Fox News analyst blasts network as 'propaganda machine'

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   promisemposted 6 years ago

   I believe our country is in a political mess in part because of certain cable "news" channels that pander to people's political biases.
   
   Yes, MSNBC does it. But Fox created the concept.
   
   http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/20/media/f … index.html

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I tend to think you're right - Fox was the first to put money over honesty and turn to near 100% spin on anything remotely political.  But it sure didn't take the others long to catch on and jump on the $$ wagon!

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that MSNBC and CNN have learned bias, point of view or whatever you want to call it is a strategy that makes money for cable news networks.

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "Peters cited the Fox News opinion hosts' relentless attacks on the FBI, Justice Department, intelligence agencies, and other branches of government. He said he believed Fox News was knowingly causing harm to the country in exchange for profit."
      
      This is why many (three-quarters, according to a recent poll) conservatives believe the FBI is full of liberals out to get Trump. It would be laughable if it weren't so scary that so many people willingly swallow such nasty swill.

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Mueller was well-known as a Republican when he was FBI director.
         
         Then suddenly overnight he became a liberal when he was appointed to investigate Trump.

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            ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            NOT TO SAY SOME REPUBLICAN'S DON'T SUCK ALSO! I CAN NAME A HANDFUL IF YOU NEED AND MULLER WAS NOT A GOOD REPUBLICAN WHEN HE RAN THE FBI! THAT'S THE ESTABLISHMENT CALLING HIM GOOD. CAN YOU SAY CLINTON FOUNDATION AND RUSSIA, AND COMEY? IF YOU CAN THEN THINK MUELLER.

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      Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I saw this report, what a revelation!
      
      It just confirms what it is we always knew about FOX, does it not?

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, it does. Shephard Smith on Fox says much of the same about Sean Hannity.

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      dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It is scary that people believe them.  I use to watch Jeanine Pirro on small claims type cases.  She didn't act like the lunatic that she is.  Shepard Smith has principles.  Maybe he will also leave.
      
      I follow some conservative commentators on Twitter that are factual in communication.  Bill Kristol and Tara Setamayer are two of my favorites.

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         You make a good point about the differences among the commentators. I agree that Shepard Smith and Bill Kristol have principles.
         
         Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham are the ones who damage Fox.

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         ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         TRY LIONEL NATION ON YOUTUBE IF YOU WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.

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      Readmikenowposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      CNN?  You base an opinion about pandering to people's political views citing an article from CNN? An organization that used to take pride in being referred to as the "Clinton News Network."  To be kind this is one of the most political biased news organization in existence.  How many fake stories do they have to retract because biased reporting?  Not as many as they should have.  The hypocrisy here is unbelievable at times. 
      
      http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/08/7-tim … s-in-2017/

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Whataboutism. The post is about a Fox News military analyst accusing the network of propaganda.
         
         The CNN article is one of many all over the Internet. The analyst made the attack on Fox. CNN simply reported it.
         
         If it makes you feel any better, here is the same report from the highly conservative Chicago Tribune:
         
         http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain … story.html

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      JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      There really is no comparison between MSNBC and fox. The difference is MSNBC is on the side of truth, justice, patriotism and good while fox channel instigates and condones the evil sitting in our oval office.

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         dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I think the problem with Fox is not "reporting things favorable to" the right.  The problem is the "hell, fire and brimstone" way they condemn people based on made up conspiracies.  These are intelligent people.  All of us learned deductive and inductive reasoning in school.  The Fox commentators through all of that out the window and MAKE UP stuff.

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            ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            CAN YOU OR WOULD YOU NAME THE MADE UP CONSPIRACIES. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THIS.

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               dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Seth Rich being killed because of the DNA emails HE supposedly pass on.  Supposedly his brother was involved.  Fox back off but Hannity didn't.

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                  promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Great example. It's why both the family and the brother separately have filed lawsuits against Fox.

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         promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I'm no fan of Fox, but I must disagree with you about MSNBC. Its viewership is more liberal than moderate or conservative, which indicates a left-leaning bias.

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         ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         CHECK WITH LIONEL NATION ON YOUTUBE AND YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR WAY OF THINKING.

