"Without order nothing exists; without chaos nothing evolves..." Vinnie Paz

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   Mr. Happyposted 14 years ago

   "Without order nothing exists; without chaos nothing evolves..." Vinnie Paz
   
   I am just curious what people think about this quote? True, not true, somewhat true? Explain.

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      Heretikposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      11years too late, but...
      
      a.) IIllBill spits these bars
      b.) Its a rehash of an Oscar Wilde quote;
      “Without order nothing can exist-without chaos nothing can evolve. Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.”

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         Mr. Happyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the correction. Those are indeed Ill Bill's bars and I gave the credit to Vinnie. And I did not realize that was an Oscar Wilde quote. Posting the quote does bring a lot more meaning. Cheers!

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   NathanielZhuposted 14 years ago

   It depends on the perspective
   
   From a Physics perspective, it's not true.
   Existence does not require order.
   On the quantum scale, there is no such thing as order. Particles constantly float in and out of existence, and nothing is definite.
   
   From an evolutionary biologist's point of view, it isn't true as well.
   Evolution is a very ordered process. Only organisms that are selected by natural selection survive to pass on its genes. That means, the order is that organisms can only evolve to better fit their enviornment

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   Mr. Happyposted 14 years ago

   Thanks for the answer Mr. Zhu ... very interesting perspective.  The quote is said from a sociological point of view. Any interpretation of this quote is good though - there is no wrong answer for this question. Unless you answer with: "Yes, Donald Duck is great."

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   DonDWestposted 14 years ago

   Chaos theory, I'll step aside and leave this for another day when I have a lot of free time to write a monster Hub.

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   Nelson Lozadaposted 11 years ago

   Without order there is no predictability. No predictability makes planning difficult. As we know some beliefs are based on a divine creator who designed everything through order and organization. Thus life and existence became possible.
   
   Without chaos we would not survive. Chaos is the factor that keeps us adapting and therefore having the ability to survive, overcome difficulties and jump to a new curve just by obligating us to have no option but to make due with what we have until we can find a better solution
   
   
   
   
   What I have noticed is that there is a certain duality with the quote.
   
   "Without order nothing exists". - Divine creation
   "Without chaos nothing evolves". - Big Bang Theory
   
   But then again that is my humble opinion and I still alot to learn on many subjects. At least I gave it a shot.

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