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  1. maxoxam41 profile image65
    maxoxam41posted 9 years ago

    Why are American doctors not quarantined since Ebola is air born?

  2. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 9 years ago

    It can be aerosolised, it is not technically an airborne disease.

    Also, what doctors where?

    1. maxoxam41 profile image65
      maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You are telling me that American doctors knowing the risks didn't take maximum precautions to fight the disease and sick, they are back to the US and not QUARANTINED in a deserted area? No they will stay in a big city risking to infect the population.
      Since governments lie, I don't believe a word they say. I don't understand why Africans die but when Americans come back they resuscitate. Either we have a vaccine, either we don't and, if we have it why African countries don't dispose of it? Is it because we are waging wars against their national wealth. It is interesting to see that the African countries that developed ebola are rich and secondly are currently resisting any imperialist forces intents and attempts to pilfer their wealth!
      What also bothers me is that the CDC has it. It is a governmental agency and so are the Pentagon, the CIA, NSA... And, we all know their reputation.

      1. psycheskinner profile image81
        psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I am telling you they did take precautions, but the precautions failed.  And so they came home and were saved by supportive treatment. And they reason they could do that is because the US helps its citizens due to citizenship representing a special and higher obligation.

        We know where Ebola comes from, and what behaviors cause it.  Thus it is not at all suspicious that it continues to arise in nations where people eat infected wild animals ("bush meat") and practice at home funeral services.  Saying that is odd is like demanding to know why more frostbite happens in Alaska than Hawaii.

        1. maxoxam41 profile image65
          maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          "precautions failed", do you really want me to believe this lame excuse?
          You swallow perfectly what the media shoves in your throat but in spite of our local campaigns, Africans eat monkeys or whatever other lie. Yes, I forgot after all, they are only indigenous.
          What about the fact that we have the virus in the CDC? That our mercenaries are still destabilizing those countries? No correlation to be drawn in your explanation?

          1. psycheskinner profile image81
            psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Lame excuse?  the last doctor didn't even work on an Ebola ward, he was there to deliver vaccinations and must have just caught it on the street.  It is contagious, you know.  It seem to me perfectly logical to believe people caught a contagious disease by the usual methods.

            And yes people in those regions eat a wide range of indigenous wildlife which harbor the disease.  It is currently the most plausible initial cause of a new outbreak, although human to human transmission is what creates the pandemic. I don;t get that from the media, I get it from the peer-reviewed literature. Which I have some reason to trust because I am an integral part of it.

            1. maxoxam41 profile image65
              maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Are you a specialist in epidemiology? If no, how can you assert what you don't know. It bothers me when governments take such problems with a light heart. As an ordinary being the only name of Ebola frightens me and specialists come and go to Africa recklessly.
              Who does finance your peers?

  3. Sed-me profile image81
    Sed-meposted 9 years ago

    So the Brits have sent military help to Sierra Leone. More than 2000 ppl have died already and they've been saying the main thing needed is personnel so this will be a huge blessing to W. Africa.

    1. maxoxam41 profile image65
      maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The Brits in Sierra Leone, the French in Mali, Central Africa... only there to help... What would Africa be without them? Maybe prosper. They don't send help but fuel enmity. Everywhere imperialist hands are hovering over a land, it is chaos.

      1. Sed-me profile image81
        Sed-meposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Don't be nutsy. We are allowed to move about the cabin.
        Their efforts will save lives... maybe your own.
        It is an epidemic.

  4. maxoxam41 profile image65
    maxoxam41posted 9 years ago

    Why would I be the nutsy and not you? In what way my rationalization of facts doesn't make sense? After all the UN agenda 21 aims at the earth depopulation and consequently your death, our deaths.
    To be honest, I am fed up of people minimizing our elite's will to eradicate us from their planet, we, "useless eaters". America is in perpetual state of denial. American cities are dying, unemployment is at 23%, inflation at 7, 8%, national debt at $70 trillion, the derivative bubble at $1.5 quadrillion... what other dire fact do you need to acknowledge the gravity of our situation?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      1. African countries are using germ warfare to protect their wealth.
      2. More than 2000 people have died in W. Africa.
      3. The brits have sent in military personnel.
      4. Imperialists in Africa are victims of germ warfare.
      5. American doctors are coming back to the United States with Ebola
      6. There is no cure or vaccine for Ebola at present.
      7. UN Agenda 21 aims at the earth depopulation.
      8. American cities are dying.
      9. Unemployment is at 23%.
      10. Inflation is at 7, 8%.
      11. National debt is at $70 trillion.
      12. The derivative bubble is at $1.5 quadrillion.
      13. The situation is dire.

      What do you suggest we do, Maxoxmam41?

      1. maxoxam41 profile image65
        maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I have noticed that you have problems ingesting information since you need to compartmentalize it, is it a disorder or a joke?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
          Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Yes,  the disorder is called the need to compartmentalize in order to understand how another person thinks.

          It seems your solution is to "find a way to dislodge the government from its pedestal legally obviously with the help of the constitution."

          well, Good!

