you deliberately attempting to portray me as something I'm not. I didn't allow them to influence my beliefs, I used them because there use of words to illustrate my thoughts are far superior to what I'd so.
Understand yet. or will I need to say it again?
I didn't explain to you why I allowed a magician and a musician to influence my beliefs. See?
But the essay can easily be dismissed as well.
So, this is what I can make out of the story.
It was the will of God for people to kill people for things we today understand to be not even a crime. But, God became tired of all the killing and hating so he sent his son (or part of himself) down to earth to be tortured and sacrificed so that we no longer have to sacrifice animals anymore, all we have to do is ask God for forgiveness and anything will be forgiven.
I think that covers it. This particular tribe was inventing it's own God just as many of the tribes in the area were doing as a way of controlling behaviour and giving it's army and people a sense of entitlement.
Actually, the writers of the bible were the people telling people to burn and stone people to death. That's why people did those things.
Funny, perhaps you were not able to understand. I used the words of those entertainers because they are way better said than I could be.
Would you like me to instead quote from the bible to illustrate why the God of the bible is not what you say he is?
Are song lyrics and eloquent words not allowed?
You didn't answer my questions about why God would have people stone a girl for not being a virgin on here weeding night when he demands that we don't murder people of our own tribe? BTW, he thinks it's okay to murder people of other tribes.
You doubt God's judgements. You doubt His goodness. You doubt His reliability. You doubt His existence. There is no way to explain anything about God to you. Many have tried. Your door is locked and bolted. I can explain nothing to you that you will not fire down before the words leave my mouth. I would help you if I could, but you do not want help.
I'm attempting to help you see through the lies. Once and a while someone looks at it honestly and realizing what it is, but some are afraid to because they were told to do is evil.
What you are attempting to do is like the equivalent of me trying to convince you that the Quran is the word of God. Do you think I could do that? How about the book of Mormon? The difference between you and me is that I've rejected one more book than you as being the word of God.
Yes TM, but you rejected the truth and you don't know it. I am attempting to help you understand that.
I wonder if you have actually read this bible. You are instructed not to do that. Maybe you should try reading it?
This kind of game is why I exit a thread. I love to play with fun ppl. I enjoy trolls for this reason.... fun trolls, not the harmful, mean ones. I do not however, play ridiculous games that are pointless. Not enjoyable.
It's so simple a child can understand. It's you who spends his days going out of his way to complicate the truth.
Then show me it's the truth? You simply saying it's the truth is no closer to the truth than a Muslim saying the Quran is the truth.
How many years can we all give you, answering every question, over and over and over again. From one person to the next, asking the same questions, dismissing the same answers. We cant help you b/c you are not here to search for truth, you are here to scoff at it.
Definition of religion from Google dictionary:
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed; More
a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
"consumerism is the new religion"
I meditate everyday . . . my God is my higher self and my electro-magnetic vibrations with the universe. It is a person's choice - the religion she chooses . . . fear and powerlessness are choices as well. My choice is to radiate universal love from my heart center.
So - why use the Capitalized word God?
People use capitalized word God as the supreme entity of the Universe. There are many gods ,basically in the locality of the earth, that also includes the main head of false gods as satan.
Though the God of the Universe does Identify himself through Hebrew and Greek scriptures ,as YHWH!, Meaning Jehovah in our language today. He separates himself from any others that claim his position, his name is sited and pronounced over ,7000 times ,if you quoted your name in a book that many times ,there would be no doubt that is want you want to called.
Sorry - I wasn't asking you for your irrational beliefs. I was asking the other person why they capitalized the word god when their god was something other than your make believe Invisible Super Being.
Since you did not personally state a name of direction or a pacific person to reply I use the reply button and answered,
You are welcome to your opinion, I respect that ,but you do not have to be disrespectful to others by your reply in choice of words.
When no one is treating you that way.
So - why use the Capitalized word God?
Is your exact words ,no name of direct reply.
Disrespectful in how you attack a persons belief of their true God. The words you use is not accepted and certainly none peaceable.
This is what I said and the person I quoted:
So - obviously the question was directed at them As their god is "my higher self and my electro-magnetic vibrations with the universe". So I was interested why they used capitalization.
Oh - please feel free to give me some reasons why I should not point out that your beliefs are irrational and your god does not exist. How is that an "attack" exactly? And why should I respect such a ridiculous belief? This is the god that punishes people that don't believe in it with eternal damnation - right?
No you are not correct ! You are like for example a false witness identifying the wrong man in a line up.
You see all religion alike, also you also make all gods alike ,not so,
if I were to say all men are alike, and you do not exist because you do not make sense to me in your statements ,does that mean you do not exist ?
That is how you are understood to me.
I do no such thing. Please stop bearing false witness against me. Your god does not exist. None do. How is that an "attack" exactly? Glad you reject the god described in the bible now. You know - the one that throws unbelievers in the lake of fire. Which make believe god is it you believe in in that case?
Any time you would like to explain why I should respect your irrational beliefs I am open to it.
Hello Righteous Athieist,
My avatar on hubpages is YogaKat, the "one" you responded to about the capitalizAtion of the word g/God. I believe it is "proper" english to capitalize the word G/god. As writers it our choice whether to employ proper grammar when writing about our passions. For me personally, on a creative/ spiritual level I like capitalizing my higher self/God. I find my writing also to be much crisper and clear when I do. I don't like to debate about mundane things. . . so I'm done after this.
Interesting that you only want to spout about mundane things and then leave the discussion. "Proper" usage of the capitals for the word god involves only capitalizing it as a proper name. I understand that you feel the need to capitalize it to confuse the issue. Please feel free go back to less mundane things than interacting with your fellow human beings. Sorry to have bothered you with something so beneath you.
Well your question can go any direction ,because there are many religions,most Christian and non Christian , Fear and powerless in religion is the use of hell fire, none truth,if they can read Hebrew and Greek terminology , hell does not exist, people use money as power to pay for a good contentious mSad because God made the gold and silver ,flour can be given if it is your best , so that is false power. Going to heaven is another power of belief wrong ,because that is by invitation, not by any human choice because you said they are going. No different then some one would see your house and invite themself in even if they are a crook, killer, child abuser, thief , and more.
Why would God Invite people who died as one of these in heaven just because they died , would heaven be like the earth now if all people died are there now ?
The point is Religion has done much harm in hands of the wrong ones. Just like a gun can in the wrong hands.
The point of the this reply is to understand as example ,that yes there is fools gold, but there is real gold too! should we dismiss the fact of finding real gold just because you have experience fools gold. .
And people that want what is real can receive it if they seek its wisdom from the heart.
I would be happy to explain why God does not burn any one in a hell fire. Even though many false representatives use it as a power over many people.
I will return to you with the explanation hands tied with grands!
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