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      ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      AND WHICH NEWS CHANNELS WOULD THAT BEWOULD THAT BE?

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      dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Now Fox and Rush Limbaugh are ticked at Trump!

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      ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      OUR COUNTRY IS IN A MESS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HAD BY THE GOVERNMENT. THEY LIED ABOUT KOREA, THEY LIED ABOUT VIETNAM, THEY LIED ABOUT WMD IN IRAQ, AND IN MORE CASES YOU HAVE LOST SON'S AND DAUGHTER'S AT THE LIARS EXPENSE. THE CIA, FBI AND NSA HAVE BEEN A COVER UP SINCE THEY STARTED. NEITHER WAS APPOINTED BY CONGRESS AND THE 1ST THING RIGHT OFF THE BAT WAS TO LIE TO FOUR WIVES THAT LOST THEIR HUSBAND'S IN A PLANE CRASH, WHEN THE GOV'T ALLOWED THEM TO SAY WE CAN'T ANSWER WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM BECAUSE IT IS CLASSIFIED. THE FBI COULD HAVE, ALONG WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPT. STOPPED THE SHOOTING IN PARKLAND AND WE STILL DO NOT OR HAVE NOT HEARD THE TRUTH ABOUT LAS VEGAS OR THE TWIN TOWERS THOUGH IT IS OUT THERE IN BOLD PRINT AND VIDEO. NO PLANE HIT THE TOWER'S AND FOLKS ARE NOW DYING OF CANCER FOR WHICH BUSH SAID THE AIR WAS SAFE TO BREATHE. AS FAR AS BEING IN LOVE WITH TRUMP, IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN 100% OF THE TIME BUT IT WILL HAPPEN MORE THAN NOT!

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         Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Whoa! What's up with the all caps and Gish gallop? I gave up reading this response after the first line.I guess you were on topic...then again you went all over the place.

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       dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       I'm confused.
       
       1.  MSM is reporting that John Bannon is a founder of Cambridge Analytica.  The Mercers are major contributors.
       
       2.  Fox is reporting on how the Dems used info from Cambridge Analytica.
       
       If it is all true, does it cancell each other out somewhere.  I'm really trying to understand this.

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          promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Interesting point. I think they don't cancel each other out if 1 is true and 2 is not.

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             dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             Promise, there is something reeeally scary going on.

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   Eastwardposted 6 years ago

   All the major news outlets need to be examined very skeptically as they all have their biases. Each tries to manipulate the minds of the American people in their own way. I give credit to the Guardian as it seems to be going to great lengths to provide real journalism at the risk of upsetting governments and large corporations.

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I agree that cable news networks have biases. Fox goes to the right, MSNBC goes to the left and CNN mainly just pounds on Trump.
      
      Newspapers have higher standards like the Guardian, although they have their flaws too.

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         JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         What else would anyone expect a respected patriotic news outlet to do?CNN pounds on Trump because he's a seriously mentally ill traitor who's destroying America. He's undermining our healthcare system, obstructing justice, abusing his power, abused women, degraded our wartime POWs, disrespected gold star families, conspired to undermine democracy, cowers to Vladimir Putin and the list goes on, and now even animals are not safe from his insanity.
         
         Animal cruelty? Why not in the Hitler, I mean Trump era.
         
         http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-usda-wit … d=53745900

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            "What else would anyone expect a respected patriotic news outlet to do?"
            
            Report "The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth".  Then let the jury (the people) decide.

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               JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, of course, and that's exactly what CNN, the BBC, CSPAN and MSNBC do, report the truth and constantly sound the alarm about the mentally ill impostor sitting in the oval office who is systematically destroying the.United States.
               
               Why isn't Mr. Trump protecting the United States and why on God's good Earth is he STILL in our white house??
               
               But don't take my word for it, here's what 4 star general Barry McCaffrey said about a week ago. If this doesn't chill you to the bone I don't know what will
               
               "Reluctantly I have concluded that President Trump is a serious threat to US national security. He is refusing to protect vital US interests from active Russian attacks. It is apparent that he is for some unknown reason under the sway of Mr Putin."
               
               https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor … 434811002/

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                  wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  No, not part of the truth, appropriately spun and twisted to give a false impression.
                  
