Hubpages implimenting new filters?

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   Appletreedealsposted 13 years ago

   Not a complaint... yet, as the Hub team has not had time to respond to my email contacts,
   
   but, just wanted to know if anyone else experienced this.
   
   Just has 4 well-aged hubs unpublished for being overly promotional
   
   only 1 of the 4 had 3 links, and one of those was an info link to a spec sheet for the product on the manufacturer's site.
   
   the other 3 only had two links - 1 for me, (affiliate), and one to the product spec sheet - No affiliation or benefit to me.
   
   but I do have a links capsule with multiple reviews and info links that benefit the reader, none of which I am affiliated with or benefit from.
   
   Could this be a new links filter that Hubpages needs to tweak?
   
   GA

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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I may be wrong BUT since there are thousands of hubs and the team relies a lot on other members to flag anything that automatic content filters don't.
      
      Which means that a hubpages member may have stumbled across your hub, decided that it looked inappropriate for some reason and then flagged it. The team would have manually checked it and decided from there what happened....

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   Appletreedealsposted 13 years ago

   @Wrylit - thanks for the response. but...
   
   I would hope that it is a filter thing rather than a hub-hopper flagging it because if it is the result of flagging than someone has a much more righteous perception of their importance than is healthy.
   
   There is absolutely nothing in the hub's structure that even smells like over-promotion. I would give you a link to illlustrate, but alas, they are unpublished until this is resolved.
   
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      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just because a hub gets flagged doesn't mean that it will necessarily be taken down - just that the team will take a closer look.
      
      I flag about 50% of the hubs I see in the hopper even if they are only borderline rule breaking. The main reasons the team is so diligent in removing bad content is to stop the site appearing to be too much of a spam fest and also to make sure no one loses their Adsense account.
      
      But see what the team say - I'm sure they had a reason.

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A Hub flagged by another site user will only get unpublished if the admin team has looked at it, AND decides there Is a genuine problem, ie something that is violation of the rules.  Flagging by site users just alerts admin to take a look, no action is taken until they do.  And if that's the case, you get an email saying why.
      
      If a filter catches a Hub, you'll fund some sort of message at the top of it, and can write to admin for both clarification, and a manual review.
      
      If you report a problem over the weekend, it does take them longer to review it as the full team isn't in over the weekends and posting or emailing them again won't speed anything up.  You'll have to wait for the backlog to be cleared.

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         Appletreedealsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         @Relache - I agree with all you said.
         
         I did not think it was a Hubber flag issue, because there WAS a msg in the header, and it was 4 similar product hubs, and no contact from the Hub team describing a problem
         
         - but... Wrylit hit a tender spot with me and Hubber flaggers
         
         And I did contact them on a week-end, and as my past team experience has been positive, I am in no rush to voice a complaint.
         
         I am optimistic it is a filter problem that can be corrected with human review.
         
         GA
         
         ps. for the record. I do believe a little self-policing by other hubbers flagging sub-par pages is very helpful to Hubpages overall.
         
         but... some of the hubber forum comments in this area indicate an over zealous application of the "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" rule, or perhaps there is also a sprinkling of the contamination that comes from the "power corrupts and...etc" totem.
         
         Perhaps hub flaggers should be required to document hub author contact first.

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            relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Why? 
            
            If I find someone who is cranking out low-quality Hubs, I'm not going to waste my time trying to talk to them about it, as it's not my job, it's the admin team's job.  I'm just going to flag the Hub (or profile if it's that bad).  That alerts the admin team, and they can then evaluate the situation and take any appropriate action.

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               Appletreedealsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               @Relache - couple of reasons, (and a 3rd that can't be validated)
               
               1. There is the chance it is an unknowing error that the author would gladly correct when it is pointed out. Save the Hub team a little work, maybe, before they have to get involved
               
               2. Perhaps the Hub flagger is full of "stuff" and a little time and communication would allow a re-evaluation before sending more work to the Hub team. Kinda like the adage: never press "send" while you are still angry.
               
               3. the unvalidated reason - there are some good hubbers hopping hubs and providing a diligent and worthwhile effort, but there are also some ya-hoos that should not have the authority to click a flag button without the balloon-prick test first.
               
               and as Forrest would say, "and that's all I'm gonna say bout that"
               
               GA

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                  relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You seem to be overlooking the fact that only the admin team is qualified to make content judgments in relation to the TOS or Google's AdSense rules.
                  
                  Having received several thank-yous from admin over the last four years for my flagging of spam, I'm just going to stick with my present methods.

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   saleheensblogposted 13 years ago

   how long it is since you mailed them?

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      Appletreedealsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      @saleheensblog - It has only been 24 hrs, that's why I posed it as a question, not a complaint.
      
      The Hubpages team has been very helpful and responsive in the past, and I see no reason not to expect a similar timely response this time.
      
      GA
      
      @Wrylit - if your hub-hopping results in a 50% crapper rate, perhaps it is not a conversation you and I should engage in
      
      GA

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         WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         That was example only - if your hubs were aged, they shouldn't be in the hopper at all.
         
         The hopper has a cut off for hubscore and age I believe - so if someone posts a hub that is already matured to 70 or more it either won't appear there or will only be in there for a few hours.
         
         If you've ever used the hub hopper you'll find that a lot of it is spam.

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         saleheensblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         As you have already passed 24 hours I would suggest you to post the problem in report a problem forum. Was there a holiday yesterday? If not you can mail them again. usually the replies within 6 hours though I would wait for another 24 hour if these were my hubs. I wish you get your problems solved. http://hubpages.com/contact_us/

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            Appletreedealsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            @saleheensblog - thanks for your response. I am already familiar with the process.
            
            GA

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   It doesn't matter of it is a deliberate mistae or nt.  It is the hubber's job to follow the rules, the hub staff's job to help them do it, and everyone's job to alert them to the need to do so and help the hubber and the hubber staff do their jobs more effectively.  Win/win.  If i am breaking a rule, I would rather know about it promptly than 'get away with it' and repicate the problem on a bunch of other hubs.

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   Appletreedealsposted 13 years ago

   UPDATE
   Score another one for the Hub team. Received response and issue is corrected with human intervention.
   
   It was a filter-catch. No biggie - just Hub pages looking out for everyone's interest.
   
   GA

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