How can you be in the government, yet hate government?

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   stanwshuraposted 11 years ago

   How can you be in the government, yet hate government?
   
   I get the adversarial political system - we the voters need to see the "warts and all", and so I get a multi-party system.  But how can one of those major *government* parties have (or purport to have) a limited government platform with a straight face?

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   Onusonusposted 11 years ago

   People who truly believe in limited government want to be in the government to stop people who believe in big government from taking everything over.

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      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So, in their eyes, they have to get their hands dirty to keep the system, of which they are a part, clean?!  I just can't wrap my head around that.  There has to be more to it than altruistic self-sacrifice.  They all sell pork to their home base.

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      Onusonusposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There is nothing in this ideology which would morally prevent a person from participating in politics. In fact it fundamentally requires that we make laws that limit government. Like what the founding fathers did when they drafted the constitution.

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      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Make a law to limit law??  That should not be at all necessary.  If it isn't specifically prohibited, I may, can and will do it at my leisure.  Implied laws or rules are absolutely unfair and have no validity.  Letter rules, not man.

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   Attikosposted 11 years ago

   How can a major American political party fail to have a platform of limited government? That after all is what the federal government's charter, the US Constitution, outlines. To support anything else is to advocate overthrow of it.
   
   That being said, each of the major US political parties supports unlimited government, when it is the party in power. Each opposed it when the other is. The platforms are irrelevant. That is a clue to what is going on.

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      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Limited - yes, absent - no, or else the Constitution would be self-destructive.  Law IS big government, be it a traffic regulation or the 1st Amendment.

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      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No, that's not true. The law is not big (by which most people mean pervasive) government. The law exists in all nonarchist systems. No one in any organized political party is calling for anarchy.

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      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Now you've piqued my curiosity.  Has there ever, in human history, been a truly successful AND truly anarchic society.  Is "anarchic society" an oxymoron? lol

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      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's not an oxymoron, but it can exist only in a very small society. Think tiny villages. Even then, it never has existed for long. Society needs rules and enforcement methods, either formal or loose.

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   TNT Huskyposted 11 years ago

   I think of it this way: you can have ANY job and hate it. what makes government any different?

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      stanwshuraposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Most people who dislike their jobs don't do so as an expression of idealogy, which then would be and is hypocrisy, as would be professing it so vehemently and then becoming a part of what they CLAIM to be against.  Deed must match word.

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