                  The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is what I said.

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                     JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, I stand by my previous comment despite your misinterpretation. We are in an emergency situation with this white house impostor and the sooner he's indicted the better for the world.
                     
                     I'm not sure what it will;l take for some to realize the evil he represents, but sooner or later it dawns on them as they try to figure out what they did to end up trapped in eternity with Lucifer.
                     
                     So no comment on Mr. Trump's reversal of animal cruelty laws and is it really a surprise at this point? You'll never see that disturbing news on fox fake channel. I mean really, he could care less about human cruelty as he undermines healthcare and abuses women so I'd assume animal cruelty isn't worth a second of worry right? But in reality, only the sickest of the sick perform unconscionable acts like rescinding laws to protect defenseless animals.
                     
                     Experts will tell you when a child is cruel to animals it can be a sign of  future serious problems and even criminal acts including potentially murder.

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                        wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Let me just say that this thread is about media and truth.  Media and bias.  Media and about it's penchant for using their position in the country as a pulpit rather than a source of news and information.
                        
                        It's not about your hatred of Trump or even your ridiculous claims that the President of the United States is mentally ill.

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                           JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Well wilderness, still no response to Trump's animal cruelty policies right? And by the way, the overwhelming populous hates Trump for very good reasons like his undermining of America, degradation of our POWs and women etc etc and it's not only yours truly who can clearly recognize a mentally ill elderly man when he sees one, the experts understand he's a clear and present danger as well.
                           
                           I suspect you'll never see this disturbing Earth shattering report on fox fake channel.
                           
                           "Now, some psychiatrists and other mental-health professionals are shedding long-held norms to argue that Trump’s condition presents risks to the nation and the world. “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” features more than two dozen essays breaking down the president’s perceived traits, which the contributors find consistent with symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder, sociopathy and other maladies. “Collectively with our coauthors, we warn that anyone as mentally unstable as Mr. Trump simply should not be entrusted with the life-and-death powers of the presidency,” Judith Lewis Herman of Harvard Medical School and Bandy X. Lee of the Yale School of Medicine write in the book’s prologue."
                           
                           https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/boo … 51fff53aa2

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               Eastwardposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               That's what I would expect!

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                  dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I think they get into trouble when they have their experts comment.

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         Eastwardposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Certainly. No media source is perfect and we should scrutinize The Guardian along with the rest of the lot.

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         ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         SOMEONE HAS TO MOVE TOWARD THE RIGHT AS FOX DOES SINCE THE REST OF THEM DO NOTHING BUT LEAN TO THE LEFT. EVEN THE NIGHTLY SO-CALLED COMEDIANS ARE NOTHING BUT DEMOCRATIC
         LED PUPPETS, SUCH AS KEMMEL AND THE LIKE. I SURE MISS JOHNNY CARSON, REST HIS SOUL.

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            JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Johnny Carson was a Dem too

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            Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Gino, do you realize commenting in all caps means you are shouting your words? Or do you forget to turn off the Caps Lock on your computer. Either way, it's considered rude to use all caps on the forums. Stop it!

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Careful Gino  you're insulting a liberal , no telling what damage that may do. There are many of the extremely sensitive among us !

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                  Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Speak for yourself, horsie! 

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                  ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  AHORSEBACK, YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. IT'S NOT HOW YOU POST, IT'S WHAT'S BEHIND THE POST MY FRIEND.

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               ginosblogposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               NO I DID NOT REALIZE THAT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS USING CAPS WOULD GET THE FULL ATTENTION OF SOME LIBERAL AND GET BLASTED FOR DOING SO. YES I UNDERSTAND WHAT CAPS ARE BUT IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT I LIKE USING CAPS IN CASE SOMEONE IS READING MY POST AND MISPLACED THEIR GLASSES AND I DON'T GIVE A SH*T ABOUT BEING PC. THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THING THAN BEING PC! BUT THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION MY FRIEND.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  All caps is also bad on the eyes, but suit yourself, dude. 

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                     dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     I've reported this person.  We all have verifying views  but manage to respect each other and crack a couple of jokes every now and then.  If the person continues to blast, I'll bow out.
                     
