If you knew the lives of your ancestors at least three generations ago; and you

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   threekeysposted 7 years ago

   If you knew the lives of your ancestors at least three generations ago; and you saw a pattern being
   
   repeated down the line. Is it fate? Karma? Or do you think the buck can stop with you?
   
   

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   gmwilliamsposted 7 years ago

   
   
   It is a generational pathology.  Many families adopt a generational pathology whether it is negative thinking, consciousness & its dysfunctional correlations.   Smart, intelligent children observe such dysfunctions & pathologies & disavow the familial negativity.   They even disassociate from their families of origin because of the negativity.   They find other people who imbue the positive thoughts, consciousness, & outlook they have.
   
   Many families continue the generational dysfunction & negativity of their ancestors because it is easier & comfortable.  There are some who are quite afraid to venture out of their familial malaise because they fear being alone.  In their "thoughts" a dysfunctional, even pathological family is better than no family at all.  Then others continue their families pathological dysfunction because they don't know & won't learn any better.  Their families are their psychological, even psychic cocoon & they want to remain in their toxic womb.   Then there are a FEW who are in DENIAL regarding the negative, dysfunctional, & pathological state of their families.   The latter ARE COGNIZANT of what is wrong w/their families; however, they wish to.....IGNORE such.  They may even go so far to rationalize their pathologically dysfunctional family.

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   Ashish Dadgaaposted 7 years ago

   Dear ThreeKeys,
   
   I would say it's fate.
   
   Regards,
   Ashish

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   tsmogposted 7 years ago

   Another question ThreeKeys that offers much thought. Can the buck stop here? The simple answer is not to have children. That alludes to ‘yes’ it is fate since most do not pick their parents or the environment. Personally, I don’t think Karma is generational, even though there is discussion if there is family Karma with inherited DNA.
   
   TMI . . . where are patterns found? Which ones can we change? Some say we can change this one or that one and some say no. It is open to pondering. I think that is something some to many parents do before deciding to have a family or create a new generation.
   
   Physiological – diabetes, cancer, and etc. This is the only one I think cannot be changed for future generations.
   
   Sociological – family, cultures, and societies. Here is where tradition, religion, and political values may be a pattern.
   
   Environmental – immediate surroundings, adaption, and values.
   
   Psychological – behavior, learning, and values. Here we discover the above have an impact.
   
   Spiritual – What can I say? That runs the gamut from predestination to free will to divine intervention.

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   dashingscorpioposted 7 years ago

   
   
   I believe: Life is a (personal) journey.
   Our lives are for the most part the end result of the decisions and choices (we have made) along the way.
   For example sometimes you hear about a teenage mother whose mother was a teenage mother as well as her grandmother. Essentially that's three generations!
   Her daughter however could (choose) not to have unprotected sex or not to give birth to a child until she has completed her education, established a career, and has gotten married.

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   Ericdierkerposted 7 years ago

   I like the notion about generations that goes like this: His father's father was a trapper, but alas they trap no more. His father was a buggy whip maker but alas they no long make buggy whips. He was a fireman on a train but alas they do not have them anymore. His son delivered milk each morning but they no longer do that. But alas in 2016 his grandson was a doctor who made house calls.
   Times change so quickly through generations that the only thing that is for sure is that if a family sticks to a way of life that becomes obsolete they do not thrive.
   The family structure is not obsolete. I heard that a group of folks who could not get married fought very hard to have a right to marry. And yet something like a full half of inner city children of color grow up without a dad. And yet only about 250 years ago there was no danged thing as a license to marry at all. So my daughter who lives with her boyfriend without a marriage certificate is more like her great great grandparents than me who has one.
   This is a great question this time of year. Family Holiday Traditions. Ornaments on a tree that my grandma passed to my mom who passed them to me who passed them to my son. Really!? Traditions made of things are actually quite strange.
   Physical and mental abuse being passed from generation to generation is not a real phenom. Are we really going to buy into that new age victim status garbage that my dad beat me so I beat my son? This is one of my favs, "obesity runs in our family".
   Hey by today's standards my mom beat me and physically and emotionally abused me. But guess what, her mom and dad did not lay a hand or harsh word upon her. If you are my age, chances are good that your mother and father drank and smoked during conception of you, during pregnancy of you and around your crib. Sorry guys I have no birth defects -- my craziness is self imposed so I can be creative.
   Here is a fun one, my mom and dad obtained post graduate degrees. I am the only of 6 children to do so, and I am adopted.
   I am conservative, my mom and children are liberal.
   Now I reckon a jackass of a parent could really drill into their child to do as I do not as you learn.
   Perhaps the gift of heritage is more subtle. "I do not use my brain so you must not also". I just looked up and tried to think of a great person whose parent was more great. You kind of think of the Roosevelts and Bush family but no. Just kidding here but JC?
   Heritage is an excuse.

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