Why is Greek and Roman, Religion called mythology but Christian Mythology is called religion?
Since I've extensively researched the history of Christianity and other religons. I'd have to agree with you
Well said, CMHypno. You look so young, yet you know this world too well!! I am 58 and I just learned that a few years ago. I don't know if it's good for you but I would rather live in fairyland, LOL.
The perfect answer....I couldn't agree more
Christianity only won because they made other religions look bad and they basically slaughtered anyone who did not believe the same as they did. Christians are the Dialeks of Doctor Who, exterminating anyone who is different from them.
I'm sorry you consider the Christian religion as mythology. But I do so love the myths of past cultures. They are interesting to study!
People being raised from the dead, supernaturals being (angels) God (Gods) in other religions are said to be mythological. are you saying you believe they are actually real in Christian stories?
I don't believe most of the Bible. I believe in the stories from the people who have died for two minutes then come back with stories of heaven and hell.
so why are you sorry I view the Christian stories as mythology?
Because they are a piece of history and not classified as mythology.
So if that is the case - why are the Greek religions considered mythology - they are historically relevant too.
The Greeks and Romans fell. The Pope became the higher power. He even commanded his knights to attack the east when there was peace because he felt threatened by their religion and felt he would lose power if they came to close.
The original question was why is Christian mythology a religion, but Greek/Roman religion considered mythology - just because they fell doesn't make them less of a religion. What happens when/if Christianity falls - myth then?? (respectfully asked)
Yes. When there is lack of evidence or the theory is outdated, it turns into a myth.
Iburmaster - thanks for your answer to that!. I do like your original answer - I agree re interesting, though I find religions interesting as well
interesting, please explain the differences between theories and theorems and what difference it makes to whether a religion is said to be mythological or a religion, whose stories are presumed to be real
A religious theory is a mythology because it does not have an absolute truth of existence whereas a religious theorem is a religion bacause there is proof and some historical and realistic evidence to support this proof e.g. for christianity which is
I tried hard to think of one but I just can't come up with someone writing a purported truthful first hand account of any Roman or Greek God. There were great writers of the times and dynasties and books like Homer's are wonderful along with Tiberius' writing, certainly The Republic. But I just can't remember and account of someone claiming to sleep with the God Mars.
Perhaps there was a guy named Hercules, but probably not, because I have never read a quote of his or a first hand account of the stables.
Can Hearsay change the value and validity of what we are told? Most definitely is the answer. Just like a husband and wife returning from a cruise and telling different stories of what they saw -- Mathew, John and Mark tell perfect first hand accounts from their perspective. Just enough difference to make them credible. Whereas I find no such remarkable "proof" of this in what we call mythology.
However with that said: I really do not take any offense in the notion of Christian Mythology. For instance, the story of the Prodigal Son or the Servants of the Vinedresser. We like to call them parables and metaphors but really they are kind of myths to get a point across.
Do you ever wonder where the term "down to earth" really started. Probably Zeus but perfected by Christ.
Many a man has been convicted both rightly and wrongly by proof of an "eye witness" and more often by two or more. Vagaries are common as we all have different priorities of perspective. But there is no New Testament of the Roman and Greek Gods. They apparently never really blessed us by coming around and being "a slob like one us" as the singer sings.
Now those are some differences. And my search for Roman and Greek New Testaments is not exhaustive, so you could steer me straight on that. "Testament" is a cool word. Testimony, makes a big difference in life and thought and understanding.
Weasy what is your testimony on this?
Let's see...because something is called a "testament" that means it's true?
Very cute Weasey --- If something IS a Testament, that means someone says it is true. A word game on it is silly.
it's not a word game it's a question
You seem to be arguing that because there are Christian testaments but you can't find Roman or Greek testaments that make them mythological is that what you're saying?
Yes that is true and an obvious glaring reality. No first hand accounts of Roman or Greek Gods. Even during a time of great writers and philosophers. Even during "golden ages" there are no testaments. Ain't no one swearing the truth to Zeus.
In ancient times in Greece people did swear by Zeus, as in "I swear by Zeus" I will get it done! Same as I swear by God I will get it
done! You say God they say Zeus.
