How is Traffic Distributed? How do you Get on the Front Page?

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   americababyposted 12 years ago

   I got this hub up to 91 rating.  I'm trying to get traffic from Google so that people see it.  I had a success on Reddit which brought a lot of traffic to it.  I was able to get 20 up votes on it.  Everything is good about the hub from Hubpages perspective.
   
   1.  good feedback
   
   2.  high paying in demand keywords
   
   3.  non Google high volume traffic gotten by me
   
   4.  Content that is especially relevant to both hubpages authors and huge percentages of the country that are looking for legitimate ways to add to their income.
   
   So in every way this article is a winner.  If I could get it in front of a real audience I think there is a very good chance it would go viral.  Since my big boost of traffic on Reddit I've been trying to keep that momentum going.  It's difficult because Reddit gives you like 3 days.
   
   Additionally it's really tough to get people to read it when it's not in the search engine because of all the spam out there.  As soon as they see that the article talks about money they don't want to read it. 
   
   I think I've done all I can to plug it.  So it's frustrating a little bit because any article that talks about making money labels you a spammer when you are trying to promote it.  They think there is some affliate thing at the end that I am trying to get them into.
   
   So even with that decent amount of traffic hubpages is only sending me like 20 vistitors a day.  I appreciate those visitors very much but I believe that this is the type of article that should be on the front page.  This country is hurting right now.  People need all the relevant ways they can get to legitimately save and make more money.
   
   I won't link to it.  It's about selling moving boxes if you want to read it.  That's not even my point.
   
   I want to get on the front page but now I figure it's not even possible now. I wrote an article that disagrees with Patti Inglish.  My article for sure was brutal but it's how I actually felt. 
   
   I honestly didn't conciously think about the ramifications of pissing Patti off.  I don't think I should have to think about it.  I'm sure an article about safe drinking water in the artic is incredibly helpful.  How much money is that going to make the site though?

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      Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Could you explain what you mean by "sending"?  HubPages doesn't distribute  any traffic - if you're seeing traffic "from HubPages" on your stats, it means visitors who've come from another Hub or done a HubPages search.
      
      
      
      Disagreeing with Patti won't do you any harm (unless you get banned for attacking another Hubber - I don't know how "brutal" your article was).  But anyway, getting on the front page of HubPages will make zip difference to your traffic.  The active HubPages community is very small, and very few external visitors ever see the front page - they all arrive at specific Hubs after looking for specific subjects.  They then browse around by doing more searches, or clicking on related Hubs.
      
      
      
      You can get readers if it's not in the search engines, but nothing like the number you need to make money from your Hub.  Rather than knock yourself out trying to attract small numbers of Hubbers, take some time to create some backlinks to your Hub, to improve your Google ranking.

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         americababyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I mean how they structure their main page.  It would be interesting if they could somehow create a totally seperate part of the site for reading content.  Have the hubbers on one side of it and the readers on the other side of it.  I know that hubbers are also readers.  From outside it might look like the hubbers are too involved and connected to the readers.  If it was structured that way it might look better from Googles perspective.  Just letting the content stand on its own.  I guess what I am saying is that one side should be the creative side and the other should be the finished side.  The creative side could then collaborate more on making the content side stronger.  You could even have open articles where the impressions were split based on how much of a writers content was in the final draft of the article as a percentage.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            And how would that help?
            
            You are assuming that readers arrive at HubPages on the "main page" and then browse around the content.  They don't.  Very few people type "Hubpages.com" into their browser.   There aren't many people who visit HubPages regularly just to browse around.
            
            HubPages gets the vast majority of its visitors from the search engines, where people type in search queries for specific subjects, and then visit Hubs related to that subject.  Most of them don't even notice what website they're on.

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               WryLiltposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Agree with Marisa.
               
               Hubpage members are very unlikely to click adverts or give you backlinks either.
               
               And where did you find your "high paying keywords"? Coz usually the more they pay, the more chance that the topic is saturated and you'll never see traffic because EVERYONE is writing on that topic.

