What do you consider the truth to be?

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   Sold Out to Jesusposted 12 years ago

   What do you consider the truth to be?
   
   Can there be one truth that is sufficient for everyone?

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   Dubuquedogtrainerposted 12 years ago

   Yes, God and His Word. Nothing else is reliable. Truth is not relative. It is absolute. That is not to say that 8 blind men cannot describe an elephant from 8 different perspectives - but when they do, they do so with a limited perspective and incomplete information.

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   reeltaulkposted 12 years ago

   The truth is that thing that makes whoever receiving it uncomfortable, makes interaction awkward maybe even a tad bit frustrated.   Uncomfortable not because you have been brazen, forward or untruthful.  But uncomfortable because whatever lie was potent enough to cloud "judgement" no longer reigns.  Leaving ones conscious responsible from there on in.

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   PhiMaths ATBposted 12 years ago

   I don't think that truth is definable, rather, it is a primitive notion. Nonetheless, it is a powerful notion, both formally and informally. It seems to me that any definition of truth will beg the question, as it is such an ingrained nation to most of us. The best answer I can give is the same one that Tasrki gave ~80 years ago: T(P) iff P where P is some proposition that presumably can be true or false.

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   swordsbaneposted 12 years ago

   Sorry.  I'm kind of literal when it comes to things like this.  The truth is whatever is.  It is not subject to opinion or feelings or spiritual leanings.  If you try to put your hand through a wall and fail.  It is true that you didn't put your hand through the wall.  Without any additional information, nothing else can be determined.
   
   The truth is that the sun comes around once a day.  The truth is that 2+2=4.  The truth is that if you're standing on ice, it is harder to keep your footing.
   
   Any speculation about God or His word or your soul is just that: speculation.  It may be real for you, but it is not "true" in the strictest sense.
   
   BTW: I know blind people who can describe an elephant more accurately and more completely than most sighted people.

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      Sold Out to Jesusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So, for you the proof is in eating the pudding, so to say. Would an act of God that you witness be enough?

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   viveresperandoposted 12 years ago

   Two people can interpret the same facts and come to different conclusions.  One truth that is sufficient for everyone?  Hmm.  Dubuquedogtrainer answered very well.  If we take religion out of it. Well, we all make decisions, thoughts, opinions based on what we know.  What we know is what we have learned, heard, tasted, seen, felt, experienced and touched in our lives.  All of those experiences and many more can help or hinder our thoughts at times.  So, two people can interpret the same facts and come to different conclusions or truths and they are both correct and true to each individual.  For example, I was driving with a friend, I accidentally got int the wrong lane.  There was a truck coming straight at us.  I got annoyed and switched to the lane that I should have been driving.  I was annoyed.  My friend freaked out.  She thought she was going to die.  Her experience was so intense she did not even realized that I was the one that got out of the way, not the truck.  We agreed on the facts.  I was driving. I got into the wrong lane.  Big truck coming at us.  Her conclusion we were going to day.  My conclusion I was annoyed at myself for making this mistake.  It never once occurred to me that I was going to die.  She was very happy  to be alive, she was positive we were going to die.  We both agreed on the same facts.  Different conclusions, different truths.  Each truth, true to each of us, each truth was in no way fabricated and we both agreed to the same facts.

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   Civil War Bobposted 12 years ago

   Well, in 10 hours, the score is Transcendentalists 5, Christians 3...since I add my 2 cents to Dubuque's eloquent statement and Sold Out's comment.  I would add that Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life; nobody comes to the Father but through Me."  It seems rather a narrow, redneck sort of statement, but you must admit, He's affected history rather significantly, here in 2012 Anno Domini...Year of our Lord, that is, for you non-Latin speakers!
   Anybody reading this, feel free to gimme a shout for discussion!!

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   Darrell Robertsposted 12 years ago

   I agree with swordsbane.  The truth can only be the truth, it is not subject to interpitation.  It has to be a reality for all people like it or not.  Physical Death will come to all people, that is the truth. There is not debating the cat that no one is going to live on this planet forever physically.  That is the only truth that I am able to think of that applies to everyone.
   
   I know that science has been looking for a way to cheat Death, but think of it this way, even planets, and stars eventually die.
   
   Relgion has to get taken out of the equation because there are too many of them, so what ever relirion chosen will not be sufficient for everyone.  Except the relirion that we wil all die at some point in time. 
   
   Best wishes.

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   OneFineG467posted 12 years ago

   The truth is world is not getting younger or any better by our uncompromising action  and civilzation ...

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