What is it about gun control that makes people so crazy? Wouldn't "some" be bett

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   Sandi Kroegerposted 7 years ago

   What is it about gun control that makes people so crazy? Wouldn't "some" be better than NONE?
   
   I understand the 2nd amendment but who really needs to buy a semi-automatic weapon? Is it just a matter of "my gun is bigger and badder than your gun"??

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   tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

   We have "gun control" from background checks on most purchases to tight licensing of sellers to permits in many places to own one.
   Conversely, gun control doesn't keep criminals from killing people with knives or illegally acquired guns. And gun control doesn't prevent Muslim terrorists like the Boston marathon bombers and Brussels bombers from killing people, nor did UK's strict gun control prevent a British soldier being beheaded in the street or a French policeman stabbed in his home by a Muslim last week.
   The reason the Orlando shooter and San Bernadino shooters shot people was not guns - it was fundamentalist Islam. And blaming the guns is like blaming the pipe you are being beaten with instead of the person wielding it.

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   Cissy1946posted 7 years ago

   I'm not a fan of guns. In fact I'd like to see all of them melted down to nothing and never be manufactured again. However, I'm not a fan of gun control either. My opinion of guns is just that, my opinion. I choose not to have anything to do with them and that's my choice. And for the present, we still have a degree of choice in this country.
   If that's not enough, look at history and tell me when government control of any kind has EVER worked anywhere.

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      Jack Burtonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A world without guns, eh. Also a world where women, the young, the old, and the weak were subject to being at the mercy of the strong and the one who could best swing a sword. Sorry, that is not the world I want for my daughters and granddaughters.

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      Sandi Kroegerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Cecelia. I agree... governmental control rarely works.
      And just as an additional comment to Jack... I never said anything about a world "without guns".

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      Jack Burtonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You must have me confused with another poster. I never said you said anything about a "world without guns."  Do you so easily get mixed up about your patients and their care? Please let me never be in your hospital.

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   Jack Burtonposted 7 years ago

   Good thing we have a "Bill of Rights" instead of a "Bill of what SandI Thinks People Need." You have no clue as to what a "semi-automatic weapon" is, do you? In fact, you actually sound like a five year old on her first tricycle trying to give advice about how to solve Chicago's rush hour traffic problem. Do us the courtesy of at least clearing up your ignorance before subjecting the world to your inane questions.

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      Sandi Kroegerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Jack! I actually know quite a bit about the 2nd amendment, the NRA, and gun control & to answer Brad's question people on the "no fly" list cannot buy guns but the Orlando shooter was dropped off the no fly list. I was simply asking for vi

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      Jack Burtonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      My 80 year old neighbor claims to know a lot about the unicorns she says eats her roses every night. Claiming knowledge and having knowledge are quite different. But at lease you rightfully didn't claim to have any actual knowledge about firearms.

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years ago

   We already have more than Some, and the problem is that we need to actually enforce them. The recent Orlando shooter could have been prevented by the FBI and Homeland Security if they would have shared information about him. What does it take to monitor gun purchase background checks. Something like we already do for the No Fly List.
   
   Do we even know, if a person on the No Fly list can purchase a gun.
   Also, the Orlando attack could have the same or worse results if the shooter just used 2 Glock 17 handguns. He already had one on him.
   
   Most of the gun deaths in this country are suicides. Is preventing them from killing themselves going to happen because they can't get guns.
   A substantial number of the other gun deaths are attributed to gangs and criminal activity.
   
   The rifle as well as the gun control is a red herring that prevents going after the do we stop the people that want to be killed or kill us?
   
   Way less than 1% of the gun owners use their weapons illegally. Yet, like flying today the other 99% have to pay for them.
   
   The TSA is far from doing much more than making air travel very inconvenient. The airports, airport personnel, and airlines are the weak link. They already have the keys to the castle. Right now a gunmen or a bomber can take out hundreds and thousands of people that are queued up before the security check.
   
   We need to focus on the person and not their instrument of death and carnage.
   
   When a person is convicted of murder from a car accident where they were driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, the PERSON is the focus. No one says we need car control. Neither cars, nor guns are sold to consumers for the purpose of killing humans. Yet, they are involved in many deaths.  But, it was caused by the Person.
   
   In the case, of a death caused by an accident while the defendant was under the influence. The law assumes intent to kill, even when there wasn't any such real intent by the defendant.
   
   This is a change in criminal law where Murder is an Intentional crime. That is Intent is a major element that has to be proved in order to convict for first degree murder.
   
   The point is that the law focused on the person, and what they done with the instrument that caused the homicide.
   
   Why should gun deaths also not focus on the person?
   Prohibition didn't stop alcohol consumption, and neither will gun control stop bad people from getting and using guns. Drugs are illegal does that mean we don't have a drug problem in the US?

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