                     I had a total knee replacement Tuesday.  The medication is making me dizzy and nauseous. 
                     
                     Happy Easter! Happy egg hunting!  Enjoy your weekend.
                     
                     Diane

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   LongTimeMotherposted 6 years ago

   All caps is annoying and indicates laziness to me so I don’t bother reading whatever that person is writing. I just skip to the next post.
   
   Wilderness, I don’t know how you could expect any media outlet to report ‘the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.’  Journalists aren’t psychic and can’t read people’s minds. If they are honestly quoting someone, that’s good enough for me. I don’t expect the journo to know if the person they’re quoting is lying or not.
   
   For instance,  Cardinal George Pell is back in Australia from the Vatican facing charges related to child sex abuse. Any media outlet reporting the story can tell ‘the truth’ about what both sides are claiming ... but obviously either Cardinal Pell or his alleged victims are lying.
   
   So in truthfully reporting the case, there’s going to be things said that are not ‘the whole truth’ because at least one individual will eventually be judged as having lied. That’s just one of millions of examples where I can see your expectations are way too high. Easy to say it, but not so easy to deliver it.

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I agree that a journalist often cannot know for sure whether a source is lying.  But they CAN make an honest effort to find out - they can verify the story with a second source, they can find evidence supporting it, etc., and they aren't doing so.  If the story is sensational, if it is along their political lines...it gets published. 
      
      Media has become little better than the web in that regard; if you see it, if you like it, if it will raise hackles then repeat it!  And that's not journalism; it is rabble rousing, gossiping  and rumor mongering.  I demand better of my news sources - if that's all I want there is plenty of it to be found on the computer screen (or over the backyard fence, for that matter).

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         LongTimeMotherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Happy to say that Australian media is still held accountable. Our investigative journalists have to satisfy network lawyers they could win a defamation  case before controversial stories are aired. Media outlets that fail to uphold standards end up in court and prosecuted. Rebel Wilson received a big payout from a magazine that didn’t cross check a story about her relatively recently. We get US stations on Foxtel over here but I don’t bother watching them.

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            We walk a fine line between freedom of the press, free speech, etc. and censorship.  Not sure how I'd feel about heavy controls on media, but at the same time I expect some kind of self-policing.  And we're not getting it - instead we're getting "news" that is little more than a street corner soapbox promoting whatever political stance the producers think will draw the most advertising dollars.

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   JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years ago

   If anyone is looking for the truth, CNN, BBC, MSNBC and CSPAN are good places to start. Accuracy is their hallmark with the occasional error which is to be expected. Spanky Trump who will be long gone soon, has been caught in over 2,000 demonstrable lies by the media and this incredible number excludes his misrepresentations etc.
   
   Fox as everyone knows is a right wing nut case propaganda outlet which should be indicted for treason.

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Every liberal news station mentioned above is as biased to the left as Fox is to the right, there is far more liberal bias in the news media overall and everyone knows that ,
   -Manifest liberal indoctrination of youth in schools ; Complete
   -Manifest indoctrination of and by college professors ; Complete 
   -Manifest indoctrination of news media ;Complete
   -Manifest indoctrination of democratic party ;Complete
   Congratulations ;
   Your children are no longer capable of independent thought . Fact.

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      JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Morning ahorseback. Children are quite capable of independent thought and If you consider the truth to be a bias to the left then yes, you are correct in your assessment. Maybe that's why Fox is considered non-factual in nature. Mr.soon to be gone Trump is constantly blabbering about fake news which in and of itself are just more lies piled on top of his obvious serious mental problems.
      
      He insisted Rex Tillerson was not leaving as reported by CNN and he called it fake news yet Tillerson is leaving so I guess it was very accurate inside reporting not fake news at all, the same with McMasters and he's leaving as well and the list of Trump's blatant lies and false fake news accusations is almost endless, just one reason why I'm sure his attorney Dowd hit the road, not to mention his reported pardon suggestions to Flynn and Manifort which in this context is just another count of obstruction of justice.
      
      Trump is more radioactive than J. Robert Oppenheimer's atomic bomb laboratory which is why all reputable lawyers will stay at least 100 miles away from this Russian Sympathizing Puppet.
      
