When will the people realize that the media has lied to them?

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   jackclee lmposted 5 years ago

   The media has been biased and dishonest and source of many fake news... yet most average people does not know this or choose to ignore the facts. They just assume all that is being reported is right and should be taken at face value. But then, how do you explain the fact that the media today has one of the lowest job approvals... the readership of newspapers and magazine are way down... People are tuning out. The old adage is true. Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice shame on me.
   When will the people wake up?

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      When they stop watching Fox News! Duh!   

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         jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I was talking about your side? Fox news is more balanced that the main street media put together.
         Don’t take my word for it. Go and do so e research yourself...

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I don't take your word for it, Jack. I've watched their entertainment channel before....

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            IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            

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            promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Fox News is trusted by Republicans who watch Fox News.

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         ginosblogposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         PEOPLE AS YOURSELF THAT WON'T RESEARCH FOR THEMSELVES ARE THE REASON AMERICA IS SO STUCK IN A HUGE RUT ( DON'T TAKE THIS OFFENSIVELY, JUST TAKE IT AS THE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE THAT EAT UP PROPAGANDA AND DO SOME RESEARCH AN NOT THE WORD OF THE PHONY NEWS CHANNELS THAT ARE LOSING THE A** ) . TAKE A LOOK AND LISTEN TO LIONEL NATION ON YOUTUBE AND THINK A LITTLE FOR YOURSELF NOT WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD.
         AS FAR AS FOX IS CONCERNED IT IF THEY WOULD GET RID OF SHEPARD SMITH IT WOULD HELP THEIR CAUSE  TAKE A LOOK AT THIS:  http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/january- … ars/356285
         
         THEY JUST HAD A SCHOOL SHOOTING IN PARKLAND AND WITHIN TWO HOURS THE GENIUS KIDS WERE DOING WHAT? YELLING GUN CONTROL AND NOT CONDEMING THE SHERIFF DEPT. AND FBI THAT COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS CATASTROPHIC EVENT FROM HAPPENING, BUT THEY ARE NOT MENTIONING DRUNK DRIVERS, DRUGS, CARTELS, OR ANYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? WHY, IF THE 2ND AMENDMENT FALLS THE 1ST ONE WILL GO DOWN EVEN FASTER. WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS AND FOX IS THE BEST WE RIGHT NOW SO YOU BETTER PICK THE TUCKERS, AND HANNITY'S AND THE LIKE AND PAY ATTENTION. THEIR ARE A NUMBER OF PLACES TO GET THE REAL NEWS BUT WE ARE FIGHTING ONE CONSTITUTION IN WASHINGTON AND OUR OWN AND IT'S A FIGHT TO THE FINISH. STAND WITH US OT AGAINST US, YOUR CHOICE MY FRIEND.!

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            jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Your caps is annoying. No need to shout...
            Fox news is not the problem. It is a reaction to the bias of the main stream media that you worship...
            The fake news that are representative of what is being reported is the problem. The people just don't trust the messenger any more...whose fault is that? Be honest... if you can.

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Fox News INVENTED the problem.
               
               Media research shows that trust in media by Republicans took a steep decline after Fox News arrived in the 1990s and began telling all of its viewers that everyone lies except for Fox News.
               
               If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe the Fox News military analyst who just quit.
               
               http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain … story.html

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                  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Your article disprove your own claim. This analyst was proud to work at fox until this past year when Trump got elected. If you believe him, you would also have to believe Fox was doing well prior to Trump? No?

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                     promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Not at all. You need to read the entire article.
                     
                     "Peters said he believed Fox had "degenerated from providing a legitimate and [b[]much-needed outlet for conservative voices[/b] to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration."
                     
                     That means Fox is not and never has been a news network. It's a Republican network for people who want to hear a Republican spin on the news.

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                        jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        How about this -
                        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03 … ators.html
                        
                        Is this all made up by Fox...
                        Or is this the real collusion that Mueller should be investigating...
                        Remember, if it is allowed to happen under one administration, what’s to prevent it in the future?

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                           promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Your link has nothing to do with my post.
                           
                           That said, of course there was coordination among agencies in the investigation of Trump's campaign! And there still is!

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                        jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        One more thing, the reason Fox came into being is because of the monoply of the main stream media on the Democratic side...
                        Is that OK with you? Be honest for a change.
                        If so, so be it.
                        There are partisanship on both sides.
                        If you are claiming everything was fine until Fox came along, then you lost me.
                        You are then just a partisan hack that is not to be taken seriously.

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                           promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Fox News came into being because its founder, Roger Ailes, was a media consultant to 3 Republican presidents. He spotted an opportunity to make money with propaganda for Republican TV viewers.
                           
                           Thanks for the "partisan hack" insult. Odd that it targets someone who has voted mostly Republican.
                           
                           Even odder coming from someone who wrote a Hub praising Rush Limbaugh. 

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                              jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Why is that out of line?  You may vote republican but you are one of the RINO... if you think the main stream media is fair and balanced.  I am an independent and conservative just like Rush
                              Linbaugh and Mark Levin. We don’t give our affiliations to any political parties. My voting record is clear. I have voted both Republicsns and democrats in my long history.
                              I am not one that defends the party at all cost unlike some democrats and some in the media.
                              A partisan hack definition is such and if the shoe fits...