          1. maxoxam41 profile image65
            maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Most of the people understands a sentence without having the urge to decorticate it. When someone speaks to you, do you have a pad and proceed the same way? How behind are you when they finish their sentence?
            And what is your solution? To be enslaved by the same puppets?

    2. MJPackaging profile image59
      MJPackagingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Here are two articles I found confirming and documenting the fact that the U.S. has a patent on the Ebola virus. Maybe someone from this thread can explain why the government would want to patent a virus. I'm aware of Agenda 21 and depopulation, but wanted some clarity from other sources since I'm still in shock by the research that I've found. Some of my research suggests that elites such as George Soros and Bill Gates have been researching to make Ebola an airborne virus in order to decrease the "useless eaters". (human populations making less than $100,000/yr) Not sure what to believe anymore, but my leanings are still with the research.

      http://topinfopost.com/2014/08/05/why-d … a-man-made


      1. Quilligrapher profile image74
        Quilligrapherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        You will find the following remarks by Christopher VanLang at http://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-US-go … ns-thereof

        “In this case, the patent is for…

        ‘Compositions are provided that are operable as immunogens to elicit and immune response or protection from EboBun challenge in a subject such as a primate. Inventive methods are directed to detection and treatment of EboBun infection.’

        “In other words, they are patenting compositions of matter that may be useful for the generation of an immune response. In other words, they are hoping to patent a vaccine or the antibodies generated against the virus.

        “Sounds pretty useful to me. This is a necessary step to protect the following commercialization or tech-transfer of vaccine development if isolated Ebola viruses turn out to be a potent vaccine candidate. Without this step, the initial trials with these compounds could be in flux if there were no patents on the composition of matter which would delay the scale-up of the vaccine.”


      2. maxoxam41 profile image65
        maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for your articles. Finally I have answers to my questions now it makes more sense why Americans infected with virus can go inside the land, Atlanta for instance, without the required quarantine. To host the virus and create a new strain. Our logic is to use it as a bioweapon.
        Since when do we do good deeds? We are building weapons, bullets (APLPs = a miniature explosive round) to destroy the people and the planet and nothing is done to counter it. Israel has in his laboratories bioweapons that will target ethnicities, isn't it the same logic?
        And since when profits don't make our world go round? It is the second logical factor of our behavior. Patent it, spread it and draw profitability from the virus is VERY plausible. It does make sense.

        1. psycheskinner profile image81
          psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          All American sufferers of Ebola allowed into the US were transported in isolation suits and negative pressure tents and quarantined in hospitals until cured.

          So... I guess I don't know what you are talking about.

          At all.

          1. MJPackaging profile image59
            MJPackagingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Not to speak for the man, but I believe he was referencing the following links below in conjunction with the belief that there are global elites who are seeking to profit from "depopulation" and turning Ebola into an air born bio-weapon. Many would throw this haphazardly into the "conspiracy theory" category and write the whole story off as some crazy plot thought up by a man who lives in the basement at his mother's house; however, more and more "conspiracy theories" are actually coming to light as truth, the deeper one looks outside the realm of mainstream media, and actually looks at connections for themselves.

            http://topinfopost.com/2014/08/05/why-d … a-man-made


            1. psycheskinner profile image81
              psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              And his evidence of this is something that ever happened?

              I mean... it was well documented, I remember looking at pictures of the tented area in the plane before it left and and interview from the female victim about being transported in a sealed suit. So, clearly quarantine was used.  Quarantine is the sealing of an area around the victim that prevents transmission.  It does not mean leaving them where they are.  A quarantine zone can be moved. And all of these cases were closely monitored and successful and in achieving no transmission from the point of collection on.

              So if that was an evil plan to spread Ebola to the US is was a very stupid and ineffective one given that all you would need to do is collect some infected fluids and spray them around in a heavily used public area.

              1. maxoxam41 profile image65
                maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Can you differentiate from false to true? Were you on the premises or are you like the majority fed what they want us to believe that what they say is RELIGIOUSLY true?

                1. psycheskinner profile image81
                  psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  You didn't bother to substantiate your claims which are a lot more many and varied than mine.  If you do that I bother with a fully cited rebuttal.

                  You just jumped up and said there was no quarantine and huge conspiracy to commit genocide.

                  To which I am saying: yeah, right.

                  I mean, the widespread outbreak of Ebola in the US clearly proves me wrong.  By which I mean not a single substantiated domestically contracted case. : /

                  If I was evil I could cause an American Ebola outbreak for about $500 (shipping, bribes, dry ice, and a spray bottle), so your alleged bad guys really do suck.  That means even if they did exist I would not give a damn about them.

                  1. maxoxam41 profile image65
                    maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    I was questioning the irresponsibility of their behavior. But you didn't criticize it. You accept and that's it. Show me the proof that our government took all precautions! If to support the governmental claim, you are using mainstream media, you may as well tell me that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq with an assertive tone.
                    My problem is that your conclusion doesn't fit your explanation whereas mine led to what I alleged at the beginning of my thread. The envoy of military forces has no logic, only people like you will find a link where it doesn't exist. However If you follow my logic it leads to an agenda.
                    For you to believe that evil doesn't exist in the hemicycle of our government, you must be totally blind. Why don't you check our history books and come back to me.