      The real question is, how is this national disgrace still in the oval office?

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Trump is still in office because biased slander from the news media does not and as of yet cannot impeach , in spite of the fact so many on the left believe it . Trump was elected because a majority of centrist  voters of both parties  wanted nothing but to clean up the two party swamp that IS the government in America today .   Trump also fights a high tide made up of establishment democrats , do nothing republicans and  so  biased a news media as to alter the very reality of the ongoing and very fluid politics  in America today . Trump's popularity % puts him about equal with Obama's, That cannot be denied.
         
         Biggest problem  --Too many believe whatever the news media puts out today and are incapable of independent thought enough to make up their own minds ,thereby needing others to do that for them ..

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            JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Spanky Trump has yet to be impeached because con man republican Paul Ryan and Fox propaganda outlet are his witting accomplices but when Dems win congress in a landslide this November, impeachment hearings will immediately begin to remove this unfit, mentally broken, elderly danger to society.
            
            It's nothing less than insane to even think this hallucination prone worm is still walking the halls of the white house untethered as he undermines America.
            
            Clean the swamp? Your phony president exchanged the DC swamp with a filthy sewer comprised of more conservative crooks, con men, cheaters, un-patriotic thieves and utter incompetent fools than anyone could have ever imagined, and that includes the corrupt first family.
            
            
            

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   I just love it that- here- the Fox News reputation  is so blatantly misreported as is Trumps present popularity polls ,  Rasmussen polls put Trump's Popularity at around what ? 45-50 % , which is higher than Obama's at the same time in his presidency .
   Yet the left having miserably failed to obstruct Trumps first year with world famous claims , is now claiming one phony mini-conspiracy after another in an attempt to hang on in the final death throw's of Fake news .
   
   If  Trump died tomorrow and made liberals extremely  happy we could at least hope the news media outlets could return to honest reporting  like Fox.

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      JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Sure, now just subtract about 12% to 14% from Rasmussen's highly inaccurate poll numbers and you're on the right track.
      
      Yes, the overwhelming majority of Americans and global citizens hate and despise not only Trump but his entire family for obvious reasons and yes, a global celebration would be on the schedule if he became deceased just like Mussolini and the same will happen soon when they are imprisoned.

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Oh please.....  nice try though ,Rasmussen is one of the most trusted as is Fox news ,  You seem to be  suffering the same symptoms that CNN has of the last few years  ; Trying to "wishbone"  public opinion where "backbone "reporting once was the norm .  If Rasmussen  is so inaccurate in Trumps popularity  then Obama's popularity must have tanked at around 10 % or so .
         
         Fox has a long way to go towards losing enough sponsorship as most American voters realise is in constant flux to begin with.   Laura Ingram  giving a nazi salute ,?That is just plain delusional .  ALL of your "radically dangerous" behavior is in the Soros driven and funded control of high school kids protesting  the second amendment , You really do think that 16 years rented their own busses , funded parades , travel around the US on talk shows , propaganda channels on their weekly allowance from mom and dad .
         
         Got some Arizona beach front land to sell to you .........cheap .

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            JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Soon to be gone Trump just recently lost about 20% in a republican ruby red district special election in PA and you expect us to believe his approval rating is at 45%? lol More power to ya my friend.
            
            It doesn't matter much anyway it will all be moot soon, if you've been following the Trump Campaign Russian Criminal  Investigation, Spanky's gonna need a divine miracle to escape prison or even worse and considering he's probably a demon of hell, a miracle is obviously out of the question for him.
            
            Stack Stormy and everything else on top of that and what do you get? Trump Chump.
            
            

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   JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years ago

   No surprise even more sponsors are dumping Fox Propaganda Channel because their retarded agents are attacking young patriotic Americans like David Hogg. We understand it's a radically dangerous right wing nut job network, but which mindless executive over there even gave serious consideration to give this hateful ugly Hitler saluter a television show to begin with and why is he she still employed?
   