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                                 jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 By the way, I place Senator john McCain in that category. He is the ultimate RINO and he singlehandedly defeated the repeal of ACA. He should have resigned in shame.

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                                 promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 Redirect.

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      promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      1. Total media consumption is increasing. For cable news, it's a 36% increase.
      
      2. Consumers have "a lot" or "some" trust in national media 76% of the time. It's 82% for local media.
      
      3. Fox News is much more ideological than CNN or MSNBC, according to Pew research:
      
      - Fox News 60% conservative, 23% moderate and 10% liberal
      - CNN 32% conservative, 30% moderate, 30% liberal
      - MSNBC 32% conservative, 23% moderate, 36% liberal
      
      In other words, CNN attracts a lot more conservative viewers than Fox attracts liberals.
      
      http://www.journalism.org/fact-sheet/cable-news/
      http://www.journalism.org/2016/07/07/tr … -accuracy/
      http://www.people-press.org/2012/09/27/ … audiences/

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         wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         2)  Not too bright, are they?  Or perhaps just gullible.
         
         3) Are you assuming that because some viewers express political views it means the network does as well?  I watch both Fox and NBC and guarantee that I see just as much ideology from NBC as Fox, if not more.  When weeks go by and the lead in story on NBC is a negative appraisal of Donald Trump virtually every day it does NOT give the impression of balanced reporting, or even "reporting" at all.  On the other hand, Fox presents a view, plainly expressed as opinion, near the end of the day.

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            promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            2) No, they just understand media more than Fox News fanatics.
            
            3) No, your personal opinion doesn't match the statistics.

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               wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Apologies: I took your last sentence to mean those percentage figures referred to the people watching, not the network.
               
               Wonder if the pollster was referring to the specific language/wording used or the overall impression one gets from the likes of Lester Holt?

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         Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Interesting that according to this, CNN has a pretty balanced audience with only a very slight bend towards conservatives.

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      Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Congress, (GOP) dominated also have pretty dismal public opinion scores, so what do we make of that?

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         wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         That it is no different than Congress, (DEM) dominated had the same dismal public opinion (as seen by the election of Donald Trump).  And that our "leaders" are failing miserably in their job.

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            Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Understood, my point being in regards to Jack's comment is that there are plenty of instances of low public reception everywhere, and his argument about the media specifically being rated the way it is and his explanation, reasons/cause, does not resonate with me.

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      Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Jack,
      
      Yellow Journalism has been happening for as long at there has been a media.  The Spanish American war in the 1890s was often considered a war started by the media.  Read about  William Randolph Hearst and his sensationalism.  So, I would say that times change, but people don't.  It's nothing that will change now or in the future.  It's funny to me how people who attack Fox don't attack any of the other multitude of news outlets who do nothing but provide Democrat talking points on a daily basis. 
      
      Read about the New York Journal.  If media had the technology back then as they do today, we would have seen the same thing.
      http://www.pbs.org/crucible/frames/_journalism.html

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      ginosblogposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      THE MEDIA IN THE USA IS GUIDED BY THE BLIND AND RUN BY THE DUMB AND THEIR SOURCES DON'T EXISTS!

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         jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, so how are they still in business?
         Any other business would have gone under a long time ago.

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            promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Because media that follows strict standards of journalism have plenty of credibility and readership.

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      Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I just expect most of it to be propaganda. If it turns out to be more enlightening and have some semblance of professional journalism, it's a pleasant surprise.

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         promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         People tend to put all forms of public communication into one basket they call "the media".
         
         You are one of the few non-journalists I've ever read who uses the word journalism. I wish more people would learn the word and understand that it applies to one category of "the media".
         
         Everything else is junk.

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            Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I've been appalled at some of the stories I've seen come out of mainstream media sources. There are no listed sources, citations, or other references. There is no explanation of why the author's words alone should be taken as expertise. Far too much junk. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the return of journalistic integrity!

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Please define mainstream media. Newspapers use sources unless they want to be anonymous, which is standard practice for politicians in DC. Cable and network news don't cite their sources.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  One has to wonder why so many wish to be anonymous?  Because what they're doing is illegal?  Unethical?  Against the wishes of their constituents and thus might cost votes?  It's false information - a lie?  Are they all afraid of the mafia?
                  
                  If a source must be anonymous, I'd have to question whether or not I'd want to report whatever they say.  But that's just me.

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                     Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I'm curious Dan, what news sources do YOU find trustworthy, and why?

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                  Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I classify MSM as owned by the major corporations. That would include Comcast, Disney, News-Corp, Viacom, Time-Warner, and CBS.

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                     Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     ^ Should add Amazon to the list as well.

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   Aime Fposted 5 years ago

   I saw the light and now I get my news exclusively from Alex Jones.

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      promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Right. All those mass murders with assault rifles are fake because he says so.

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         Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I don’t know how you could possibly doubt it with the way he frantically yells it at you.

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   Ansel Pereiraposted 5 years ago

   We live in a time when fake news is trending. Can it get any worse ? I don't think so.

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sure it can get worse. Read Animal Farm or Farenheit 451...

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         ...or 1984.

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