The Past And the Future Don't Really Exist. It's Always, Now! The Present! Agre

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   vveaseyposted 8 years ago

   The Past And the Future Don't Really Exist. It's Always, Now! The Present!  Agree Or Disagree?
   
   You Can Visit An Old West Ghost Town, Built In The Past, In The1800s, Now In The Present, Today!
   
   

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   HeadlyvonNogginposted 8 years ago

   I disagree. The past is an easier example to illustrate. The events of the past shaped the present. If the past didn't exist then the present wouldn't exist as it does. The same goes for the future. The present is tomorrow's past, so the present is shaping what the future will soon be. Not to mention a lot of our actions are taken in the interest of that future. So in that way the future exists as well. They both have an impact on the present.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 8 years ago

   If the past didn't exist, archeology wouldn't be a thing.
   I agree that the future is indeterminate until it arrives.

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I see any ",,,ology"  as being a knowledge and understanding.   It's not a "thing."  It does not have a physical dimension or existence.  Same as The Now.  It's infinite. You can't hold it back or contain it.  Just live it.  Awareness.  Period.

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   jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years ago

   I agree.  The Present is all that really exists.  The Past was. It cannot hold the Present back.  The Future cannot wait for the Present.  It must always be out beyond our consciousness.
   
   It's the most profound real-isation any of us can achieve...  it remains true of every moment.  Every thing that has consciousness experiences the Now.
   It seems that we humans have evolved our minds into contemplating the past (enhanced memory) and envisaging the Future (imagination).  Other species may have such ability to some degree, we can never be sure.  But it's a mental agility very prominent in Homo sapiens.
   
   I  AM

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   thomasczechposted 8 years ago

   The past is not a place. The past exists in our memory, books and stuff. But it is not a place we can go to. The future has not yet happened, therefore it does not exist.
   We continually move forward in time, leaving the past and moving ahead into the future. But for us, we are always in the present.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Descartes was very correct. It is not "I thought therefor I will be"

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   ptosisposted 8 years ago

   
   
   Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
   
   "A-theory is the theory that there is a fundamental difference between the past, present and future.
   B-theorists do not think that such temporal passage or A-change is real; nor do they think it is necessary for time. Only temporal relations are needed for time." - https://timeandillusion.org/tag/einstein/
   
   And if want to really twist up you mind into knots:
   "Vedral explains that everybody is having a hard time at the idea of having a photon in two places at the same time. Another competing theory says no - that the third measurement affects the second measurement and that this is not to be thought of as a time travel paradox." - http://hub.me/a5Y5f
   
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   "... time is an illusion caused by the passage of history and history is an illusion caused by the passage of time. So to call it a particle and saying it is at two places at the same time is what is so confusing. No wonder it takes years to understand a single photon is at two places at the same time." http://hub.me/a5Zof

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Re. that droopy clock - Just a second while I check my minute hand befour I go...

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   Ericdierkerposted 8 years ago

   I like all the stuff about mindfulness, being in the now and quantum theory regarding time and our illusions. But prayer, birthdays, dreams and ancestor worship make it clear to me that there are no absolutes in the contemplation of time. I had a dream the other night about something that happened in the past. In my dream I basically rewrote what happened, or did I correct my perception of the past? Planning for a birthday is cool. We recollect the past, currently plan for the future and live now in the anticipation of the occasion. When I pray I give thanks for the past, pray for the future and am in prayer in the present. In ancestor worship we give homage to a persons life in the past, wish them well in the present and ask for their blessing in the future.
   It is cool that my past experience will help to form how I act in the future. I cannot truly be in the now, because a nano second just pasted and I am immediately in the future without conscious knowledge that the past nano second has gone by or that the present nano second was in the future.
   I wonder how come when I am just thinking of me, I still envision myself as I was 30 years ago.
   Anger is interesting. Something happens that is now in the past, we are currently angry over it and the same anger will exist in the near future. Does anger know time?
   Building a house that we currently live in and will tomorrow. Certainly the past methods of building us will effect the current and the future. Right no I feel sorrow for an event in the past. Does sorrow know time? What happens when you walk through the Grand Canyon and touch a 2 billion year old rock formation? If you chip away at the rock do you change what happened 2 billion years ago.
   What of the idea the God is omnipresent?
   So I disagree the past, the present (now) and the future are all one.

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      vveaseyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting points. You say you disagree, but I'm not clear on what you disagree with.You say they are all one. Are they all one now?

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, I eent back and relooked at your question. I redid the past and came up with a new answer in the present. Yes I agree.

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