   Nazi Salutes? in America? That's what it looks like to many. How crazy, disrespectful to our United States Military and anti-American is this shameful display of retardation?
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ9yAM01FeE

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Of all the desperation in the many ,many charges leveled to date , You've got zippo for proof . Really just  admit it . All your party  and Trump Deranged buddies have leveled for charges to date ; all that have been cleared , dropped  reconfigured to new names or repainted to new psychedelic colors ; all have turned into a big zippo !
   
   Even those liberals with "fairly "level heads are seeing that all the Trump obstruction  been for naught , Newsflash ;Your educators lied to you , your professors lied to you ,your parents lied to you and  your newly formed and twisted media lied to you.  It must be difficult coming to a full realization that there are at least seven more years of this staring you in the face .
   
   M.A.G.A.
   

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      Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      There's no proof Theodore Roosevelt said that:  https://www.truthorfiction.com/teddy-ro … lie-quote/

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Oh well , who ever posted it knows pretty much whats going on in todays political scene wouldn't you say.......:-}

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            Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            There's no justification. And it looks like it's off topic.

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               So what is "off topic " when it comes to discussion about fake news ?
               

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                  Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  The quote for starters.

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                     ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Apparently Only to the lovers of Fake News .

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                        Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Lover of fake news? No, I don't read breitbart, IJR, WND or watch Fox or Sinclair stations or any other click-bait sites that I mentioned in an article I wrote nearly a year ago.

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                           ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           But CNN is what , biblical truth to you ? Tell me you don't watch Democracy Now .........;-}

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                              Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Never said that... I simply stated I dont listen or read horribly written garbage that can't back up any of its claim and merely operate as a propaganda tool.

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Yea .......I don't watch CNN either
   no Msnbc...
   no CBS......
   no ABC......
   they're all phony .

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      Dean Traylorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I tend to read to form an opinion rather than to read to affirm one. I need to for my writing projects.( and newspapers tend to be better sources anyway). Fake news as the one I've mentioned generally cater to people's confirmation bias and that's why they're generally useless.

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         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Then you are the exception and not the rule .  Most are pre programmed not to think for themselves and simply and lazily follow the party line .  I find that the right often goes lazy route and the left the youth indoctrination route.

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            JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            That's precious, a Trump voter is trying to school everyone on fake news? Well, if not for lies, deception, propaganda, untruths, phony diatribes and mindless vicious attacks on Americans, our Military, our POWs, Our Gold Star Families and just about every other patriotic individual and institution, Fox fake anchors and Spanky Trump would have no valid reason to open their mouths.
            
            How does everyone like liar Trump's recklessly insane trade war with China so far? Fox backed it too. Nothing like taking a sledge hammer to our once rock solid economy that President Obama built. Is this insanity designed to appease Vladimir Putin? But don't worry, Trump says trade wars are easy to win and it's good for you, yup just like dropping a bowling ball on your head.
            
            Here's the documentation: This excludes the avalanche of lies Trump has spewed while campaigning pre-election day: There's absolutely something very wrong upstairs with this sick elderly man as many experts attest to and this danger to society may even have a nuke button: Who's fake? Read this shocking report: You won't find these facts at fox.
            
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac … 52b1ca2121
            
            And watch this shocking video: Why does a right wing Fox nut case like bitter angry Laura Ingraham feel comfortable enough in the United States of America to mimic a nazi salute? Then she mocks our American youth who are making us safer with each passing day? maybe our children are just not pure enough for her taste?
            
            Who at fox hired this disgrace?
            
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ9yAM01FeE

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               ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Well Now ,there's a fairly colorful response.

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                  JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  More accurate and extremely troubling than colorful.

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    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    Actually I was trying to be rather nice in the face of someones apparent delusion .

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    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    There is a huge difference between recognizing or following a prescribed line of thought and the beauty of thinking for oneself . But hey .....I'm not pointing fingers .

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    JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years ago

    I'm not even sure what you mean ahorseback, but back on topic. No thoughts on how a decision maker at fox fake propaganda outlet would even think of giving this hate filled fool a television show? Perhaps the fox decision maker thought this kind of nazi propaganda that our relatives died for to defeat in the 1940's, might appeal to their delusional white nationalist audience? Yeah, build that wall !!
    
