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jackclee lmposted 5 years ago
Just saw this report on President Obama giving a rally speech in Las Vegas...
As it turned out, the video and sound does not match the arena.
The total dishonesty of the media is shocking.
Most Americans don’t even know what is going on, how they are being manipulated, and the news perverted...
And they complaint about being labeled “fake news”.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Here is the article-
  https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 … -the-ruse/
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  Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  The self imploding of the Obama Legacy is actually fun to watch , and more so his message ! Which in effect means the alt - liberal message , which in effect means democratic message .
  
  I am reminded of Jim Acosta saying the Trump rallies were" too loud " and wanted them turned down so that HE and CNN could be heard ?
  
  Oh the Beauty !
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  IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  "There’s almost no-one there."
  
  I agree.
  
  PBS News Hour
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont … EkOA3_y1Dc
  
  C-SPAN
  
  https://www.c-span.org/video/?453252-1/ … -democrats
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  That’s the thing, isn’t it. Unless you’re there in person you’re relying on a source to provide you with the pictures/videos. You can only use your eyes to view what those sources give you. So yeah, sources are kinda important afterall....
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Just think, the media has portrayed Trump as this monster, racist,...masogynist...
  They were OK with him, before he ran for President. He was on TV with a popular show, he was cameo featured in Home Alone and other movies on location in NYC. He was invited to all the big Democratic donor parties and reception, Hillary and Bill was at his wedding...
  
  What changed?
  
  How can people believe all the lies about Trump when he has been in the public eye most of his adult life.
  
  Don’t get me wrong, he is no boy scout but he is no monster either.
  
  He ran for president to MAGA. Why is that a bad thing in the eye of the media?
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  IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  You could say all of that about Bill Cosby, too. They’re okay until they’re not. Having been a popular celebrity in the past doesn’t mean they’re incapable of saying/doing things that piss people off and make them unlikeable.
  
  I don’t believe any lies about Trump. I use my own eyes and ears to process what he says and does myself and that’s enough for me. You need to get it out of your head that the only possible reason someone could not like Trump is because they’re being brainwashed by the media.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  No, that is not what I am saying.
  I understand Trump is unlikable. He is doing it by design.
  He figured out how to beat the media at their own game,
  He say something outrageous to distract them.
  Meanwhile he is happy doing the thing he wants to do...make America great again.
  The media focus on what he say but do not give him credit for what he actially does.
  
  With President Obama, it is just the opposite. They love him and love his speeches... the thrill up the leg and all...
  Yet, he has done so little and instead divided our country and corrupted our justice department, and the IRS. All with the support of the media that just can’t get enough of him.
  Let this be a lesson for you.
  
  Don’t focus on what a person say...
  Only judge someone by what he actually does.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Nah, I don’t believe people should get a free pass to say things without consequences. To me what a person says reflects on them just as much as what they do. “Actions speak louder than words” only applies when the words are in direct conflict with one’s actions, it’s not an excuse to say whatever you want and then pretend it doesn’t matter.
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  hard sunposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  LOL..geesh.
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  PhoenixVposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Cnn is the worst. Cnn is very fake news. According to sources.
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Aime Fposted 5 years ago
Ah yes, everyone’s favourite objective news source... theconservativetreehouse.com
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Right, with an anonymous owner. Note the "private" contact information at the top of the site's domain registration.
  
  https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name= … ehouse.com
  
  Talk about propaganda!
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  What propaganda? The event is captured on video. The news reported something that it was not. On the other hand, Trump’s rally is 10 times larger and the media ignore it for the most part.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Oh please. Neither video is dated. And the first video has a Cspan logo while the second does not, nor does it have any source onit.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  When are you going to get it? We are dealing with a very dishonest and biased media. Much worst than anyone suspected. They will do anything, including creating false stories, to attack Trump and support their democratic candidates.
  You can lead a horse to water...but you can’t make it drink...
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Does the website with the videos have an anonymous owner?
  