              2. MJPackaging profile image59
                MJPackagingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                America should not be dealing with this.....Why is Obama sending 3,000 military personnel to Africa to fight an EPIDEMIC? These combat personnel are NOT trained to take on a level 5 deadly germ! Ebola symptoms are not always noticeable and take time to show up. What happens when an American soldier, un-experienced in how to deal with this, comes back infected?.....

                http://news.yahoo.com/obama-announce-ma … VJQzFfMQ--

                This is another example of a negligent government and a negligent public not being informed of what is happening. This issue needs to be resolved by the CDC and not the military. America should not be the only country to deal with this, especially in our current financial situation.

                1. maxoxam41 profile image65
                  maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Or like any American moves the envoy of troops suggest what I was dreading at the beginning, an excuse to invade the land. In Iraq, it's the muslims or the inability of the Iraqis to bring democracy, in West Africa, it's Ebola and meanwhile we invade countries with the complicity of our puppets, destabilize further what was already fragile. What if, better, it was another false flag operation? It is our routine after all? Under the guise of a mortal epidemy which naïve population won't believe it? After all, if Bush succeeded in 2001, why not Obama in 2014?
                  And you are right, where is the connection between Ebola, a virulent virus and the deployment of troops? None. However, to keep the resistance in check would make sense.
                  You are right. Why is it that we are ALWAYS involved? Especially when economical interests are at stake.
                  We implant the disease, governments call us, we find a "solution"= send troops and seize the country.
                  And by the way, since when does our government care about our soldiers? Plenty of examples, from contaminated water in military bases to nuclear testing...

                  1. MJPackaging profile image59
                    MJPackagingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    maxoxam41, You typed the words that I was hesitant yet inevitably thinking. It's still hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that our government is doing this all on purpose, but without sugar coating it, this is the truth. As optimistic as I try to be, America has to wake up to the fact that our government has been hijacked by corporations and elites that wish to keep us as SLAVES to a financial system on the rocks, and a military industrial complex set on controlling every last drop of oil in order to preserve what's left of the petro dollar. If even one soldier comes back infected from this outbreak in Africa, the public backlash is going to be astronomical for this administration. As much as I think Alex Jones and David Icke are con-men, their outlook on current events and what the elites are trying to establish is dead on.

          2. maxoxam41 profile image65
            maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            How many days did it take you to find the info (if it is true)? But before you were defending them without any proof. Anyone can host a deadly virus and return home to our risks. Do you have a picture or a video of them from their departure from Africa to their arrival on American land?

  5. wrenchBiscuit profile image68
    wrenchBiscuitposted 9 years ago

    The "New World Order" has been in the making for over 500 years. The biological weapon of Smallpox was effectively used by the ruthless colonialists to "ethnically cleanse" an entire continent. Many apologists will say it was not premeditated, or that it was an "act of God". But it was simply an  opportunity that the European nobility seized and exploited to expedite a program of genocide.

    maxoxam41 has raised some important questions , and the historical record has proven that the greedy imperialist will stop at nothing to achieve world domination. I would not be surprised at all, to find out that the imperialists were behind the Ebola epidemic in Africa.

    1. maxoxam41 profile image65
      maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly. The first pages of American history (we want it or not) speak of the eradication of the Native Indians. Smallpox was used. Thanks for alluding to the holocaust. Eugenics was applied on the poorest etc ... Is it part of the American history, background, past or not? Then if we accept our government's responsibility in such actions how is it so different from today?
      After all, the result is that we expropriated and parked them like animals (like the Palestinians now). Why do we always have to glorify ourselves whereas our history shows vile behaviours. Aren't we expropriating Iraqis, Libyans...? A pattern again.
      The world knows our history. They know that the dregs of European societies populated the Indian land!

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
        Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        so now what?

        1. maxoxam41 profile image65
          maxoxam41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Fight it.
          Since Obama decides to wage wars instead of congress it is a violation of the first article section 8 of the constitution. If a Joe Blow like me noticed it why not constitutional law specialists?

  6. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

    Fight IT!   What is * IT *… (Yes, we are all idiots. except for wB.)
    Would you like to see P. B. H. O. impeached?

  7. maxoxam41 profile image65
    maxoxam41posted 9 years ago

    In Globalresearch.ca, I found ebola related articles that said and I quote : "Even more frightening, the “ownership” over Ebola extends to Ebola circulating in the bodies of Ebola victims. When Dr. Kent Brantly was relocated from Africa to the CDC’s care in Atlanta, that entire scene was carried out under the quasi-legal justification that the U.S. government “owned” the Ebola circulating in Dr. Brantly’s blood. Thus, one of the very first things that took place was the acquisition of his blood samples for archiving and R&D by the CDC and the U.S. Department of Defense.
    (Only the gullible masses think that was about saving the life of a doctor. The real mission was to acquire the Ebola strain circulating in his body and use it for weaponization research, vaccine research and other R&D purposes.) ". It clearly shows the extent of our involvement in this tragedy.


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