    Sure looks like a nazi salute to me and others and this disturbing display of anti-Americanism actually happened on national television in the United States not too long ago and it continues in Our White House to this very day: That's how twisted and evil fox and the presidency has become over the last year:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ9yAM01FeE
    
    
    

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       PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Hey, Jake, I'm going to cry foul on the photo, as I don't think it's clear that Ingraham was doing a Nazi salute and I don't like it when either side takes a visual snippet out of context to imply nefarious intent that is not clearly present.
       
       That said, it couldn't happen to a nastier person than Laura Ingraham. She has no problem lying about and demeaning innocent people so, believe me, it took a lot of effort on my part to call this out.

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          JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well PrettyPanther, here's the vid to back up the still imagei hich clearly illustrates what many believe is a nazi salute and I don't think there's a debate about her fox audience which is comprised primarily of nazi white nationalist who are drooling for a wall to keep brown people out of the United States which was actually built by humans of color.
          
          Pretty clear what this atrocious fool's intent is and it takes a lot of nerve to do this in the United States of America when our relatives died to repel this hateful evil sentiment:
          
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MNb8_9YeQ

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             ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             Jake , I hear that Laura is also sporting a Hitler mustache  but  I can't make out her upper lip in the  video , must be one of my settings .......;-]

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                JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Actually ahorseback, fostering an evil white nationalist hatred that my relatives died to prevent in the 1940's as fox fake channel and their surrogates like Laura Ingraham and Sean Hammity spew nightly, is really no laughing matter. They spew it in the very same country that crushed it decades ago, the United States of America.
                
                From your lack of compassion, we'd have to assume none of your relatives where ever they came from were involved in WW2. If they were, you might think differently and switch over to the left side, the side that resists and opposes these parasites.
                
                Yeah, build that wall baby and stop that big bad Mexican invasion !!
                
                Are you really surprised sponsors are dumping the fox propaganda outlet in droves?
                
                Looks kind of archaic and barbaric now in the year 2018 doesn't it? But Spanky Trump is blowing a few gaskets to get it built before he's imprisoned.
                
                By Jakub Hałun - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6909926
                
                

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                   ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                   Oh Jake ,where do I begin .....This is going to be fun .... First ,  In WWII my Father was an U.S. army infantryman in the invasion of the beaches of Normandy all the way to and including the war "mop up and recovery reparations" for almost a year after Germany surrendered . Second , he was directly involved in the liberation with Pattons 3rd army  of two different concentration camps , Third , he was wounded by shrapnel , bayonet  and machine gun fire three separate  times gaining him 2 purple hearts and a silver star , fourth , he fought and remained in service all through the "Battle of the Bulge " , something I'm sure most of us couldn't handle and Fifth ,  he lived a long life with the nightmares of witnessing the absolute horrors of the "Nazis "party and the third Reich , he was left standing at the end across the  Elbe River from the Russian army awaiting Patton's orders as to whether he was now going to cross the river and fight the Russian army ,...........so , I don't think I need your Nazi lecture .
                   
                   Guess what ?  Laura Ingram doesn't resemble anything in the least  to do with Nazi Germany and  it's rather immature to suggest that ! But if the shoe fits , wear it .

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                      JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      If all that's true horseback, it would be impossible for you to defend white nationalist hater Laura Ingraham, Sean Hammity and fox propaganda channel as you apparently do.
                      
                      A so called network like failing fox that fosters hate, bigotry and Mexican paranoia and caters to nazi white nationalists as Spanky Trump does, certainly does not have the best interests of ww2 vets or the military in mind.

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                         ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                         And you sir  absolutely don't know of what you speak.

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    ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

    I  can't wait until the hate speech police finally arrives at hubpage forums like they are now at Face -Book with their F-B- Supreme Court proposal  , when  Laura Ingram's waving at the crowd becomes a Nazi salute to the left  ; we have reached a point where absolute delusion replaces the one reality !

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       PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       

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          ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Zuckerberg from F- B has introduced the idea of a supreme court to combat hate speech .  I guess he's grasping at straws to maintain something of the demolition of his F-B following after selling out all of his customers.

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       dianetrotterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Fluttering fingers would have nailed it.

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          ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          It  is kind of ridiculous thought that a wave can be construed by some [ his many ] as a nazi salute . But hey  I guess he was there right ?...I mean .....right?

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