  Does either video have the original date?
  
  Does the first video have a Cspan logo while the other has no source on it?
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Use your head and stop focusing on the source. It is high time all of us focus on the media who is distorting reality rather than reporting on it.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Okay. So what is it exactly that I’m supposed to be outraged by in this article?
  
  The two clips aren’t comparing the same part of the speech and are from different perspectives, so where’s the supposed descrepancy?
  
  Also, lol @ the tweet: “Anyway this angle doesn’t seem to be playing on TV, wonder why.” .....maybe because it’s an angle of the back of everyone’s heads? Really not that controversial.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  The question you should ask is how many people do you think is attending this event? The media wants you to think it was a very popular event with many more people in the audience. Guess how many are actually in the audience?
  
  Contrary that with one of Trump’s rally.
  There were 100,000 that came out in the latest Texas rally. Did your media report that?
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  The real question is why are you posting fake news from an anonymous website?
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  hard sunposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Ding Ding...his links were proven to be absolutely false and he still attempts to lecture us all about the truth and the value of seeking it...it literally is insane.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I would enjoy these debates more if some conservatives would take part who are better informed. I feel very alone.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  So you are afraid to debate me?
  Better informed? From what? The Lying NYT? Or NPR or Steven Colbert?
  
  Gime a break.
  You can speak to issues with anyone.
  You cannot win in the arena of ideas.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Conservatives are winning...
  Just published another article -
  
  “hubpages.com/literature/Conservatives-Are-Finally-Wining-in-the-Arena-of-Ideas”
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  After all of these years of debating many people on here, you seriously think I'm afraid to debate you?
  
  Sorry, I'm not. There is nothing to debate with someone who posts fake news from an anonymous website other than why he keeps doing it.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  You have yet to publish any position papers. It is hard to debate someone who offers no opinions. Just repeat talking points from the media is not a debate. In order to debate, you actially have to understand the issues and take a position and defend those positions with facts and results.
  What you do here on Hubpages is not debate. Not even close.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I offered an opinion about your fake news post from an anonymous website.
  
  Why am I required to publish position papers on HP? That's a strange demand.
  
  You still didn't answer my questions.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  It is not a demand. You can do whatever you want. You are an adult.
  If you want to debate, I am available. It helps if you have some written principles...
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Meaning we should believe only The Conservative Treehouse with its anonymous owner because it is objective and accurate?
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  No, meaning you should believe your own eye and ear instead of what the media tell you or show you. They are not to be trusted...
  repeat THEY ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Promisem, just like they’ve been lying to you about conservatives. How many conservatives do you know? What are they like? What do they want for our country? What have you been told about them?
  
  I am a conservative and proud of it. I have been publishing here for 8 years. My position on issues are clear as night and day. Do I sound like the conservative the media is presenting to the American public?
  yes or no?
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Yes.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Yes.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  In what ways? Please explain. I am curious. You seem to think you know me well. Let’s see how well you really know a conservative.
  
  I can take you on point by point. Any issue you want to start. Remember, we are discussing what the media portray a conservative to be as oppose a real live conservative like me.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I know you publish fake news from an anonymous site like the one above and use other fake news sites to support claims that are easily proven false.
  
  We have been down this road many times, and you still insist on publishing propaganda that is harmful to the country. You also try to change the subject when caught, like now.
  
  More to my point, you did not answer my questions:
  
  1. Does the website with the videos have an anonymous owner?
  
  2. Does either video have the original date?
  
  3. Does the first video have a Cspan logo while the other has no source on it?
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I rather believe an anonymous source that speak the truth than watch cnn or msnbc spew lies after lies and call themselves a news organization.
  One of us is being lied to and it is not me my friend.
  
