Einstein vs God

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   TruthDebaterposted 13 years ago

   Which has more believers, Einstein and gravity, or a specific God?
   
   Which has more power and influence, Einstein or a specific God?
   
   
   Which sides with determinism or free will, Einstein or God?

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      Rishy Richposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Argumentum ad populum...

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      Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      God created Einstein, God wins.

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      masaaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      well we should ask Jesus einstein is dead so i guess God wins

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         Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Jeebus dun ded 2. I win.

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      ChurchOfOpenSkyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      God created the Universe with Gravity which Einstein tried to explain when he was alive.

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   LeanManposted 13 years ago

   I would rather see the wrestling match... In the blue corner............

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   TMMasonposted 13 years ago

   I think everyone believes in Gravity... or at least you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't
   
   So I think the whole premise of the ? is so very flawed and biased, baited and designed to trap, it isn't funny.

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      TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. Are you saying God can't compete with Einstein and gravity?

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         TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hahahaha....
         
         How do you get to that?
         
         And there is no Einstien and gravity.
         
         There is Einstien... and there is gravity.
         
         They are not conjoined, they are not even solidly related to one another. So I don't understand what your fishing for.
         
         And are you saying Einstien, but meaning his theories?

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            TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks. Who doesn't relate Einstein to gravity? He was the closest one to defining how gravity and the universe function. What would Einstein be without gravity? Yes, Einstein and his theories, which do more people have faith in, Einstein theories or God?

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               luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Consider this passage from Einstien's book "The World as I See It."
               
               The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. He who knows it not and can no longer wonder, no longer feel amazement, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. It was the experience of mystery even if mixed with fear - that engendered religion. A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
               
               Though Einstein didn't like organized religion, he was spiritual IMO, he also didn't approve of atheism.
               
               "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human understanding, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Lying for Jeebus again huh? LOLO You religionists have no morals. None.
                  
                  I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.
                  
                  Albert Einstein
                  
                  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
                  
                  Didn't approve of atheism?
                  
                  This is - of course - IMO.
                  
                  An u dun wunder wy peeps hate wot u sez - coz it b a lies.

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                     luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     "The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer~
                     
                     A.Einstein
                     
                     Perhaps "didn't Approve" were the wrong words
                     
                     He was neither an athiest or a conventionally religious person.If you need to put him into one of those boxes so you can understand him, that shows how narrow your mind is.
                     
                     Don't hate

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        LOLOLO Sez the one wot sed he didn't approve of atheism.
                        
                        Don't behave in a way guaranteed to cause hatred.
                        
                        Tell me how narrow my mind is again - that always creates love and affection. Dear me - no morals. None.

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                           luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Sorry was I behaving in a way that made you hate me?
                           
                           
                           
                           Do I care? Perhaps you hate all women.
                           
                           

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                              Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Dear me.
                              
                              No morals None.
                              
                              You are a Christian then?

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                                 luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 AHHH...poor guy, sorry if I hurt your feelings.
                                 
                                 My apologies...Dear you.
                                 
                                 Well if you don't know...how can you hate me for it?

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                                    Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    Don't hate. LOLOLOLO
                                    
                                    Morals? None.

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                                       luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       I don't hate you Mr. Knowles...I don't know you.
                                       
                                       No Morals...hmmm, for apologizing.
                                       
                                       
                                       
                                       It is harder to crack a prejudice than an atom.

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                                          Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Aww - I am so sorry. Poor little you. How awful you must feel.
                                          
                                          Too bad you couldn't be bothered to read any of the 362 hubs I have written.
                                          
                                          Don't hate and don't create hatred.

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                                       luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       Well aren't you just the big man on campus...
                                       
                                       You'll have to forgive me for not being in awe but you seem to have that down.
                                       
                                       I assure you I don't hate you...can you accept that without reading anything between the lines?
                                       
                                       

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                                          Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                          Don't hate, and do not provoke hatred. Are you capable of taking that on board without reading anything between the lines? Think you could manage that?
                                          
                                          Really impressed with your contribution by the way. I am in awe of you. Stunning. Well done.

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                                       luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       I can't say the same for my impression of your contributions though...sorry guess you'll have to pat your own-self on the back.
                                       
                                       Your turn:

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               TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So your belief in Science is based on faith?
               
               I have faith in God... I believe that which science can show me with real evidence.
               
               I don't see a conflict.
               
               As far as people in general.
               
               I am not sure people in third world countries would be familiar with Einstien or his theories, but probrably do know about a god.
               
               So I think it would be hard to put a number on something like that.
               
               I mean there are places, I am sure they do not know of Einstien, but still know of gravity. It is not as if you have to believe in Einstien to believe in gravity.
               
               But again. What do you define as "influenced"?

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                  TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks. A belief in anything involves faith. Which method leads closer to finding an objective truth, faith in religious tales without observational evidence or faith in the scientific method which requires testable and observational evidence?
                  
                  You could be right about the 3rd world countries not as familiar with Einstein as they are God. I think this just goes to show how uneducated we are as a whole/world.
                  
                  Who believes in the fundamentals of gravity without believing Einstein as the main contributor to defining gravity? I find it hard to believe any scientific book on gravity doesn't mention Einstein.
                  
                  Influenced: Which brings groups of different beliefs together in harmony to better learn and discover laws of our universe without killing each other, Einstein's relativity or a specific God?

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   Uma07posted 13 years ago

   That depends on whether you believe in science or you are a God fearing person.
   
   I personally believe there are more religious people on earth than scientists.

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      TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't see the conflict in believing in God and knowing science is a great thing.
      
      None at all.
      
      I know quite a few scietists who believe in God.

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         Uma07posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yes TMM that's exactly what I wanted to convey. Scientists can be religious too.
         I am a science student and I say my prayers before I start my work at the college lab.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I don't believe you.

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      Onusonusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      contrary to popular belief there are many scientists who believe in God.

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   Len Cannonposted 13 years ago

   I think this is a very difficult question.
   
   God has a longer reach which he can really get some mileage out of if he's smart.  But Einstein is a scrapper and if he gets inside, God just doesn't have the reaction time to make it work.  In the time it takes him to notice anything, practically YEARS have passed.
   
   God does have the weight advantage too, but Einstein is world renowned for being a thinking man's fighter.  This could really come down to the wire and I think it will be one of the biggest pay-per-view events of the year.
   
   Right now, I'm putting it on a split decision for God after 15.

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   DarkHobbesposted 13 years ago

   What about scientists who support Einstein and happen to be people of faith. Your question doesn't leave room for them.

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   Pcunixposted 13 years ago

   Who cares?
   
   Religious belief decreases with intelligence and education.
   
   That's statistics, but you can always find outliers because religion is always much more about emotion than anything else.
   
   Whatever Einstein believed or did not believe is meaningless.

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   Mr. Blobbyposted 13 years ago

   Einstein wins!

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   PeppermintPaddyposted 13 years ago

   God gave Einstein to mankind to spread his knowledge.

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    TruthDebaterposted 13 years ago

    Did Einstein lean toward a deterministic world and universe or towards a universe with free will?

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