Weasey that is not at all the same. A pledge of allegiance is not a testament to a witness. You are smart, you know the difference. Weasey the foundation of Christianity is foundationally different than Roman and Greek myths. Name one eye witness.
Eric you said "Ain't no one swearing the truth to Zeus". When I tell you that people did You say "A pledge of allegiance is not a testament to a witness." You can't have it both ways. Believers were swearing by what they believed in, as you do
I think you see the difference. Swearing that you had dinner with someone is different than swearing an allegiance to a belief that someone exists. Do you have testimony from someone that they met Zeus? We do with Christ.
Eric You take it on faith that there were eyewitnesses. There is no historical proof that those who wrote the gospels were eyewitnesses
anyone is free to call another a liar. Anyone is also free and justified to believe in the truth of the testimony of another. I acknowledge your position that the New Testament is a book filled with liars upon liars. But it does answer your question
for me it's not about calling anyone a liar. It's about getting at the historical truth/facts. But I think you said on one of my hubs you;re in love with love not facts/truth. I look for truth and facts that's why we differ
Well, I guess the only answer I have is that Christianity is a religion based on real or live people - people who really did live back in 33 AD. Greek and Roman mythology is based on fictional gods. They did not really live. Maybe the people who believed in them thought they were real, but in historical terms they were never real people. Christianity, whether you believe it to be a religion or not, is based on people who really did live. Jesus Christ was a real person and lived here on earth, whether you happen to believe he is the son of God or not. Even the Jewish religion recognizes him as a person, they just don't believe he is the Messiah.
The Christian religion is based on Jesus Christ's teachings and since he is a real person who lived, what he taught is considered a religion and not mythology. His teachings are based on a true lifestyle and philosophy of a true living person, where the Greek and Roman Gods never lived or walked the earth.
What historical evidence proves Jesus lived?
If it's the four gospels. They are the only place in the historical record that Jesus of Nazareth exists. There's historical research that show the town of Nazareth didn't exist during that time
Bethlehem did exist then, so did Mt. Sinai from whence came the Sermon on the Mt. There are many historical places in the middle east that existed during Christ's time. Why do you ask these questions and then argue?
Here's the difference. If I my view differs for yours You call it arguing. I call it a discussion
Christianity is a religion based on real people? Sounds to me more like Christianity is a mythology based on real people. No one has ever proven beyond doubt that Jesus was God Incarnate, like what they said of Lord Krishna. Both are mythologies.
None!, The catholic church is nothing more than a multibillion dollar corporation, built on lies and greed, like every other multibillion dollar corp!
Just because the catholic church is a power hungry, money mad, self serving pile of rotten apples doesn't mean Jesus never existed.
This is the definition of theorem from dictionary.com
1. Mathematics . a theoretical proposition, statement, or formula embodying something to be proved from other propositions or formulas.
2. a rule or law, especially one expressed by an equation or formula.
3. Logic. a proposition that can be deduced from the premises or assumptions of a system.
4. an idea, belief, method, or statement generally accepted as true or worthwhile without proof.
None of these definitions say that a theorem is something that’s true or has “absolute truth of existence”. But It may be theoretically true, that’s why it’s called a theorem.
A theorem is a statement that can be logically deduced from a premise whether It’s true or not. You may deduce that what you believe to be true is true, but that doesn’t mean that it’s true. It may make sense to you but that doesn’t mean it’s true.
i will have to say that christianity is a belief, when we add faith and acceptance to it, becomes a religion
otherwise myths are just a way of empowering culture, bringing a sense of belonging and loyalty to those believing in it
Good points Caesarr I agree that "otherwise myths are just a way of empowering culture, bringing a sense of belonging and loyalty to those believing in it" This also applies to Christianity
Given that religion of any sort is basically a set of tenets to live one's life by, and a way to explain the apparently unexplainable (or at least it was at the time), which is much like what myths and legends are as well - there is little difference.
I don't mean offence by this, though I acknowledge that it could be seen that way, but what I mean is that Myths and Legends and religions have many similarities - and to one person another's religion may seem to be more of a mythology based thing, but their own religion may not seem that way. So, their's seems more 'real' than someone elses, and they find it offensive that others may suggest theirs is merely mythology (yet they are just doing the same).