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   sofsposted 12 years ago

   Lol I wonder how Patti English is even remotely connected to your traffic .. Google traffic..
   I am sure Patti doesn't care what you wrote... you have voiced your opinion and even if she did...what could she do to your traffic.
   Learn how to get your hubs Search Engine optimized and work on it... traffic will come your way.

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      americababyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well if she has pull on hubpages it might affect if I ever get "hub of the day".  Are you telling me to Google the word traffic?  or are you talking about how Patti could affect Google traffic?  That situation happened recently.  I have reason to believe that there is some effect from that.  I specifcally asked how to get on the front page and not about SEO advice.  If you noticed I mentioned things like keywords etc. 
      I was trying to explain how it's a lot more difficult to do SEO for the type of article I wrote because getting the backlinks to rank well can be viewed as spammy by the places you are trying to get them from.
      I want to know how Hubpages distributes their traffic to hubs and if there is a process that sees shen certain hubs are seeing bursts of traffic and then good resulting feedback from that traffic.
      
      If I get 1000 vistiors completely from my own promotion that should be a pretty good indication that there is some heat on the article.  Especially considering the amount of followers I have and the source of the traffic.
      
      So if you take all those things toghether someone should pick up on that and start to try to throw even more traffic on somethign while the momentum is in place.

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         WryLiltposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I write articles and rarely, if ever, bother with promotion or backlinking. And I get plenty of traffic. As has been pointed out, internal traffic does nothing. And internal ranking has nothing to do with Google ranking.

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   sofsposted 12 years ago

   I was saying Patti has no effect whatsoever on your traffic... Search engine Traffic... Back linking is the only way to get to the first page... of Google. Hubs  do take time... Hub of the day doesn't help much to catapult your hub to First page on Google searches ... I can say that from experience..
   Being on the front pages of Hubpages may help get you some traffic but that is only for a limited time. You need to work on getting traffic consistently from search engines... There is a lot of material out there about in page optimization and such which could help you... Best wishes to you!

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   Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

   Well, we all think that our articles are worthy of Hub of the Day. That there is nothing better out there. There are thousands of hubbers writing every day and there is one hub of the day. It has nothing to do with who you know.
   
   As far as I know, the Hub of the Day has everything to do with quality, not how much money it can make.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   If you want to see an example of a how a Hub of the Day should be written, and what HP are looking for, I believe I wrote one a while back.  I'll go get the link.
   
   edit: Oh. It seems I didn't.

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      LeanManposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I hope that was not an attempt at self promotion mark you know what happens to naughty boys who do that!! You will sit on the naughty step for 3 months!!!

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   NatalieSackposted 12 years ago

   I don't know how HubPages chooses 'front page' material, but you are making an assumption about what an audience wants to read.  You can say that you, "...believe that this is the type of article that should be on the front page.  This country is hurting right now.  People need all the relevant ways they can get to legitimately save and make more money," and that might be what we need, but historically, demographics show audiences  want escapism during bad economies.  Hence the preponderance of new sitcoms during recessions.

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   LeanManposted 12 years ago

   Generally what people need to read and want to read are different things - give them what they want to read that way they will be searching for it and you have a chance of capturing their attention and funneling them to what you think they "need" to read to answer their problems....
   
   Research the keywords and write to get the traffic - backlink and promote to raise yourself up in the serps but don't do it through spam!!
   
   Learn about SEO!!!! There are plenty of good hubs on this site to help you - just use the search box or go straight to the help section..
   
   Good luck

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   2uesdayposted 12 years ago

   The front page did have a different layout when I joined HubPages and that allowed more people to have their hubs featured on the front page.
   
   I do n't think hub of the day would have a mega effect on your income from one hub. It might boost your views slightly short term but as others have said what you really need is traffic from search engines on a regular basis.
   
   I really doubt the Hubber you mention has a 'hot line' to the HubPages team, so it is highly unlikely that your actions have sabotaged your attempts to arrive on the front page.

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