Help? Hubs That Have Been Spun or Copied Literally Thousands of Times

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   Kylyssaposted 9 years ago

   I don't know where to start so please bear with me.
   
   I have multiple hubs that have been copied and/or spun literally over a thousand times each.  If you don't understand what I mean by that, go to Google search and type in "Gift of the Gruldak" without quotation marks.
   
   I chose Gruldak as an example because I used a word in the title that does not exist in the English language and there can be little doubt that most of the results that come up were spun or copied from my Hubs.  There are also only a few hundred legitimate mentions online using that word, including uses having to do with a person who co-incidentally chose Grul'dak as a username on a role-playing game.  That person doesn't have many mentions online, so all of that junk that comes up that isn't mine or his is spun or stolen.  Over a thousand results for that one title are spun trash!!!
   
   It really won't hurt that particular hub series because people are finding it through the magazines that link to it and from searching for science fiction serials online but it is likely the only hub that won't be harmed by such hijinks.  Its inclusion of a nearly unique word just makes it a good example and a very cut and dried case.
   
   A fair number of my other hubs have just as many if not more spun copies out there but since they are spun to heck and gone and those hubs only contain words in standard English it's hard to really even discern which are bad spins of my articles from what must be bad spins of other people's articles.
   
   Every day there are more.
   
   I would literally never have time to do anything else in my good working hours if I filed DMCA notices on all of them.  I doubt I'd ever actually get ahead of them or even ever just stop falling further behind on them.
   
   If you want to add insult to injury, type "Kylyssa HubPages" into Google without the quotation marks, heck, if you're a masochist type in your own username and HubPages.  I don't want to be associated with freaking Ugg boot knockoffs and big green buttons that put adware on innocent clickers' computers!
   
   Obviously filing DMCA notices on a hundred thousand (give or take a few) pages will not work.  Starting afresh with entirely new content is obviously also not the answer because the Hubs get scraped often within hours of getting featured. 
   
   What the bleep can I do about this?

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   fridayonmymindposted 9 years ago

   Not that it's any consolation, but I have the same issue.  One of my hubs has been spun so many times that Google made the original hub invisible.  It's more than frustrating to copy a section of my original text into Google's search box and have hundreds of sites come up with that exact text, but no sign of my original hub!  If I Google the title of my hub along with "hubpages", my hub is not there, but I can see the rip offs.  I've got rid of some, but it would be a full time job to stay on top of it.  As a result, my traffic is down to only 10% of what it was only a couple of months ago.  Wish I had a solution.

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   aesta1posted 9 years ago

   I know that this will be a continuing battle. It happens all the time. As you've all said, we don't have the time to run after them and they know this. I have not even searched for my own hubs. The first time I saw my article copied word for word, I sent a message to the person but up to now I have never learned to file a report to Google. I finally just took out that article. I just told myself to write another one. It is really very discouraging. I will now start learning how to file the report to Google and start reporting. A little action will help.

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   chef-de-jourposted 9 years ago

   I think it's important to get some DMCAs sent off.It boosts morale if you can get one site or even one article taken down and sends a message to scrapers and spinners. We have to face reality, there are too many cheats out there but we should not give in. One day some clever techno wizard will invent a foolproof way for the genuine writer to have sole ownership of their work. As soon as you start to tap on these little keys with original text, some mechanism kicks in and locks the copyright onto your page. Surely there's a way? I've asked this question before and all I got back from just about everyone in the know was ..because it's on a screen anyone can copy it.
   I wish you good luck.Keep creating original work, and get the DMCA done, and move onward and upward.

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      jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, chef-de-jour. I just filed another one myself. We have to address as many as we can to send the message that HP writers won't stand for it anymore. You have to make sure you file the claim with the right entity via the right email address. I have had success with my content being removed. Good luck and blessings, Kylyssa.

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         Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I've also had a lot of success getting copies taken down.  In fact, I've never had a DMCA report turned down for scraped content.  Spun content is a different story.  It's hit or miss and it's understandable because it take a person reading the spin to confirm it's a spun copy rather than an article in its own right.
         
         The problem is volume. The numbers in my post above aren't hyperbole, they are approximate but literal.  You filled out one report, but how long would it take you to fill out a thousand, ten thousand, or a hundred thousand? 
         
         I'm not sure what filling out DMCA reports on a handful of pages out of thousands would actually do even just for my morale. 
         
         I've come up with a strategy to use different Google reports for Spam and scraped content because they take less time to file.  I explained at http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/126854 and you might want to give them a try, too.  I won't be able to report more than maybe ten percent of the scrapes and spins due to the number of hours in the day and my need to earn money to survive but it might make a small dent.

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            jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Wow, I see. Spun is different. I will check out that forum. Thanks.

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      Kylyssaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It would be sufficient to create tools as automated as those used to scrape to locate the scrapes and spins and fill in the reports automatically.  I've been expecting Google to come up with one because all this crap hurts them, too.  It looks bad when your search engine kicks out things that look good until the user clicks them to discover they are spun gibberish past the first two sentences.

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   robertzimmerman2posted 9 years ago

   What is amazing in it's own perverted way, Kylyssa, is that basically Google really does not care in my view because it's all just more ads to sell.
   
   If Google was serious about content quality and not profits, they would put into their code a check for publication date and only display the original document.

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