Basically what I'm saying is that no one has the right to write off the religions of another as mythology.
Most don't realize mythology is a great learning tool. Even Jesus used it.
The heart of Jesus teaching based on myths. Today we teach student greats lesson through virtual reality.
Jesus used myths, sometimes known as parables. The Good Shepard, the Good Samaritan, the Prodigal son, the vineyard and many more to explain real concepts that exist in the universe.
The Hindus use mythical pictures to depict the power of God. For examples God is shown with many faces and hands. This illustrates that fact that God can do many things at the same time and sees everything in every direction. Sure it is a myth that God looks like that, however now even an illiterate can understand God's capability through such myths.
"Mythology is what we call someone else's religion." - Joseph Campbell
http://emergent-culture.com/demystifyin … free-pt-1/
Many mythologies focus on explanations of the universe, natural phenomena, or other themes of human existence, often ascribing agency to one or more deities or other supernatural forces. However, some religions have very few of this kind of story of cosmic explanation. For instance, the Buddhist parable of the arrow warns against such speculations as "[Is] the world eternal or not eternal? [Is] the soul different from the body? [Does] the enlightened exist after death or not?", viewing them as irrelevant to the goal of escaping suffering. Also, religion has a morality and myth doesn't.
Mythology is a religion of people that passed away, and Christianity is a religion of live present-day people.
I call both mythology. Used to do it to piss people I didn't like off but eventually kept doing it because technically it is an accurate terminology.
A collection of myths, esp. one belonging to a particular religious or cultural tradition.
A set of stories or beliefs about a particular person, institution, or situation, esp. when exaggerated or fictitious.
I agree, and of course those who takes these fabulous, supernatural tales to be accounts of real people will scream bloody murder at your recitation of the facts.
So why is Christian mythology called religion?
Because it is the current mythology just as roman mythology was called religion in rome's days of power.
It is entirely a matter of who is doing the "calling" none is any more rational or real than another.
They are all fictional beings brewed up by mortal men.
Buddhism, on the other hand, is based on a real flesh & blood man who was simply considered extremely wise but had no godly powers.
It's all mythology.... every single religion. There is only supposed to be one God, yet there are several religions out there that have multiple gods or worship a different god than others.
Many people do not want to believe in a God who demands righteousness and morality, so they invent a God who makes no such requirements. Many people do not want to believe in a God who declares it impossible for people to earn their own way to heaven. So they invent a God who accepts people into heaven if they have completed certain steps, followed certain rules, and/or obeyed certain laws, at least to the best of their ability. Many people do not want a relationship with a God who is sovereign and omnipotent. So they imagine God as being more of a mystical force than a personal and sovereign ruler.
The existence of so many religions is not an argument against God's existence or an argument that truth about God is not clear. Rather, the existence of so many religions is demonstration of humanity's rejection of the one true God. Mankind has replaced Him with gods that are more to their liking.
vveasey, I think it is a matter of choosing to be respectful, which perhaps those that do this were not taught growing up. I think also that the temptation to dismiss other religions is greater if the other religion in question is more ancient than one's own or if the religion is a minority. Tolerance excludes such behavior, but then again tolerance has to be embraced.
This is a great question! The answer, however, is from a perspective of a social science teacher, so please bear with me.
From an instructional perspective, the Classical Era--Greece and Rome--were in BCE (Before Common Era). Their religious beliefs were polytheistic, meaning many. The Greeks celebrated and worship gods that illustrated monotheistic creations. The stories associated with Greek and Roman gods are considered "myths," tales of gigantic proportions.
Once Rome became a Republic, the influence of Christianity took place of mythology and Rome, the Republic marked the era of the Common Era. Once Constantine later conquered Asia Minor (Turkey and parts of Southwest Asia),embraced Christianity and made it the official religion of Rome. That was between 450-500.
Side note: Orthodox Christianity, which is practiced in Eastern Europe, is partly due to Constantinian influence in the region. It was a different belief system within Christianity early as 700, 800 CE, way before the Reformation in the 16th Century.
Before Romans adopted Christianity, their mythology was a religion. The same can be said of the Greeks. One day people might speak of Christianity as mythology too. I think it is the time we live in.
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