  That is our whole problem. We have a generations of liberals who are brought up to believe everything they see on cnn and read in th NYT is gospel. Well, I hate to break your bubble, they are all BIASED.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe the problem is that people from both sides only accept their own perspectives as valid and blame “the whole problem” on each other rather than working together to figure out how to solve it.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly. Much of it is the result of certain troublemakers -- such as Russians and political extremists -- who keep inflaming those divisions.
  
  And the mindless eat it up to suit their own biases.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  There is no Russian collusion .Mueller has been investigating for nearly two year.
  Even the Obama administration did not believe it when they thought Hillary would win in a landslide.
  
  The media is the one reporting on this day in day out.
  
  Whether you believe it our not, it is your call. The main stream media has been tipping the scale for a long time.
  They have been exposed and in a bad way by Trump.
  The TDS is driving some of them over a cliff.
  They are taking a lot of innocent bystanders with them.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  But you’re missing the part where your sources are biased in the other direction, it just doesn’t upset you because it fits with your own bias.
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  Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Come on Aime , do us all a favor and actually watch ALL news media sources with an open mind .............Not a indoctrinated one.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  That’s good advice but kind of hilarious coming from you.
  
  I realize you think it’s impossible for anyone to think differently than you without being “indoctrinated” but it’s possible and it happens all the time.
  
  There are plenty of people from both sides who eat up whatever their sources say without question because it fits with a narrative that appeals to them. But there are also plenty of people from both sides who are capable of critical thinking and form opinions based on that - just because they aren’t the same opinions doesn’t mean they haven’t been carefully considered.
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  Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I watch , read and scan dozens of news media sources daily ,you match that ? AND THEN I determine who is Crayola coloring their news to suit some agenda. Try that sometime .............
  
  In fact try that for decades and not a year or so ......
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  I don’t doubt that you read dozens of news sources. I doubt that you do it with an open mind. Because I’ve been around here for a while and I’ve never seen you have an open mind about anything.
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  Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  If an open mind is as obviously brainwashed as that which is displayed by those of your age group ?
  
  I'll pass.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Are you familiar with the term “ageism”...?
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  Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Oh Aime, Aime , Aime ..............
  
  We all have hope for you ........
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  That is a cop out. I hate the equivalency argument. Just because one side does it, the other side must do it also?
  Not in my case. I am conservative and state it plainly.
  I am also fair and consistent. I call it as I see it.
  The same applies to my position on Trump.
  When he does good, I praise him. When he mess up, I hold him accountable. The media on the other hand does not.
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  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  No... it’s not about equivalency, it’s about reality. If your ‘conservativetreehouse’ is what you consider to be a reliable source then your sources are biased.
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  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  And you still didn't answer my questions.
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  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  What question do you want me to answer?
  It doesn’t matter to me.
  Do you get it?
  What matters to you may not matter to someone else or me?
  It is like asking someone do they like vanilla or strawberry icecream?
  
  What matters to me is where our country is headed?
  Our current divide is a creation of the media.
  They want to sell newspapers and clicks...
  They are not doing their job, which is to keep an eye on our elected officials. They are what is suppose to keep our government honest. Our democracy survival depends on a free and independent press. Not yellow jounalism that sides with one party against the other.
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Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago
OP. At this point the only reason the left cries foul when we talk of presence of media bias is simply because the media and the left are partners in all the lying .

Why would the left "shoot themselves in the foot " ?
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  PhoenixVposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  Amen. We know the left is not going to bite the hand thats feeding them. Itsa media meal ticket. A gravy train from Twitter to Goofle - CBS to PBR
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Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago
Great ........................What ? A liberal challenging the right to use only honest news media ?

Now That is Hilarious !
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Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago
Jacklee , What do you think ? It sounds very much like a major desperation coming from the left after what .....a hundred or more obstruction / impeachment issues failed by the party of Trump naysayers ?

The left has failed miserably , now they attack personalities here in the place of an uncaring Trump ?
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Aime Fposted 5 years ago
The lack of self-awareness among grown men who should know better is astounding.
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